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David in Normandy 11-10-2006 08:39 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
I've bought a "Rosa Rugosa Exception" today, it has a number of large ripe
hips. Can these be stored and the hips split and the seeds planted in
Spring? I'd like to plant a hedgerow of them if I can, though I imagine
they'd need to be grown for a year or two in pots until they are big enough
to plant out. Will they come more or less true? Any tips for the storing and
planting of the seeds?
--
David
.... Email address on website http://www.avisoft.co.uk
.... Blog at http://dlts-french-adventures.blogspot.com/



Gary Woods 11-10-2006 09:02 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
"David in Normandy" wrote:

I've bought a "Rosa Rugosa Exception" today, it has a number of large ripe
hips. Can these be stored and the hips split and the seeds planted in
Spring?


IIRC, they like to be stratified. So open the hips now and plant the seeds
in pots and store outdoors until spring, when they should start growing.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Janet Baraclough 11-10-2006 10:00 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
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I've bought a "Rosa Rugosa Exception" today, it has a number of large ripe
hips. Can these be stored and the hips split and the seeds planted in
Spring? I'd like to plant a hedgerow of them if I can, though I imagine
they'd need to be grown for a year or two in pots until they are big enough
to plant out. Will they come more or less true? Any tips for the
storing and
planting of the seeds?


I hadn;t heard of that one so looked it up, very pretty. The double
ones are hybrids I think so you might not get true seedlings. Howver,
rugosa flower very young so you won't have to wait years to find out.

All the rugosas (IME) are extremely easy to root from late cuttings in
the open garden. You'll get plenty of new cutting material on the bush
next year and that would probably be the best way to get a uniform
hedge.

Janet

Janet Tweedy 12-10-2006 01:05 AM

Rosa Rugosa
 
In article , Janet Baraclough
writes

All the rugosas (IME) are extremely easy to root from late cuttings in
the open garden.


That's the way I'd go as well janet. Your Rosa glaucas that you sent me
a few years ago have produced 2 superb small standard trees. One in
particular is heavy with hips and a lovely bluey colour. Thanks again!

janet

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Janet Baraclough 12-10-2006 11:10 AM

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In article , Janet Baraclough
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All the rugosas (IME) are extremely easy to root from late cuttings in
the open garden.


That's the way I'd go as well janet. Your Rosa glaucas that you sent me
a few years ago have produced 2 superb small standard trees. One in
particular is heavy with hips and a lovely bluey colour. Thanks again!


This morning, I was just looking at the huge crop of hips on my
r.glauca this year!

Now, there's a rose that's very easy to grow from seed and always comes
true. (plant washed seeds now and leave the pot outdoors over winter).

Janet

David in Normandy 12-10-2006 11:15 AM

Rosa Rugosa
 
Thank you for the replies Gary and Janets.
I will try both methods. I've taken a small cutting off it for now and three
hips - my other half would't let me take more hips as they are "too pretty"
and she wants to see them on the bush! In retrospect, the rosa came from a
garden centre that sold lots of other rose varieties, so in principle the
hips could be crosses with absolutely anything! It will be interesting to
see what comes of those.
--
David
.... Email address on website http://www.avisoft.co.uk
.... Blog at http://dlts-french-adventures.blogspot.com/



Farm1 12-10-2006 12:13 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message

This morning, I was just looking at the huge crop of hips on my
r.glauca this year!


Do you make rose hip jelly with them?



Janet Baraclough 12-10-2006 01:08 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
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from "David in Normandy" contains these
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Thank you for the replies Gary and Janets.
I will try both methods. I've taken a small cutting off it for now and
three
hips - my other half would't let me take more hips as they are "too pretty"
and she wants to see them on the bush!


The gorgeous fat hips are a favourite with birds, soon she won't be
able to tell what pecked them.

Janet.

Janet Baraclough 12-10-2006 01:15 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
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from "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow contains these words:

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message


This morning, I was just looking at the huge crop of hips on my
r.glauca this year!


Do you make rose hip jelly with them?


I have made that, but not for many years! I've been thinking of
making rosehip syrup, though, using the wild rose hips on the hedgerows
(better for red colour than r glauca). Do you have a recipe?

Janet.

David in Normandy 12-10-2006 02:00 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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The message
from "David in Normandy" contains these
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Thank you for the replies Gary and Janets.
I will try both methods. I've taken a small cutting off it for now and
three
hips - my other half would't let me take more hips as they are "too
pretty"
and she wants to see them on the bush!


The gorgeous fat hips are a favourite with birds, soon she won't be
able to tell what pecked them.

Janet.


