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Hi,
I suppose that most of us are happy about the warm winter, so far. However, anyone who rough dug their plot during autumn to allow the frost and winter weather to break it down has been out of luck so far. Another problem which will most likely rear its ugly head is PESTS the weather has been too mild to provide natural control over winter. There may be another side of the coin whereby predators such as ladybirds may have survived in greater numbers overwinter and will be active earlier, so nature may provide a balance after all. Wishful thinking or sitting on fence? regards Cineman |
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cineman writes
Hi, I suppose that most of us are happy about the warm winter, so far. Nope. Not happy at all. Scary. Global warming is bad news for us all, and this winter is really out of the ordinary. However, anyone who rough dug their plot during autumn to allow the frost and winter weather to break it down has been out of luck so far. Another problem which will most likely rear its ugly head is PESTS the weather has been too mild to provide natural control over winter. There may be another side of the coin whereby predators such as ladybirds may have survived in greater numbers overwinter and will be active earlier, so nature may provide a balance after all. Wishful thinking or sitting on fence? Wishful thinking. If pests get out of control in the summer in a normal year, all that will happen is that they'll get out of control earlier this year. -- Kay |
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"K" wrote in message ... : cineman writes : Hi, : I suppose that most of us are happy about the warm winter, so far. : : Nope. Not happy at all. Scary. Global warming is bad news for us all, : and this winter is really out of the ordinary. : I prefer the bright and cold weather to this continual rain, although the water supply will never be at risk down here which is good |
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For a long time I have believed that all this fuss one hears about pests
becoming rampant if there aren't any winter frosts, really is utter rubbish / extremely exaggerated... and very much an 'old wife's tale'. After many years of gardening here, where we hardly get any frost, and snow is as rare as hens' teeth, I have never experienced such a 'plague'. Anyway, if it were that much of a problem, how on earth do they ever manage to grow anything further south, on the Scillies, or more southerly still in milder regions of the continent? Best wishes, Keith "cineman" wrote in message k... Hi, I suppose that most of us are happy about the warm winter, so far. However, anyone who rough dug their plot during autumn to allow the frost and winter weather to break it down has been out of luck so far. Another problem which will most likely rear its ugly head is PESTS the weather has been too mild to provide natural control over winter. There may be another side of the coin whereby predators such as ladybirds may have survived in greater numbers overwinter and will be active earlier, so nature may provide a balance after all. Wishful thinking or sitting on fence? regards Cineman |
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Keith (Dorset) wrote: For a long time I have believed that all this fuss one hears about pests becoming rampant if there aren't any winter frosts, really is utter rubbish / extremely exaggerated... and very much an 'old wife's tale'. After many years of gardening here, where we hardly get any frost, and snow is as rare as hens' teeth, I have never experienced such a 'plague'. Anyway, if it were that much of a problem, how on earth do they ever manage to grow anything further south, on the Scillies, or more southerly still in milder regions of the continent? Best wishes, Keith well I think global warming has a lot to answer for just look at the insects flying around too many critters for this time of year |
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Agreed.
I reckon I've been pretty much in touch with the natural world all my life, and I'm certain that global warming, from whatever cause, is hitting hard, and importantly, very much faster than many researchers anticipated. It doesn't take a degree in climateology for anyone with their eyes open to realise what real problems we'll all face in the very near future. So the suited, townie politicians better soon get their priorities right: forget about foreign holidays and fancy 'upmarket' cars... and get back to the real world - now. (rant over.. aah, that's better) Best wishes, Keith "The Minister" wrote in message ups.com... Keith (Dorset) wrote: For a long time I have believed that all this fuss one hears about pests becoming rampant if there aren't any winter frosts, really is utter rubbish / extremely exaggerated... and very much an 'old wife's tale'. After many years of gardening here, where we hardly get any frost, and snow is as rare as hens' teeth, I have never experienced such a 'plague'. Anyway, if it were that much of a problem, how on earth do they ever manage to grow anything further south, on the Scillies, or more southerly still in milder regions of the continent? Best wishes, Keith well I think global warming has a lot to answer for just look at the insects flying around too many critters for this time of year |
