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Vivek.M 24-06-2006 03:02 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
Hello, I got a whole bunch of seeds ( not very expensive; paid Rupees
120; that's USD 2.6 approxi. ). The seeds a Chrysanthimum,
Antirrhinum, Cockscomb, Candytuft,
Sunflower, Aster, Salvia, Larkspur and Hollyhock - 1 packet each.

I plan to plant them directly in bed's that are well dug up and well
aereated; I'll dig to maybe 1/2 a foot depth and keep the soil soft.
Temperature is between 17 and 32 but the sky is cloudy with monsoon
clouds and Chrysanthimum's don't like too much water. I'll keep the bed
sheltered but that will cut down on the light and the flowers i've got
need lots of light and sunshine.

So what should i do? Scrap the whole bed idea and plant them in plastic
1 litre milk packets?
I could then keep them on the roof of the house which gets maximum
sunlight. The sky is grey..
I'm a little late in planting, should have started in Feb..but this is
India and Bangalore does have sunny stretches..

I've also bought some veggies ( Pumpkin, Radish, Brinjal and Bell
Pepper ).

I'm planting it anyway but was wondering if i could salvage the
situation in some way ?


shazzbat 24-06-2006 03:53 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 

"Vivek.M" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello, I got a whole bunch of seeds ( not very expensive; paid Rupees
120; that's USD 2.6 approxi. ). The seeds a Chrysanthimum,
Antirrhinum, Cockscomb, Candytuft,
Sunflower, Aster, Salvia, Larkspur and Hollyhock - 1 packet each.

I plan to plant them directly in bed's that are well dug up and well
aereated; I'll dig to maybe 1/2 a foot depth and keep the soil soft.
Temperature is between 17 and 32 but the sky is cloudy with monsoon
clouds and Chrysanthimum's don't like too much water. I'll keep the bed
sheltered but that will cut down on the light and the flowers i've got
need lots of light and sunshine.

So what should i do? Scrap the whole bed idea and plant them in plastic
1 litre milk packets?
I could then keep them on the roof of the house which gets maximum
sunlight. The sky is grey..
I'm a little late in planting, should have started in Feb..but this is
India and Bangalore does have sunny stretches..

I've also bought some veggies ( Pumpkin, Radish, Brinjal and Bell
Pepper ).

I'm planting it anyway but was wondering if i could salvage the
situation in some way ?

Hi Vivek,

We welcome new URGlers around here, but I don't think many of us know much
about your growing conditions and seasons etc, particularly monsoons. We
don't have monsoon season here, although Wimbledon starts on Monday, so you
might think it was a monsoon by about Wednesday. :-)) Still, there probably
won't be any brits left in by then, so the rain won't matter much.

But I digress. As you say, you should have sown your seeds in Feb, is that
according to the instructions on the packet, and are they instructions for
India? One of the things which is very relevant to plant development is
daylight length, they can tell when the days are getting longer. We have
quite a large variation between summer and winter, right now it's light till
almost 10pm if it's been a sunny day, in winter it's dark by 4. A friend
told me that in Korea the variation is only about an hour, what is it like
in India?

I think you should try to get information from either the net or from books
specific to your climate and conditions. And talk to people locally whose
gardens you can see are doing well. If they're anything like British
gardeners they'll be glad to share their knowledge with you.

Not that we won't help when we can of course.

Steve




Vivek.M 24-06-2006 04:15 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
Hey Steve, Hello,

We welcome new URGlers around here, but I don't think many of us know much
about your growing conditions and seasons etc, particularly monsoons. We
don't have monsoon season here, although Wimbledon starts on Monday, so you
might think it was a monsoon by about Wednesday. :-)) Still, there probably
won't be any brits left in by then, so the rain won't matter much.

Well monsoons are very wet, with grey skys. Just a lot more rain -
grouchy, wet and drizzly weather.

But I digress. As you say, you should have sown your seeds in Feb, is that
according to the instructions on the packet, and are they instructions for
India? One of the things which is very relevant to plant development is
daylight length, they can tell when the days are getting longer.

Well, the packets don't have any instructions; none of the packets in
the shop did except for a pair of Indo-American hybrid seeds. I'm just
using the web to figure out stuff. H'mm never occurred to me that
day-light length's would matter so much! Wow ! 10 PM and it's sunny and
sets at 4 in winter ! Holy cow ! I see what you mean about gardening
being different in the UK !

We have
quite a large variation between summer and winter, right now it's light till
almost 10pm if it's been a sunny day, in winter it's dark by 4. A friend
told me that in Korea the variation is only about an hour, what is it like
in India?

Yeah, much the same..mornings are earlier now; 5.55 and it's already
light with birds chirping and wakeing me up! In winter it's around
6.20.

I think you should try to get information from either the net or from books
specific to your climate and conditions. And talk to people locally whose
gardens you can see are doing well. If they're anything like British
gardeners they'll be glad to share their knowledge with you.

Not that we won't help when we can of course.

