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using slug pellets on veg patch?
what are peoples thoughts on using slug pellets on vegetable patches. I have
just started to plant out on mine and am not sure whether to use them on the soil or not. reading the instructions it says not to get them in between leaves. I am a little concerned when they get wet and dissolve into the soil? Paul. |
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using slug pellets on veg patch?
I use "nemoslug" on mine (biological control).
-- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) |
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H Ryder wrote:
I use "nemoslug" on mine (biological control). -- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) A rich man, probably sells his snails to the restaurants. :-) -- Please do not reply to this Email address, as all Emails are deleted before opened. |
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using slug pellets on veg patch?
"H Ryder" wrote I use "nemoslug" on mine (biological control). Do you find it works? It didn't when we used it on our potato bed and it makes what's left even more expensive which is why we concentrate on slug resistant varieties now. (Kestral, Spey, Romano) -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
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using slug pellets on veg patch?
Do you find it works?
haven't actually tried it here this year yet but it certainly worked previously on my heavy, sodden clay in Cheshire. I was under the impression that slug pellets left poisonous slug remains which killed birds and frogs etc which I wanted to avoid so, after trying and giving up on all the various "safe to other wildlife barrier" methods, I tried nemoslug and found it worked well, even when applied at slightly less than the recommended rate. I also found that it seemed to last longer than 6 weeks. -- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) |
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H Ryder wrote: Do you find it works? haven't actually tried it here this year yet but it certainly worked previously on my heavy, sodden clay in Cheshire. I was under the impression that slug pellets left poisonous slug remains which killed birds and frogs etc which I wanted to avoid so, after trying and giving up on all the various "safe to other wildlife barrier" methods, I tried nemoslug and found it worked well, even when applied at slightly less than the recommended rate. I also found that it seemed to last longer than 6 weeks. I'm waiting for my nematodes (megatoads as my son call them) to arrive. I thought it only worked on baby slugs not the adult ones?! Also there's two applications and the Organic Catalogue will dispatch the first lots and 6 weeks later the second lots so that I don't use it all at once. I thought that was really considerate of them ) I also thought some slug pellets are only ferrous phosphate and that it breaks down to iron and phosphate nutrients in the soil?! Are they not?! |
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La Puce wrote: H Ryder wrote: Do you find it works? haven't actually tried it here this year yet but it certainly worked previously on my heavy, sodden clay in Cheshire. I was under the impression that slug pellets left poisonous slug remains which killed birds and frogs etc which I wanted to avoid so, after trying and giving up on all the various "safe to other wildlife barrier" methods, I tried nemoslug and found it worked well, even when applied at slightly less than the recommended rate. I also found that it seemed to last longer than 6 weeks. I'm waiting for my nematodes (megatoads as my son call them) to arrive. I thought it only worked on baby slugs not the adult ones?! Also there's two applications and the Organic Catalogue will dispatch the first lots and 6 weeks later the second lots so that I don't use it all at once. I thought that was really considerate of them ) I also thought some slug pellets are only ferrous phosphate and that it breaks down to iron and phosphate nutrients in the soil?! Are they not?! I use aluminium sulphate ones and you can get ferrous phosphate. These work for me and are hopefully fairly harmless but I still use them in small amounts and not near vegetables. The blue ones are metaldehyde and possibly much more toxic but I do not actually know. I do not use them anyway. Des in slug ridden Dublin |
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wrote in message ups.com... La Puce wrote: H Ryder wrote: Do you find it works? haven't actually tried it here this year yet but it certainly worked previously on my heavy, sodden clay in Cheshire. I was under the impression that slug pellets left poisonous slug remains which killed birds and frogs etc which I wanted to avoid so, after trying and giving up on all the various "safe to other wildlife barrier" methods, I tried nemoslug and found it worked well, even when applied at slightly less than the recommended rate. I also found that it seemed to last longer than 6 weeks. I'm waiting for my nematodes (megatoads as my son call them) to arrive. I thought it only worked on baby slugs not the adult ones?! Also there's two applications and the Organic Catalogue will dispatch the first lots and 6 weeks later the second lots so that I don't use it all at once. I thought that was really considerate of them ) I also thought some slug pellets are only ferrous phosphate and that it breaks down to iron and phosphate nutrients in the soil?! Are they not?! I use aluminium sulphate ones and you can get ferrous phosphate. These work for me and are hopefully fairly harmless but I still use them in small amounts and not near vegetables. The blue ones are metaldehyde and possibly much more toxic but I do not actually know. I do not use them anyway. Des in slug ridden Dublin I am having a crack with the Nematode things this year but AFAIK they only work on slugs and not snails. The Ferrous phosphate stuff is fairly harmless and is used medicinally for folk with iron deficiency. Aluminium sulphate. I don't know about the cumulative effects of aluminium in the soil /veg. The dreaded blue pellet things are, as you say, metaldehyde. I thought the main objection to these was that the dead slugs get eaten by other birds/animals and get ill/dead. Here is the other side of the argument http://www.gardenseeker.com/slug_pellets.htm |