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"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message ... Agreed. I reckon I've been pretty much in touch with the natural world all my life, and I'm certain that global warming, from whatever cause, is hitting hard, and importantly, very much faster than many researchers anticipated. It doesn't take a degree in climateology for anyone with their eyes open to realise what real problems we'll all face in the very near future. So the suited, townie politicians better soon get their priorities right: forget about foreign holidays and fancy 'upmarket' cars... and get back to the real world - now. Not a hope in hell, there are plans to increase the runway capacity for Heathrow, so instead of one plane every minute, we can expect one every 70 seconds. If this Government were REALLY serious about polution, they would cut the number of flights out of Heathrow by half, at least. Alan |
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In article , Alan Holmes
says... Not a hope in hell, there are plans to increase the runway capacity for Heathrow, so instead of one plane every minute, we can expect one every 70 seconds. I'm sure the environmentalists would consider even such a small reduction in flights a step in the right direction! |
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Alan Holmes wrote:
Not a hope in hell, there are plans to increase the runway capacity for Heathrow, so instead of one plane every minute, we can expect one every 70 seconds. Erm Alan, not wishing to appear picky, but a plane every 70 seconds is slightly less than a plane every minute ;-) |
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Keith (Dorset) wrote: I reckon I've been pretty much in touch with the natural world all my life, and I'm certain that global warming, from whatever cause, is hitting hard, and importantly, very much faster than many researchers anticipated. Yes, by 10 years too early! 10 years!! Do you realise? And don't say 'whatever cause'. You know why!! We must stop CO2 emmissions completely. Everyone is responsible. Cheap flights to France, spain etc. should be banned. Cheap plastic crap imports from China for our Pound Stretchers shops should be all banned. All supermarket should stop providing plastic bags. The car industry should be halted. We should stop all imports from South America (now the biggest beef provider in Europe as the country cut down trees, 'the world's lungs' for pastures) and all imports from China. We should demand not to see asparagus from Peru nor cabbages from Poland in our local shops. Stop buying these products and local farmers will then have an outlet, again. Demand decent, clean and affordable public transport. Share your car with others. Take a boat or train but stop flying! Don't buy imports but local to UK clothing/shoes. Don't use chemicals, none whatesoever, in your garden and at home. Buy organic produce only. By ethical goods, knowing that the extra 10p you spend on a produce will help the producer carry on producing organically. Buy your produce locally .... and keep an eye on that big glacier above England. When that melts, we're going to get really cold again. It doesn't take a degree in climateology for anyone with their eyes open to realise what real problems we'll all face in the very near future. We are facing them now or we wouldn't be talking about them. Ecology and environmentalism was in the 60s called a hoax to sink the large manufactures of plastic, cloth, cars and anything relaying on fossil fuel. So the suited, townie politicians better soon get their priorities right: forget about foreign holidays and fancy 'upmarket' cars... and get back to the real world - now. Just look at Bush versus Gore, 48% v 49% of the votes at the american elections. How can you ask for priorities when something like this happens? It's up to every single individual to make a change, a small one every month. You don't need to talk about it, just do it and others will follow. Too many people think that they, by themselves, won't make a difference. That is not true. I think you would score pretty high in your energy use footprint Keith! You even think your neighbours could do something about it. Why don't you talk to them?! Already, I can remember the first time I used a low energy bulb - look around you now, everybody uses them! (rant over.. aah, that's better) Go ahead Keith, it's good to talk ) |
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La Puce wrote:
Yes, by 10 years too early! 10 years!! Do you realise? And don't say 'whatever cause'. You know why!! We must stop CO2 emmissions completely. that would be difficult cuting down is possible but not stopped completely Everyone is responsible. Cheap flights to France, spain Yup true but do we walk there? Demand decent, clean and affordable public transport yeah right on .. Share your car with others. too right but what does yer double decker red bus drive on?? let me guess honey, biodegradeable fuel, right? |
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Hi Helene (?)
