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Sally Thompson 07-07-2006 08:36 PM

Plant ID if possible
 
Earlier this year I sowed a packet of wildflower seeds from Mr Fothergill's.
The seed packet was marked Ox-Eye Daisy (leucanthemum vulgare). I had
originally intended to separate out the seed tray into clumps and plant the
clumps, but when they grew I had a trayful of two obviously different plants.
I have (with difficulty) separated them into pots of a few of a kind to a
pot, but I just don't know what the two varieties are.

I have posted a picture of each here and wonder if anyone can reassure me
that Image 1 is in fact a form of ox-eye daisy, because the leaves aren't
like the ones we already have, and can tell me what the second plant is?

http://www.sallysweb.co.uk/plants.html

(I haven't included the groundsel and grass, which were obvious and which I
removed early on!)




--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk


Stewart Robert Hinsley 07-07-2006 09:09 PM

Plant ID if possible
 
In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
Earlier this year I sowed a packet of wildflower seeds from Mr Fothergill's.
The seed packet was marked Ox-Eye Daisy (leucanthemum vulgare). I had
originally intended to separate out the seed tray into clumps and plant the
clumps, but when they grew I had a trayful of two obviously different plants.
I have (with difficulty) separated them into pots of a few of a kind to a
pot, but I just don't know what the two varieties are.

I have posted a picture of each here and wonder if anyone can reassure me
that Image 1 is in fact a form of ox-eye daisy, because the leaves aren't
like the ones we already have, and can tell me what the second plant is?


I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.

http://www.sallysweb.co.uk/plants.html

(I haven't included the groundsel and grass, which were obvious and which I
removed early on!)


--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Nick Maclaren 07-07-2006 09:20 PM

Plant ID if possible
 

In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley writes:
|
| I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
| be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.

Not to say a zillion less likely escapes. It looks dead like yarrow
to me, too, and that is a very common weed. It is apparently essential
for doing the I Ching properly, so some people grow it deliberately.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sally Thompson 07-07-2006 10:34 PM

Plant ID if possible
 
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:09:07 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote
(in article ):

In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
Earlier this year I sowed a packet of wildflower seeds from Mr Fothergill's.
The seed packet was marked Ox-Eye Daisy (leucanthemum vulgare). I had
originally intended to separate out the seed tray into clumps and plant the
clumps, but when they grew I had a trayful of two obviously different
plants.
I have (with difficulty) separated them into pots of a few of a kind to a
pot, but I just don't know what the two varieties are.

I have posted a picture of each here and wonder if anyone can reassure me
that Image 1 is in fact a form of ox-eye daisy, because the leaves aren't
like the ones we already have, and can tell me what the second plant is?


I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.

http://www.sallysweb.co.uk/plants.html




You are right, it does look exactly like Yarrow when I look at Google Images,
but since the seeds were meant to be "native grown", I suppose it is more
likely that someone has taken seeds from a Mayweed with a daisy-like flower
than a Yarrow with a very different flower - unless of course they also sell
Yarrow seeds, and have just mixed them up. I cannot find either on their web
site (nor the ox-eye daisy for that matter).




--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk


Sally Thompson 07-07-2006 10:38 PM

Plant ID if possible
 
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:20:25 +0100, Nick Maclaren wrote
(in article ):


In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley writes:

I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.


Not to say a zillion less likely escapes. It looks dead like yarrow
to me, too, and that is a very common weed. It is apparently essential
for doing the I Ching properly, so some people grow it deliberately.



Thanks for the reply - and see my response to Stewart Robert Hinsley. I'd
far rather have Yarrow than Mayweed (even without the I Ching g), but I
think we will continue to grow these two plants on separately and see what we
end up with - and I think I will tell Mr Fothergill's just so they know
(although it's only a packet of seed) because someone has been a bit
careless.




--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk


Stewart Robert Hinsley 07-07-2006 10:53 PM

Plant ID if possible
 
In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:09:07 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote
(in article ):

In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
Earlier this year I sowed a packet of wildflower seeds from Mr Fothergill's.
The seed packet was marked Ox-Eye Daisy (leucanthemum vulgare). I had
originally intended to separate out the seed tray into clumps and plant the
clumps, but when they grew I had a trayful of two obviously different
plants.
I have (with difficulty) separated them into pots of a few of a kind to a
pot, but I just don't know what the two varieties are.

I have posted a picture of each here and wonder if anyone can reassure me
that Image 1 is in fact a form of ox-eye daisy, because the leaves aren't
like the ones we already have, and can tell me what the second plant is?


I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.

http://www.sallysweb.co.uk/plants.html




You are right, it does look exactly like Yarrow when I look at Google Images,
but since the seeds were meant to be "native grown", I suppose it is more
likely that someone has taken seeds from a Mayweed with a daisy-like flower
than a Yarrow with a very different flower - unless of course they also sell
Yarrow seeds, and have just mixed them up. I cannot find either on their web
site (nor the ox-eye daisy for that matter).

Yarrow is native, and is also cultivated (typically the coloured
selections). In my experience it is commoner in the wild than the
mayweeds, but maybe I don't frequent the right habitats.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

K 08-07-2006 09:16 AM

Plant ID if possible
 
Sally Thompson writes
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:20:25 +0100, Nick Maclaren wrote
(in article ):


In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley writes:

I'd guess that the second is Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), but I can't
be sure that it's not one of the Mayweeds.


Not to say a zillion less likely escapes. It looks dead like yarrow
to me, too, and that is a very common weed. It is apparently essential
for doing the I Ching properly, so some people grow it deliberately.



Thanks for the reply - and see my response to Stewart Robert Hinsley. I'd
far rather have Yarrow than Mayweed (even without the I Ching g), but I
think we will continue to grow these two plants on separately and see what we
end up with - and I think I will tell Mr Fothergill's just so they know
(although it's only a packet of seed) because someone has been a bit
careless.

Both ox-eye daisy and yarrow are favourite slug fodder when young and
tender.




--
Kay


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