I wouldn't be at all surprised if tomorrow morning a pigeon ate the
remaining hips but spat-out the seeds into a nearby plantpot ;-)

Thinking about it, I wonder if black labradors eat them too? He eats
everything else, including wind-fall peaches. First dog we've had that goes
scrumping! He even eats the juicy black seeds that fall off the laurel
hedge, we keep telling him off, but he sneaks off and eats more, I would
have assumed the seeds were poisonous but he seems healthy enough.

David.



Janet Baraclough 12-10-2006 04:34 PM

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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from "David in Normandy" contains these
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Thank you for the replies Gary and Janets.
I will try both methods. I've taken a small cutting off it for now and
three
hips - my other half would't let me take more hips as they are "too
pretty"
and she wants to see them on the bush!


The gorgeous fat hips are a favourite with birds, soon she won't be
able to tell what pecked them.

Janet.


I wouldn't be at all surprised if tomorrow morning a pigeon ate the
remaining hips but spat-out the seeds into a nearby plantpot ;-)


Me neither.

Thinking about it, I wonder if black labradors eat them too? He eats
everything else, including wind-fall peaches. First dog we've had that goes
scrumping!


We've had several dogs which picked and ate strawberries, and
enjoyed apples. The present one only picks and eats blackberries.

Janet.

Sacha[_1_] 12-10-2006 04:55 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
On 12/10/06 16:34, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough" wrote:

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Thinking about it, I wonder if black labradors eat them too? He eats
everything else, including wind-fall peaches. First dog we've had that goes
scrumping!


We've had several dogs which picked and ate strawberries, and
enjoyed apples. The present one only picks and eats blackberries.

Janet.


Aren't they rich in Vitamin C? I seem to remember that stuff from when my
children were small called Rosehip Syrup. Perhaps that's why birds and
other animals stock up on them before winters gets going.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


JennyC 12-10-2006 07:58 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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from "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow contains these words:

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message


This morning, I was just looking at the huge crop of hips on my
r.glauca this year!


Do you make rose hip jelly with them?


I have made that, but not for many years! I've been thinking of
making rosehip syrup, though, using the wild rose hips on the hedgerows
(better for red colour than r glauca). Do you have a recipe?

Janet.


What does one do with the syrup ??

BBC Woman's Hour wartime recipe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womansho...recipe93.shtml

OR http://homecooking.about.com/library...e/blfruit9.htm

Jenny



Sue[_3_] 12-10-2006 11:50 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 

"JennyC" wrote
"Janet Baraclough" wrote
I have made that, but not for many years! I've been thinking of
making rosehip syrup, though, using the wild rose hips on the
hedgerows (better for red colour than r glauca). Do you have a
recipe?


What does one do with the syrup ??

BBC Woman's Hour wartime recipe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womansho...recipe93.shtml

OR http://homecooking.about.com/library...e/blfruit9.htm


My Mum tells me that during the war she used to earn a few pennies along
with other children by going out collecting bags of rosehips which were
then sent away for making syrup. I believe it was part of some national
scheme to give to children as a vitamin C supplement because of the
restricted diet.

I seem to remember we were still given Delrosa rose-hip syrup when I was
small.

--
Sue





Farm1 13-10-2006 12:15 AM

Rosa Rugosa
 
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
from "Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow contains these words:
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message


This morning, I was just looking at the huge crop of hips on

my
r.glauca this year!


Do you make rose hip jelly with them?


I have made that, but not for many years! I've been thinking of
making rosehip syrup, though, using the wild rose hips on the

hedgerows
(better for red colour than r glauca). Do you have a recipe?


For syrup or jelly? I'll probably have both though given my recipe
collection. I've not made syrup since I adore the flavour of the
jelly and I've only ever made that.



Farm1 13-10-2006 12:24 AM

Rosa Rugosa
 
"David in Normandy" wrote in message

He even eats the juicy black seeds that fall off the laurel
hedge, we keep telling him off, but he sneaks off and eats more, I

would
have assumed the seeds were poisonous but he seems healthy enough.


When I was a child, all the kids used to eat seeds from what we called
a laurel. Must look up it's latin name.



Farm1 13-10-2006 12:40 AM

Rosa Rugosa
 
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
from "David in Normandy" contains

these

Thinking about it, I wonder if black labradors eat them too? He

eats
everything else, including wind-fall peaches. First dog we've had

that goes
scrumping!


We've had several dogs which picked and ate strawberries, and
enjoyed apples. The present one only picks and eats blackberries.


I knew of a German Shepherd who used to eat bananas stolen out of the
fruit bowl. The family fought for months about who was eating all the
bananas (skin and all) till the culprit was detected with a gobb full
of mushed banana.

And as bananas are now selling for from between 4 and 6 UK pounds/kg
due to a cyclones destroying most of the banana crop I hope the family
has moved the fruit bowl



Sacha[_1_] 13-10-2006 10:03 AM

Rosa Rugosa
 
On 12/10/06 23:50, in article
ws.net, "Sue"
wrote:


"JennyC" wrote
"Janet Baraclough" wrote
I have made that, but not for many years! I've been thinking of
making rosehip syrup, though, using the wild rose hips on the
hedgerows (better for red colour than r glauca). Do you have a
recipe?