Well... and I thought I was a radical! Even though we recycle every single thing we can, live in a small house, hardly ever drive anywehere, switch off the lights everytime we leave the room, don't leave the telly on standby, refuse carrier bags at Asda - and grow all our own produce. a wake up call such as yours does make me think what more 'I' can do... and, where some might be offended, I genuinely thank you for that. I say 'whatever cause' as a rather cowardly cop-out on the forum as although we 'know' what the cause is, I could not quote actual facts and figures to back up my statement here - I'm not scientific - just a down to earth, country person who has for decades (I am 52) grieved and become more and more heartbroken over natural habitat loss, deforestation etc. .... and nowadays the thought that our 'RECYCLED' plastic milk containers are being shipped to, and sorted in China! Very best wishes. We have a lot in common. Keith "La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... Keith (Dorset) wrote: I reckon I've been pretty much in touch with the natural world all my life, and I'm certain that global warming, from whatever cause, is hitting hard, and importantly, very much faster than many researchers anticipated. Yes, by 10 years too early! 10 years!! Do you realise? And don't say 'whatever cause'. You know why!! We must stop CO2 emmissions completely. Everyone is responsible. Cheap flights to France, spain etc. should be banned. Cheap plastic crap imports from China for our Pound Stretchers shops should be all banned. All supermarket should stop providing plastic bags. The car industry should be halted. We should stop all imports from South America (now the biggest beef provider in Europe as the country cut down trees, 'the world's lungs' for pastures) and all imports from China. We should demand not to see asparagus from Peru nor cabbages from Poland in our local shops. Stop buying these products and local farmers will then have an outlet, again. Demand decent, clean and affordable public transport. Share your car with others. Take a boat or train but stop flying! Don't buy imports but local to UK clothing/shoes. Don't use chemicals, none whatesoever, in your garden and at home. Buy organic produce only. By ethical goods, knowing that the extra 10p you spend on a produce will help the producer carry on producing organically. Buy your produce locally .... and keep an eye on that big glacier above England. When that melts, we're going to get really cold again. It doesn't take a degree in climateology for anyone with their eyes open to realise what real problems we'll all face in the very near future. We are facing them now or we wouldn't be talking about them. Ecology and environmentalism was in the 60s called a hoax to sink the large manufactures of plastic, cloth, cars and anything relaying on fossil fuel. So the suited, townie politicians better soon get their priorities right: forget about foreign holidays and fancy 'upmarket' cars... and get back to the real world - now. Just look at Bush versus Gore, 48% v 49% of the votes at the american elections. How can you ask for priorities when something like this happens? It's up to every single individual to make a change, a small one every month. You don't need to talk about it, just do it and others will follow. Too many people think that they, by themselves, won't make a difference. That is not true. I think you would score pretty high in your energy use footprint Keith! You even think your neighbours could do something about it. Why don't you talk to them?! Already, I can remember the first time I used a low energy bulb - look around you now, everybody uses them! (rant over.. aah, that's better) Go ahead Keith, it's good to talk ) |
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"The Minister" wrote in message ups.com... Keith (Dorset) wrote: For a long time I have believed that all this fuss one hears about pests becoming rampant if there aren't any winter frosts, really is utter rubbish / extremely exaggerated... and very much an 'old wife's tale'. After many years of gardening here, where we hardly get any frost, and snow is as rare as hens' teeth, I have never experienced such a 'plague'. Anyway, if it were that much of a problem, how on earth do they ever manage to grow anything further south, on the Scillies, or more southerly still in milder regions of the continent? Best wishes, Keith well I think global warming has a lot to answer for just look at the insects flying around too many critters for this time of year I don't think we have too many 'critters' in the UK. Alan |
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On 17/1/07 22:52, in article ,
"Alan Holmes" wrote: "The Minister" wrote in message ups.com... snip well I think global warming has a lot to answer for just look at the insects flying around too many critters for this time of year I don't think we have too many 'critters' in the UK. Sure we do. And some of 'em are two legged. ;-)) But with regard to this, though going off at a bit of a tangent, I did read in a newspaper the other day that while council offices are keeping quiet about it, rat populations are growing fast because of the new regime of collecting domestic food waste just once a fortnight. Without a prolonged cold spell, that problem can only get worse. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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I reckon that 'most', not 'some' of the 'critters' in the UK are 'two
legged'! Not too many around here though thankfully. Lots of rats though. (Is a 'critter' necessarily an ill-favoured creature / a pest? Can a dog be deemed a 'critter' - or just if it bites someone....? I suppose rats must be the 'mother-of-all-four-legged-critters'?) ...just thinking out loud there... The rats like to scudge around in the stone walls around the fields here. We have all had to stop putting out bird food because, given half the chance, they even climb up and hang upside-down on nut feeders! I think the problem would be worse if the weather were to get hard... wouldn't they come closer to the houses in search of food? Our cooked food gets chucked into a metal dustbin and left for a year or so to completely decompose. All the other green waste goes, you guessed it, into the compost boxes. Whenever I see our neighbours' kitchen-waste bin put out for collection, I nearly cry. I feel like asking them if instead - I can tip it on my heap. Only the thought of having to sort the green from the 'critter bait' prevents me! ;-) Keith "Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 17/1/07 22:52, in article , "Alan Holmes" wrote: "The Minister" wrote in message ups.com... snip well I think global warming has a lot to answer for just look at the insects flying around too many critters for this time of year I don't think we have too many 'critters' in the UK. Sure we do. And some of 'em are two legged. ;-)) But with regard to this, though going off at a bit of a tangent, I did read in a newspaper the other day that while council offices are keeping quiet about it, rat populations are growing fast because of the new regime of collecting domestic food waste just once a fortnight. Without a prolonged cold spell, that problem can only get worse. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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