Dementor writes
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:48:44 +0100, K wrote:

Dementor writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

You may be feeling smug, but the rest of us have lost a good proportion
of the urg expertise on trees and shrubs and the largest part of the
expertise on tropicals.

I don't do smug. I merely note objectively

"Owners" and "coven" are hardly objective.

that this is a better,
calmer and more friendly place since it was vacated by the
self-serving and self-elected 'leaders'.

The were not leaders and never claimed to be. I'll now desist and leave
you to your stirring.

--
Kay

"Dementor" wrote in message

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days,

PLONK

"K" wrote in message
...

The were not leaders and never claimed to be. I'll now desist and leave
you to your stirring.

--
Kay

Not stirring at all, just stating the fact.

Can you not see that the newsgroup has improved? No aggression? Sensible
questions and lots of answers by those interested in gardening, not 'point
scoring' and 'kissy kissy messages' which could, and should, have gone to
email?

Then you are blinkered. Don't come in here causing trouble again. Let the
gardeners ask questions on gardening and let those who have the answers
answer.

Go and join the Tennis Club

Mike


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"Dementor" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:48:44 +0100, K wrote:

Dementor writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

You may be feeling smug, but the rest of us have lost a good proportion
of the urg expertise on trees and shrubs and the largest part of the
expertise on tropicals.

I don't do smug. I merely note objectively that this is a better,
calmer and more friendly place since it was vacated by the
self-serving and self-elected 'leaders'. They have no monopoly on
expertise in the subjects you mention and the slight hiatus you
deplore will be transient. The atmosphere will now surely be more
attractive to other, more congenial contributors, unencumbered by the
burden of elitism combined with the heavy load of shoulder-chips and
domination fixation.



De Mentore

So we have substituted you for some of the experts that have fled this
place.
I don't think we have a good deal.

"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message
...


So we have substituted you for some of the experts that have fled this
place.
I don't think we have a good deal.


The newsgroup doesn't seem to be lacking advice :-)))

However it would seem to still be attracting trouble makers. Go and join a
Tennis Club

Mike


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In article , Dementor
writes

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

D.Mentor.



Quiet it might be, but it's questionable it will ever be as useful a
resource without the expertise and knowledge of Sacha, Judith, David and
Janet.

In all my correspondence with them over 5 years, I never experienced
anything but courtesy, helpfulness and friendship.

The newsgroup is not 'better', having had to be depleted due to the
actions of the few who seemed to take a joy in personal defamation and
an aggressive stance against anyone who questioned their gardening
advice.

There are those of us who have been quiet throughout the past few months
over events leading up to this (rightly or wrongly!) but that doesn't
mean to say that we see the departure of keen gardeners as anything but
regrettable.

May I take it by your use of the word 'coven' that you are assuming that
the participants were women and that men would never defend themselves
against personal attack?


--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

wrote in message ...
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:34:55 +0100, "mike" wrote:

Why do only newbies, net kops and trolls answer your posts?

:-))

Having answered, as a sock, which one of those do you slot yourself into?

:-))

Mike

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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , Dementor
writes

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

D.Mentor.



Quiet it might be, but it's questionable it will ever be as useful a
resource without the expertise and knowledge of Sacha, Judith, David and
Janet.

In all my correspondence with them over 5 years, I never experienced
anything but courtesy, helpfulness and friendship.

The newsgroup is not 'better', having had to be depleted due to the
actions of the few who seemed to take a joy in personal defamation and an
aggressive stance against anyone who questioned their gardening advice.

There are those of us who have been quiet throughout the past few months
over events leading up to this (rightly or wrongly!) but that doesn't mean
to say that we see the departure of keen gardeners as anything but
regrettable.

May I take it by your use of the word 'coven' that you are assuming that
the participants were women and that men would never defend themselves
against personal attack?


--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


and you will join them in uk.rec.gardening.moderated no doubt?

Bye ...

Mike


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In message , Janet Tweedy
writes

The newsgroup is not 'better', having had to be depleted due to the
actions of the few who seemed to take a joy in personal defamation and
an aggressive stance against anyone who questioned their gardening
advice.

As one of the people accused (wrongly) by Sacha, and having been abused
by her several times during the past ten or so years, I am relieved that
she has gone, (or that she says she has gone). She accused me of
something I was not guilty of and I cannot forgive her for that. Were
she to apologise, I would gladly do so but that is highly unlikely.