What does one do with the syrup ??

BBC Woman's Hour wartime recipe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womansho...recipe93.shtml

OR http://homecooking.about.com/library...e/blfruit9.htm


My Mum tells me that during the war she used to earn a few pennies along
with other children by going out collecting bags of rosehips which were
then sent away for making syrup. I believe it was part of some national
scheme to give to children as a vitamin C supplement because of the
restricted diet.

I seem to remember we were still given Delrosa rose-hip syrup when I was
small.


I was given Parrish's Chemical Food and some malty tasting treacly dark goo.
I didn't mind the latter but the PCF was disgusting and you had to drink it
through a straw because it stained the teeth. I hate to think what it did
to the insides!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


Janet Baraclough 13-10-2006 11:32 AM

Rosa Rugosa
 
The message
from Sacha contains these words:

On 12/10/06 23:50, in article
ws.net, "Sue"
wrote:


My Mum tells me that during the war she used to earn a few pennies along
with other children by going out collecting bags of rosehips which were
then sent away for making syrup. I believe it was part of some national
scheme to give to children as a vitamin C supplement because of the
restricted diet.


So did mine.


I seem to remember we were still given Delrosa rose-hip syrup when I was
small.


So did we

I was given Parrish's Chemical Food and some malty tasting treacly dark goo.
I didn't mind the latter


The goo was probably Virol, a brand of malt extract, good source of B
vitamins. (Istr Virol also included iron but I may have misremembered
that). I love malt extract and still use it in baking an for smoothies.
Janet.

Farm1 13-10-2006 02:16 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 

"Martin Bonner" wrote in message
ups.com...

Farm1 wrote:
And as bananas are now selling for from between 4 and 6 UK

pounds/kg
due to a cyclones destroying most of the banana crop I hope the

family
has moved the fruit bowl


HOW MUCH!?! We bought them for 4lbs/UKP at Bury St Edmunds market

last
weekend.


You lucky duck! I'm green with envy at what you paid! I live in
Australia and a cyclone took out our local crop. Oz doens't import
bananas due to quarantine laws, hence the outrageous price which I
gave in UK prices (since our dollar price would mean nothing to most
readers here)



Martin Bonner 13-10-2006 02:19 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 

Farm1 wrote:
And as bananas are now selling for from between 4 and 6 UK pounds/kg
due to a cyclones destroying most of the banana crop I hope the family
has moved the fruit bowl


HOW MUCH!?! We bought them for 4lbs/UKP at Bury St Edmunds market last
weekend.


Martin Bonner 13-10-2006 02:48 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 

Farm1 wrote:
"Martin Bonner" wrote in message
ups.com...

Farm1 wrote:
And as bananas are now selling for from between 4 and 6 UK
pounds/kg due to a cyclones destroying most of the banana
crop I hope the family has moved the fruit bowl


HOW MUCH!?! We bought them for 4lbs/UKP
at Bury St Edmunds market last weekend.


You lucky duck! I'm green with envy at what you paid! I live in
Australia

Ah! Right. That does make a difference :-)

and a cyclone took out our local crop.

:-(

But on the other hand, can you get the banana equivalent of Granny
Smiths and Russets and Blenheim Orange and ... ? In Britain we get
stuck with the banana equivalent of commercially grown Golden
Delicious.

It was about two months after tasting /real/ bananas in India before I
could bring myself to eat a British banana again.


Sacha[_1_] 13-10-2006 05:13 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
On 13/10/06 11:32, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough" wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

On 12/10/06 23:50, in article
ws.net, "Sue"
wrote:


My Mum tells me that during the war she used to earn a few pennies along
with other children by going out collecting bags of rosehips which were
then sent away for making syrup. I believe it was part of some national
scheme to give to children as a vitamin C supplement because of the
restricted diet.


So did mine.


I seem to remember we were still given Delrosa rose-hip syrup when I was
small.


So did we

I was given Parrish's Chemical Food and some malty tasting treacly dark goo.
I didn't mind the latter


The goo was probably Virol, a brand of malt extract, good source of B
vitamins. (Istr Virol also included iron but I may have misremembered
that). I love malt extract and still use it in baking an for smoothies.


Virol sounds right and wasn't there something called Radio Malt? To this
day, if I have a bad cold or 'flu bug, I take something called Orovite which
has lots of Vit B in it. Three weeks on that and I'm right back on form and
it was a boon when I had glandular fever.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


JennyC 13-10-2006 05:17 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 

"Sacha" wrote
, "Sue" wrote:
I seem to remember we were still given Delrosa rose-hip syrup when I was
small.


