On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:46:04 +0100, Malcolm
wrote:


In article ,
writes
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:15:09 +0100, Malcolm
wrote:


In article , Martin
writes
On 18 Jun 2006 16:05:49 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:


In article ,
Martin writes:
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| | You tell me. You're the one that claimed that "They also allow the
| | shooting of wild and game birds on their reserves". You attempted to
| | convey the impression that it was on all their reserves. You
| | have only
| | been able to come up with two.
| |
| | I don't see anywhere where he attempted to convey that impression.
| | Two is two too many.
|
| No, it's far too few. What the conservation camp followers in this
| country need is a damn sight more knowledge of ecology and preparedness
| to live with nature, and a damn sight less bunny-cuddling and birdie-
| cooing.
|
| Outraged in Tunbridge Wells? :-)

Precisely. As a basis for planning, let alone legislation, ignorant
emotion is catastrophic - and that is what we have had for the past
half-century :-(

I agree with you.

There's a difference between control and shooting things for pleasure
for no good reason.

Providing shooting for rich gents in the name of control is not what
RSPB contributors have in mind when they make their donations.

The RSPB do not provide any shooting for rich gents, or anyone else,
whether in the name of control or for any other reason.


"In addition to this NGO conservation bodies such as the Wildlife
Trusts and RSPB have wildfowling tenants
on their reserves. Examples include Montrose Basin (Scottish Wildlife
Trust, Angus), Frampton Marsh
(RSPB, Lincolnshire), Ouse Washes (RSPB, Cambridgeshire), Tetney
Marshes (RSPB, Lincolnshire).
Locally, RSPB let sporting rights to Langstone & District Wildfowling
& Conservation Association
(L&DW&CA) at the Langstone Harbour RSPB reserve. Wardening at
Langstone Harbour is a co-operative
and joint venture between RSPB, Local Authority and L&DW&CA. In many
cases wildfowling clubs lease
sporting rights jointly with conservation bodies to allow for
cooperative and integrated management. Nearby
examples include Langstone & District Wildfowling & Conservation
Association’s joint Crown Estate leases
with the Hampshire Wildlife Trust and RSPB. In some cases wildfowling
clubs jointly own freehold with
conservation bodies – e.g. Fenla nd Wildfowlers Association jointly
own c. 250 acres of the Welney Reserve
(Ouse Washes) with the Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust (WWT)."


So what?

So the RSPB has shooting tenants on it reserves. "Locally, RSPB let
sporting rights to Langstone & District Wildfowling & Conservation
Association"

So you're a liar, Malcolm.

Winter foreshore shooting doesn't necessarily interfere with a
reserve that is important for summer breeding birds. And if a
wildfowling club will look after the winter shooting that prevents a
free-for-all and carry out wardening. An excellent arrangement.

Doesn't "protect" the birds that are shot.

The RSPB also shoot birds themselves.

And one only needs to look at the power stbehing the RSPB to see
they're into shooting up to their necks.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:04:50 +0100, Malcolm
wrote:


In article ,
writes

Remember this?

__________________

Malcolm Ogilvie aka Dr Thick is confused about his measure of
intelligence.

A Macmillan said; "Do you think you don't have limited intelligence?"

Dr Thick said: "What a contorted question. The answer is yes. What
about yourself?"

__________________

Of course. Compared with you, everyone has unlimited intelligence.


From your afterthought department :-))

Do you still think that men on the moon will be "native" because they
reached there by their own devices?

I can see your duff scientific advice to SNH will be fun :-))

Do they know that you tell people that don't share your opinions to
f*** off ?


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

On 18 Jun 2006 21:14:34 +0200, Chris Bacon
wrote:

Malcolm wrote:
[snip]

Malcom, and others. You have ruined uk.environment.conservation.

Malcolm and his supporters indulge in fake conservation and it is
something that needs to be exposed. You will notice that I posted the
same message on uk.e.c but that Malcolm preferred to respond here.

I don't ask for any responses; I only seek to inform people of the
facts. But I shall respond if attacked with silly rhetoric.


You
have not, apparently, responded to requests there to desist. Please
will you therefore take your "arguments" back there, and don't give
"Amgus" his kicks here. Thank you.

Although I wouldn't call it "kicks", I am quite happy to address the
arguments on uk.e.c but the problem is "they" don't have any arguments
and can only attack me as the messenger.

I think this thread was entirely on topic as most people feed birds in
their gardens and, in my view, should continue to do so.



Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:

Malcom, and others. You have ruined uk.environment.conservation.


Malcolm and his supporters indulge in fake conservation and it is
something that needs to be exposed. You will notice that I posted the
same message on uk.e.c but that Malcolm preferred to respond here.

I don't ask for any responses; I only seek to inform people of the
facts.

No you don't, this plainly shown by your replies.

What fools do, I can't help.

On 18 Jun 2006 22:56:23 +0200, Chris Bacon
wrote:

wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:

Malcom, and others. You have ruined uk.environment.conservation.


Malcolm and his supporters indulge in fake conservation and it is
something that needs to be exposed. You will notice that I posted the
same message on uk.e.c but that Malcolm preferred to respond here.

I don't ask for any responses; I only seek to inform people of the
facts.

No you don't, this plainly shown by your replies.

If you look at my original post it did not ask to be responded to; but
I respond in kind to those that seek to abuse me.


What fools do, I can't help.

Seems you're at it as well :-(

Seems you can't help yourself. If you get my meaning :-))


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk