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Declan Murphy 01-05-2006 05:01 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 
(Apologies for the crosspost)

Would some kind soul identify this flowering tree for me please? It is
about 45 centimetres high, and I've inherited it from the previous
owner of the garden. The stem is only about 15mm thick at the base, so
I'm assuming it was planted early last year or the year before. Thought
it may be dead, but it began flowering about 10 days ago.

http://www.declan.tv/images/what_kin...ee_is_this.jpg

(image is 186KB)

Regards Declan,
Botanically challenged,
Okazaki, Japan


gaijin-in-japan 01-05-2006 05:23 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 
Not a clue. But it's purty.

I learned yesterday that the trees lining the streets of Kobe that have
big leaves are called Tulip trees.


[email protected] 01-05-2006 06:36 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 
I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.

JoAnn


Declan Murphy 01-05-2006 09:55 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 
wrote:
I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.


If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
feet in height :-(

The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...


Nick Maclaren 01-05-2006 10:15 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 

In article .com, "Declan Murphy" writes:
| wrote:
| I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.
|
| If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
| feet in height :-(
|
| The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...

I would be extremely surprised if it were a cherry; almost everything
about it looks wrong for that. It would help if you could show close-ups
of a single flower (front and back) and a flower cluster, and describe
its leaves and flowers.

Key questions about its flowers are the numbers of pistils, stamens,
petals and sepals (even roughly).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 01-05-2006 10:29 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 

"Declan Murphy" wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.


If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
feet in height :-(

The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...

Panic not. It has already had the main stem cut back, hence the large number
of laterals.



Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 01-05-2006 10:35 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article .com,
"Declan Murphy" writes:
| wrote:
| I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.
|
| If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
| feet in height :-(
|
| The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...

I would be extremely surprised if it were a cherry; almost everything
about it looks wrong for that. It would help if you could show close-ups
of a single flower (front and back) and a flower cluster, and describe
its leaves and flowers.

Key questions about its flowers are the numbers of pistils, stamens,
petals and sepals (even roughly).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Nick it does enlarge sufficiently to see the "cherry like" bark and much
more detail of the flowers. It looks like one of those graft type things
that has been buggad around with.
Perhaps a Daphne on a pear:-)



Nick Maclaren 01-05-2006 10:51 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 

In article ,
Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" writes:
|
| Nick it does enlarge sufficiently to see the "cherry like" bark and much
| more detail of the flowers. It looks like one of those graft type things
| that has been buggad around with.
| Perhaps a Daphne on a pear:-)

The bark doesn't look very cherry-like to me - it was the thing that made
me think that it WASN'T a cherry - and I can't see any detail on the
flowers.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Declan Murphy 01-05-2006 10:59 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article .com, "Declan Murphy" writes:
| wrote:
| I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.
|
| If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
| feet in height :-(
|
| The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...

I would be extremely surprised if it were a cherry; almost everything
about it looks wrong for that. It would help if you could show close-ups
of a single flower (front and back) and a flower cluster, and describe
its leaves and flowers.


The photo in the URL listed in the first post was resized. The original
image (sorry about the 1453KB size) shows some of the flowers from the
rear and side. There are no leaves as yet.
http://www.declan.tv/images/what_kin...er_version.jpg
It is already dark over here in Japan so I won't be able to take close
ups until tomorrow morning.

Key questions about its flowers are the numbers of pistils, stamens,
petals and sepals (even roughly).


Of that I understand the words key, questions, flowers, petals and
roughly :-)

Regards Declan,
Okazaki, Japan


Nick Maclaren 01-05-2006 11:19 AM

What kind of tree is this?
 

In article . com,
"Declan Murphy" writes:
|
| The photo in the URL listed in the first post was resized. The original
| image (sorry about the 1453KB size) shows some of the flowers from the
| rear and side. There are no leaves as yet.
| http://www.declan.tv/images/what_kin...er_version.jpg
| It is already dark over here in Japan so I won't be able to take close
| ups until tomorrow morning.

That helps. I am pretty sure that it is NOT a cherry, and suspect that
it may be a paeony. If so, the leaves will tell you.

| Key questions about its flowers are the numbers of pistils, stamens,
| petals and sepals (even roughly).
|
| Of that I understand the words key, questions, flowers, petals and
| roughly :-)

No matter. The sepals are the small flaps immediately behind the petals
that you can see on the expanded picture; it would help to know exactly
how many sepals and petals there are.

Also, check if the stems have pith - the picture looks as if there is
a slight hollow core - if so, it is NOT a cherry.