I was given Parrish's Chemical Food and some malty tasting treacly dark
goo.
I didn't mind the latter but the PCF was disgusting and you had to drink
it
through a straw because it stained the teeth. I hate to think what it did
to the insides!
Sacha


What about that WONDERFUL syrupy orange juice that came in a square bottle
.......... I loved that :~)
Jenny



JennyC 13-10-2006 05:23 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 13/10/06 17:17, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
, "Sue" wrote:
I seem to remember we were still given Delrosa rose-hip syrup when I
was
small.

I was given Parrish's Chemical Food and some malty tasting treacly dark
goo.
I didn't mind the latter but the PCF was disgusting and you had to drink
it
through a straw because it stained the teeth. I hate to think what it
did
to the insides!
Sacha


What about that WONDERFUL syrupy orange juice that came in a square
bottle
......... I loved that :~)
Jenny

Urggghhh, no - awful memories! Our school matron had the vile idea that
that kind of juice mixed with hot water was the sovereign cure for
everything from a bash on the shins at hockey to a broken arm. It was
absolutely disgusting. A glass of that and one measly aspirin plus half
an
hour's sitting down used to get "now off you go and run around, dear".
Blech.
Sacha


OH - I loved it so much that I used to pester my Mum to swap coupons with
other people so I could have extra :~))
Jenny



Sacha[_1_] 13-10-2006 05:27 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
On 13/10/06 17:17, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
, "Sue" wrote:
I seem to remember we were still given Delrosa rose-hip syrup when I was
small.


I was given Parrish's Chemical Food and some malty tasting treacly dark
goo.
I didn't mind the latter but the PCF was disgusting and you had to drink
it
through a straw because it stained the teeth. I hate to think what it did
to the insides!
Sacha


What about that WONDERFUL syrupy orange juice that came in a square bottle
......... I loved that :~)
Jenny

Urggghhh, no - awful memories! Our school matron had the vile idea that
that kind of juice mixed with hot water was the sovereign cure for
everything from a bash on the shins at hockey to a broken arm. It was
absolutely disgusting. A glass of that and one measly aspirin plus half an
hour's sitting down used to get "now off you go and run around, dear".
Blech.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


Sacha[_1_] 13-10-2006 06:43 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
On 13/10/06 17:23, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 13/10/06 17:17, in article
, "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
, "Sue" wrote:
I seem to remember we were still given Delrosa rose-hip syrup when I
was
small.

I was given Parrish's Chemical Food and some malty tasting treacly dark
goo.
I didn't mind the latter but the PCF was disgusting and you had to drink
it
through a straw because it stained the teeth. I hate to think what it
did
to the insides!
Sacha

What about that WONDERFUL syrupy orange juice that came in a square
bottle
......... I loved that :~)
Jenny

Urggghhh, no - awful memories! Our school matron had the vile idea that
that kind of juice mixed with hot water was the sovereign cure for
everything from a bash on the shins at hockey to a broken arm. It was
absolutely disgusting. A glass of that and one measly aspirin plus half
an
hour's sitting down used to get "now off you go and run around, dear".
Blech.
Sacha


OH - I loved it so much that I used to pester my Mum to swap coupons with
other people so I could have extra :~))


I liked the Virol and munched it down happily while others did their level
best to be AWOL when it was being doled out. Mind you that was when I
boarded briefly at a convent where the food was so utterly revolting that
nowadays it would be considered as a health hazard.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


Farm1 13-10-2006 10:12 PM

Rosa Rugosa
 
"Martin Bonner" wrote in message Farm1
wrote:
"Martin Bonner" wrote in message
Farm1 wrote:
And as bananas are now selling for from between 4 and 6 UK
pounds/kg
HOW MUCH!?! We bought them for 4lbs/UKP
at Bury St Edmunds market last weekend.

I live in Australia

Ah! Right. That does make a difference :-)

and a cyclone took out our local crop.

:-(

But on the other hand, can you get the banana equivalent of Granny
Smiths and Russets and Blenheim Orange and ... ?


Unfortunately not (or maybe in more tropical climes but not where we
live). We get the big bananas which I think are called Cavendish or
the small one's called Lady Finger which I prefer as they are sweeter.

In Britain we get
stuck with the banana equivalent of commercially grown Golden
Delicious.


:-)) We have the same trouble with apples as you have with bananas.
I've grafted a whole lot of British classic apples (6 or 9 different
grafts from memeory) onto 2 seedling apples trees and although I only
lost 1 graft, we've been plagued by drought ever since and not a piece
of fruit in sight :-((

It was about two months after tasting /real/ bananas in India before

I
could bring myself to eat a British banana again.


ATM, I'd settle for a good feed of Cavendish but on the greenish side.
Even the quality of the current ones is not good - too ripe for my
taste and not top quality.




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