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nettles and weeds in strawberry beds
I raised a query regarding nettles etc some weeks ago and the replies
were that there was not a selective weedkiller for this. Since then my husband bought, in France, Desherbant fraisers. At the time I said I would post with the composition, which is 157 grammes per litre of phenmediphame. I have used it and it worked. Can I but this in England under another name as I cannot find it here? -- Judith Lea |
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Judith Lea wrote: I raised a query regarding nettles etc some weeks ago and the replies were that there was not a selective weedkiller for this. Since then my husband bought, in France, Desherbant fraisers. At the time I said I would post with the composition, which is 157 grammes per litre of phenmediphame. I have used it and it worked. Can I but this in England under another name as I cannot find it here? I'm happy to say thank god nobody can find it!! Dersherbant Fraisiers are not recommended for small gardens but are for farmers. It has some serious ecological effects, being an herbecide, fungicide and insecticide in one. The bees, birds, aquatics and beneficials have absolutely no chance of survival. The product stays for years in the ground. You are effectively damaging the whole eco system of your garden when the nettles could have brought you beneficial insects such as lady birds and beautiful butterflies. |
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La Puce wrote: Judith Lea wrote: I raised a query regarding nettles etc some weeks ago and the replies were that there was not a selective weedkiller for this. Since then my husband bought, in France, Desherbant fraisers. At the time I said I would post with the composition, which is 157 grammes per litre of phenmediphame. I have used it and it worked. Can I but this in England under another name as I cannot find it here? I'm happy to say thank god nobody can find it!! Dersherbant Fraisiers are not recommended for small gardens but are for farmers. snip Surprising then to find it on a French site for French gardeners! "DESHERBANT fraisiers 157 g/l de phenmédiphame. Désherbant systémique des fraisiers, betteraves, bettes, épinards, endives. S'applique dès la levée des mauvaises herbes. Homologation : 6700288. Dose : 7 ml/l d'eau pour 10 m2. Disponibilité : dès octobre 2005" http://www.jardiniersdefrance.com/fr...amille_id=3101 -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
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Sacha writes Surprising then to find it on a French site for French gardeners! "DESHERBANT fraisiers 157 g/l de phenmédiphame. Désherbant systémique des fraisiers, betteraves, bettes, épinards, endives. S'applique dès la levée des mauvaises herbes. Homologation : 6700288. Dose : 7 ml/l d'eau pour 10 m2. Disponibilité : dès octobre 2005" http://www.jardiniersdefrance.com/fr...ts.asp?sousfam ille_id=3101 You are quite right Sacha, it is not for farmers use but small garden use hence it is sold in sachets of 5 per box, each sachet of 8ml makes up 1 litre which is then sprayed onto the foliage - not the surrounding plants and not the earth and I sprayed in February when bees and insects are not around in any great number. -- Judith Lea |
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nettles and weeds in strawberry beds
Judith Lea wrote: You are quite right Sacha, it is not for farmers use but small garden use hence it is sold in sachets of 5 per box, each sachet of 8ml makes up 1 litre which is then sprayed onto the foliage - not the surrounding plants and not the earth and I sprayed in February when bees and insects are not around in any great number. I didn't mean to offend Judith. The product is very much like the Roundup we get here (and in France too). It is coded with XF which means 'irreversible effects'. Note also that Fertiligene used to be called Betalane but had to change it's name because they put the word 'jardin' which was misleading and dangerous for the amateur gardeners. In Bretagne they have banned using it in agriculture because it has contaminated many rivers (in the News in 1999). Nonetheless phenmédiphame is dangerous. First you are meant to spray it when weeds starts hence in April not February. Second it's 'irritant pour les voies respiratoires' which means it irritates the respiratory system in mammals therefore humans too, it also 'entraine une sensibilisation par contact avec la peau' which means it is a skin irritant, it also advise to 'eviter les expositions repetees' which means not to use it repetitively and 'eviter toute exposition des femmes en debut de grossesse' which means dangerous for pregnant women. I'd immagine the list does go on but it's your garden and your life. However it's also my planet ) |
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nettles and weeds in strawberry beds
La Puce wrote: Judith Lea wrote: You are quite right Sacha, it is not for farmers use but small garden use hence it is sold in sachets of 5 per box, each sachet of 8ml makes up 1 litre which is then sprayed onto the foliage - not the surrounding plants and not the earth and I sprayed in February when bees and insects are not around in any great number. I didn't mean to offend Judith. The product is very much like the Roundup we get here (and in France too). It is coded with XF which means 'irreversible effects'. snip I think the point here is that, like all of us, Judith must choose what she uses in her garden. But to tell her that something is intended for agricultural use only is misleading when, quite clearly, it is not. And, with respect, it's not very useful to tell someone to enjoy the pretty butterflies when what they want to do is enjoy their strawberries, which was the object of Judith's exercise. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive! In her place, I would dig up the strawberries next year and move them to another plot in her garden and then deal with the nettles OR leave them for the wildlife. But only we know our own gardens and indeed, our own tastes and concerns as to how we look after them and how much space we can use for what. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
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Sacha wrote: I think the point here is that, like all of us, Judith must choose what she uses in her garden. But to tell her that something is intended for agricultural use only is misleading when, quite clearly, it is not. And, with respect, it's not very useful to tell someone to enjoy the pretty butterflies when what they want to do is enjoy their strawberries, which was the object of Judith's exercise. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive! In her place, I would dig up the strawberries next year and move them to another plot in her garden and then deal with the nettles OR leave them for the wildlife. But only we know our own gardens and indeed, our own tastes and concerns as to how we look after them and how much space we can use for what. I totally agree with you there and perhaps my concerns are for another discussion ) |
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