Incidentally, though I am NOT certain, it looks as if it has been pruned
to shape after flowering. Check before doing that.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

[email protected] 01-05-2006 02:57 PM

What kind of tree is this?
 

Declan Murphy wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article .com, "Declan Murphy" writes:
| wrote:
| I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.
|
| If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
| feet in height :-(
|
| The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...

I would be extremely surprised if it were a cherry; almost everything
about it looks wrong for that. It would help if you could show close-ups
of a single flower (front and back) and a flower cluster, and describe
its leaves and flowers.


The photo in the URL listed in the first post was resized. The original
image (sorry about the 1453KB size) shows some of the flowers from the
rear and side. There are no leaves as yet.
http://www.declan.tv/images/what_kin...er_version.jpg
It is already dark over here in Japan so I won't be able to take close
ups until tomorrow morning.

Key questions about its flowers are the numbers of pistils, stamens,
petals and sepals (even roughly).


Of that I understand the words key, questions, flowers, petals and
roughly :-)

Regards Declan,
Okazaki, Japan



wait a second pal; did you say Japan?
You might have warned us that you were not in Limerick or Milton Keynes
:-)


Declan Murphy 01-05-2006 03:48 PM

What kind of tree is this?
 
wrote:
Declan Murphy wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:

snip
Key questions about its flowers are the numbers of pistils, stamens,
petals and sepals (even roughly).


Of that I understand the words key, questions, flowers, petals and
roughly :-)

Regards Declan,
Okazaki, Japan


wait a second pal; did you say Japan?


Japan is an island country located on the eastern perimeter of Asia...
ohh sorry, that sounds like our local Mayor.
http://www.city.okazaki.aichi.jp/kur...lish/index.htm

(Is Shibata-kun smirking or constipated?)

You might have warned us that you were not in Limerick or Milton Keynes
:-)


I thought I did warn youse. In the original post if I recall correctly,
which I must admit I don't always manage to do. Milton Keynes? Now
there's nostalgia...

....anyway getting the post back onto a gardening theme, I noticed
browsing the interwebthingy today that the not quite great but very
fondly remembered John Kenneth Galbraith is now unfortunately
composting. RIP John. I may be nought but a brown thumbed economist,
but I sincerely hope they'll honour you by naming a town after him like
they did for that Milton Keynes fella :-)

I don't have such fond memories of Limerick.

There was a tree from Milton Keynes

oh maybe not.

Um

There was a tree in Okazaki
its flowers were not what they seemed
it grew in japan
but confused a young man
and from usenet* the info he gleaned





*well, a combination of usenet and the fj hierarchy, but "fj hierarchy"
has too many syllables and the cross post was necessary. Most of our
regular fj.life-in-japan posters wouldn't know a garden if it grew
under their tatami.


K 01-05-2006 09:04 PM

What kind of tree is this?
 
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes

"Declan Murphy" wrote in message
roups.com...
wrote:
I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.


If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
feet in height :-(

The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...

Panic not. It has already had the main stem cut back, hence the large number
of laterals.


Colour would be right for an ornamental peach. Petals all wrong for any
I've seen, though.

--
Kay

Stewart Robert Hinsley 01-05-2006 09:30 PM

What kind of tree is this?
 
In message , K
writes
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes

"Declan Murphy" wrote in message
groups.com...
wrote:
I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.

If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
feet in height :-(

The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...

Panic not. It has already had the main stem cut back, hence the large number
of laterals.


Colour would be right for an ornamental peach. Petals all wrong for any
I've seen, though.

It looks as if it's semi-double, which makes affiliation harder to
ascertain. FWIW, it reminds me of Prunus tenella, but AFAICT there isn't
a semi-double form of that species, and no doubt someone will point out
all the reasons why it can be that.

I wouldn't swear that it's a Prunus, but nothing else springs to mind.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 01-05-2006 09:57 PM

What kind of tree is this?
 

"K" wrote in message
...
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes

"Declan Murphy" wrote in message
groups.com...
wrote:
I think it's a cherry tree. Maybe a Kanzan variety. It's beautiful.

If it is then I've might have a problem - fast growing tree up to 30/40
feet in height :-(

The petals seem to be different to what I can find on the web though...

Panic not. It has already had the main stem cut back, hence the large
number
of laterals.


Colour would be right for an ornamental peach. Petals all wrong for any
I've seen, though.

--
Kay


Colour could be right for a flowering Almond. There are some that strut
their stuff before the leaves. The bark on the trunk should give someone a
clue
eventually. It's definitely not an Aquilegia:-)




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