Thanks Steve ! I see what you mean ! And with your cold winters..i've
no idea what winter really is :). I know it's cold and it snows *grin*
and you get frost-bite but it's a different mind set all-together. You
have to really work and plan to grow stuff and schedule everything just
right !


Vivek.M 24-06-2006 04:18 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
And Darn! that post should have gone to rec.gardens and
not.uk.rec.gardens..it's in USD..
I have rec.gardens and uk.rec.gardens next to each other in google
groups, hence the goof up!


K 24-06-2006 05:37 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
Vivek.M writes
Hello, I got a whole bunch of seeds ( not very expensive; paid Rupees
120; that's USD 2.6 approxi. ). The seeds a Chrysanthimum,
Antirrhinum, Cockscomb, Candytuft,
Sunflower, Aster, Salvia, Larkspur and Hollyhock - 1 packet each.

I plan to plant them directly in bed's that are well dug up and well
aereated; I'll dig to maybe 1/2 a foot depth and keep the soil soft.
Temperature is between 17 and 32 but the sky is cloudy with monsoon
clouds and Chrysanthimum's don't like too much water. I'll keep the bed
sheltered but that will cut down on the light and the flowers i've got
need lots of light and sunshine.


Can you erect a cover with clear plastic a few feet off the ground?
You'll get a lot more light than we do, so the impact of clear plastic
wouldn't be a problem.



--
Kay

Stewart Robert Hinsley 24-06-2006 07:04 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
In message .com,
Vivek.M writes
10 PM and it's sunny and sets at 4 in winter


He must be living in the south. On a clear day it's bright at 11 PM or
later at this time of year. (In the far north - Shetland - it never gets
dark. See "Simmer Dim".

http://www.shetlandtourism.com/pages/the_weather.htm
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

shazzbat 24-06-2006 08:18 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message .com,
Vivek.M writes
10 PM and it's sunny and sets at 4 in winter


He must be living in the south.


Yup. Just outside Bournemouth :-))

Steve



Vivek.M 25-06-2006 10:08 AM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:18:24 +0100, "shazzbat" wrote:
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message .com,
Vivek.M writes
10 PM and it's sunny and sets at 4 in winter


He must be living in the south.


Yup. Just outside Bournemouth :-))

Steve

bursts in to laughter I'm in Bangalore, India. I'm sorry, but this
particular post was accidental. I was using groups.google.com;
rec.gardening and uk.rec.gardening are next to each other..so i
bumbled and posted here when this post should have gone to rec.garden.

I've introduced myself to the group in "New urgler : Vivek.M - from
Bangalore, India." so you might want to check that out :). I'll behave
myself and mostly lurk so i hope it's okay with you guys and gals.

Vivek.M 25-06-2006 12:48 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:37:26 +0100, K wrote:
Can you erect a cover with clear plastic a few feet off the ground?
You'll get a lot more light than we do, so the impact of clear plastic
wouldn't be a problem.

Thanks K, I'll try that. It's just rained and we had been digging so
the soil is soft and has had a light shower. If i plant now and keep
the rain off for a bit, things should turn out okay.

K 25-06-2006 09:46 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
Vivek. M writes
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:37:26 +0100, K wrote:
Can you erect a cover with clear plastic a few feet off the ground?
You'll get a lot more light than we do, so the impact of clear plastic
wouldn't be a problem.

Thanks K, I'll try that. It's just rained and we had been digging so
the soil is soft and has had a light shower. If i plant now and keep
the rain off for a bit, things should turn out okay.


It's interesting to look at our different perspectives. On winter, lower
parts of my garden are distinctly soggy, so I have to make sure the
plants I grow are ones that don't mind being cold and wet. In summer,
all rain is Good. I don't have any problem with it being too dry, but
there are some areas of the garden where I can grow moisture loving
plants like primroses and some areas where they are unhappy.

One thing that isn't a problem ever is the amount of rain. Just
occasionally, we may get an inch of rain in a day, and we all ooh and
aah over it, but sheltering plants from the rain is not normally
something we would think of doing.
--
Kay

K 26-06-2006 06:47 PM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
Janet Baraclough writes
The message
from K contains these words:


One thing that isn't a problem ever is the amount of rain. Just
occasionally, we may get an inch of rain in a day, and we all ooh and
aah over it, but sheltering plants from the rain is not normally
something we would think of doing.


Rock plant enthusiasts/specialists often do, (with a sheet of glasss)
,usually in winter.

That's why I said 'normally'. Cacti similarly. And isn't peach tree curl
thought to be associated with getting rained on? But we wouldn't shelter
our radishes and french beans.
--
Kay

Janet Tweedy 30-06-2006 11:41 AM

Planting flowers in July? With dark clouds in the sky?
 
In article , Janet Baraclough
writes
The message
from K contains these words:


One thing that isn't a problem ever is the amount of rain. Just
occasionally, we may get an inch of rain in a day, and we all ooh and
aah over it, but sheltering plants from the rain is not normally
something we would think of doing.


Rock plant enthusiasts/specialists often do, (with a sheet of glasss)
,usually in winter.

Janet



And peaches should be in case of peach leaf curl.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


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