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Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: wrote in message ups.com... La Puce wrote: H Ryder wrote: Do you find it works? haven't actually tried it here this year yet but it certainly worked previously on my heavy, sodden clay in Cheshire. I was under the impression that slug pellets left poisonous slug remains which killed birds and frogs etc which I wanted to avoid so, after trying and giving up on all the various "safe to other wildlife barrier" methods, I tried nemoslug and found it worked well, even when applied at slightly less than the recommended rate. I also found that it seemed to last longer than 6 weeks. I'm waiting for my nematodes (megatoads as my son call them) to arrive. I thought it only worked on baby slugs not the adult ones?! Also there's two applications and the Organic Catalogue will dispatch the first lots and 6 weeks later the second lots so that I don't use it all at once. I thought that was really considerate of them ) I also thought some slug pellets are only ferrous phosphate and that it breaks down to iron and phosphate nutrients in the soil?! Are they not?! I use aluminium sulphate ones and you can get ferrous phosphate. These work for me and are hopefully fairly harmless but I still use them in small amounts and not near vegetables. The blue ones are metaldehyde and possibly much more toxic but I do not actually know. I do not use them anyway. Des in slug ridden Dublin I am having a crack with the Nematode things this year but AFAIK they only work on slugs and not snails. The Ferrous phosphate stuff is fairly harmless and is used medicinally for folk with iron deficiency. Aluminium sulphate. I don't know about the cumulative effects of aluminium in the soil /veg. The dreaded blue pellet things are, as you say, metaldehyde. I thought the main objection to these was that the dead slugs get eaten by other birds/animals and get ill/dead. Here is the other side of the argument http://www.gardenseeker.com/slug_pellets.htm I am still wary of these pellets. Everything on that site was worded so carefully that it reminded me of political spin. They could be right but I would like to see independant work. They quote one hedgehog who ate lots and was grand afterwards which does not fill me with any confidence. The alu effects on soil, I am wary of and that is why I use very little and only for me cardiocrinums and a few other odds and ends. I woul like to try the ferrous stuff since, as you point out, it is likely to be harmless. For the greenhouse, I am currently using beer traps and orange skins. I left it too late to use mini-cloches as me tomatoes are now too big to fit. |
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using slug pellets on veg patch?
Much of the soil is aluminium-in clay etc. It is the most abundant metal in
the earths crust(8.1%) Above pH 5 it will be quickly weathered into the soil, effectively becoming a mineral constiuent of the soil. It becomes progressively more soluble at lower pHs where it becomes a toxic constitiuent of acid rain-soluble aluminium amongst other things deposits aluminium hydroxide on the gills of fishes and was suspected of causing damage to the nervous system. Aluminium at pH 3 to 4 is sprayed all over the place in antiperspirant sprays. I guess aluminium sulphate (pH around 4) coalgulates the slime layer on slugs. regards David T wrote in message oups.com... Rupert (W.Yorkshire) wrote: wrote in message ups.com... La Puce wrote: H Ryder wrote: Do you find it works? haven't actually tried it here this year yet but it certainly worked previously on my heavy, sodden clay in Cheshire. I was under the impression that slug pellets left poisonous slug remains which killed birds and frogs etc which I wanted to avoid so, after trying and giving up on all the various "safe to other wildlife barrier" methods, I tried nemoslug and found it worked well, even when applied at slightly less than the recommended rate. I also found that it seemed to last longer than 6 weeks. I'm waiting for my nematodes (megatoads as my son call them) to arrive. I thought it only worked on baby slugs not the adult ones?! Also there's two applications and the Organic Catalogue will dispatch the first lots and 6 weeks later the second lots so that I don't use it all at once. I thought that was really considerate of them ) I also thought some slug pellets are only ferrous phosphate and that it breaks down to iron and phosphate nutrients in the soil?! Are they not?! I use aluminium sulphate ones and you can get ferrous phosphate. These work for me and are hopefully fairly harmless but I still use them in small amounts and not near vegetables. The blue ones are metaldehyde and possibly much more toxic but I do not actually know. I do not use them anyway. Des in slug ridden Dublin I am having a crack with the Nematode things this year but AFAIK they only work on slugs and not snails. The Ferrous phosphate stuff is fairly harmless and is used medicinally for folk with iron deficiency. Aluminium sulphate. I don't know about the cumulative effects of aluminium in the soil /veg. The dreaded blue pellet things are, as you say, metaldehyde. I thought the main objection to these was that the dead slugs get eaten by other birds/animals and get ill/dead. Here is the other side of the argument http://www.gardenseeker.com/slug_pellets.htm I am still wary of these pellets. Everything on that site was worded so carefully that it reminded me of political spin. They could be right but I would like to see independant work. They quote one hedgehog who ate lots and was grand afterwards which does not fill me with any confidence. The alu effects on soil, I am wary of and that is why I use very little and only for me cardiocrinums and a few other odds and ends. I woul like to try the ferrous stuff since, as you point out, it is likely to be harmless. For the greenhouse, I am currently using beer traps and orange skins. I left it too late to use mini-cloches as me tomatoes are now too big to fit. |
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