There are those of us who have been quiet throughout the past few
months over events leading up to this (rightly or wrongly!) but that
doesn't mean to say that we see the departure of keen gardeners as
anything but regrettable.

May I take it by your use of the word 'coven' that you are assuming
that the participants were women and that men would never defend
themselves against personal attack?


I believe that, in the world of witchcraft, 'covens' include men.
--
June Hughes

"June Hughes" wrote in message
...
In message , Janet Tweedy
writes

The newsgroup is not 'better', having had to be depleted due to the
actions of the few who seemed to take a joy in personal defamation and an
aggressive stance against anyone who questioned their gardening advice.

As one of the people accused (wrongly) by Sacha, and having been abused by
her several times during the past ten or so years, I am relieved that she
has gone, (or that she says she has gone). She accused me of something I
was not guilty of and I cannot forgive her for that. Were she to
apologise, I would gladly do so but that is highly unlikely.


As an 'owner' and as someone 'who taught Adam', it seemed she was entitled
to say what she liked about who she liked and didn't expect any challenge. I
am still waiting for her to explain why she called me a liar. Not that I
will get one now as I will not be granted entry into the inner sanctum of
uk.rec.gardening.moderated.


There are those of us who have been quiet throughout the past few months
over events leading up to this (rightly or wrongly!) but that doesn't mean
to say that we see the departure of keen gardeners as anything but
regrettable.

May I take it by your use of the word 'coven' that you are assuming that
the participants were women and that men would never defend themselves
against personal attack?


I believe that, in the world of witchcraft, 'covens' include men.
--
June Hughes

Mike
Not a Witch



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"June Hughes" wrote

I believe that, in the world of witchcraft, 'covens' include men.
June Hughes

According to Wikipedia the whole of URG is a coven :~))))

Coven or covan was originally a late medieval Scots word (c1500) meaning a
gathering of any kind, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. It
derives from the Latin root word convenire meaning to come together or to
gather, which also gave rise to the English word convene.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coven

Jenny (of the purple broomstick........)

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:16:02 +1000, "A Plonker"
please@askifyouwannaknow wrote:

"Dementor" wrote in message

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days,

PLONK

Thankee kindly, and in Capitals, too!

It's a singular honour which I shall forever treasure.

XX
___________________
Mentor.De

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:31:16 +0100, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote:


"Dementor" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:48:44 +0100, K wrote:

Dementor writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:23 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Well, having watched developments over the last 8 days, I have to
conclude that the newsgroup has reverted to a quiet, relatively
civilised, useful resource and the forecasts of doom have not
materialised now that the owners and the rest of the coven seem to
have moved out, hopefully permanently.

You may be feeling smug, but the rest of us have lost a good proportion
of the urg expertise on trees and shrubs and the largest part of the
expertise on tropicals.

I don't do smug. I merely note objectively that this is a better,
calmer and more friendly place since it was vacated by the
self-serving and self-elected 'leaders'. They have no monopoly on
expertise in the subjects you mention and the slight hiatus you
deplore will be transient. The atmosphere will now surely be more
attractive to other, more congenial contributors, unencumbered by the
burden of elitism combined with the heavy load of shoulder-chips and
domination fixation.

De Mentore

So we have substituted you for some of the experts that have fled this
place.

You now have a better mousetrap. Other experts will come.

I don't think we have a good deal.

It never was a deal.

Regards

Dem Entore.

"Dementor" wrote in message
...

You now have a better mousetrap. Other experts will come.

I don't think we have a good deal.

It never was a deal.

Regards

Dem Entore.

But we did have a deal, a good deal similar to the one the Nazis had in
Germany in 1939 if you were not a Jew, where 'certain people should not be
allowed to breed' :-((

"Ve haf vays ov making you obay"

WRONG

Mike


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In message , JennyC
writes

"June Hughes" wrote

I believe that, in the world of witchcraft, 'covens' include men.
June Hughes

According to Wikipedia the whole of URG is a coven :~))))

Coven or covan was originally a late medieval Scots word (c1500) meaning a
gathering of any kind, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. It
derives from the Latin root word convenire meaning to come together or to
gather, which also gave rise to the English word convene.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coven

Jenny (of the purple broomstick........)


Oh well, there you go. Learning all the time
--
June Hughes