quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

My pond pump has given up the ghost, so I went out and bought a new one.
The has sudden thought - isn't there some sort of legal requirement
about who installs/ repairs pond pumps or rather home electric's now?
My brother and I put the pump in about 12 years ago and so we just
buried a cable in the ground in a conduit pies and fixed everything
together.
Do I have to get a specialist electrician in or a special pond person? I
don't want to find that I am outside the law when we come to sell the
house.

janet
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quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:01:56 +0000, Janet Tweedy
wrote:

My pond pump has given up the ghost, so I went out and bought a new one.
The has sudden thought - isn't there some sort of legal requirement
about who installs/ repairs pond pumps or rather home electric's now?
My brother and I put the pump in about 12 years ago and so we just
buried a cable in the ground in a conduit pies and fixed everything
together.
Do I have to get a specialist electrician in or a special pond person? I
don't want to find that I am outside the law when we come to sell the
house.


The socket next to my pond has a cover that clips into place making it
waterproof. The socket is wired using armoured cable and a leak
current detector is fitted. It was installed by an electrician. I
don't know about the regulations but I'm sure the electrician knew
what he was doing.

The job itself took a day and the parts cost nearly £250 so the total
cost would have been quite significant. As it happens I did a straight
swap for a PC that I no longer needed.

Steve

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quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:01:56 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote:
or rather home electric's now?

Last time I looked it was only for inside Kitchens, Bathrooms and new
builds (including new extentions)

But they do keep moving the goalposts rather frequently these days :(

quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

WaltA writes
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:01:56 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote:
or rather home electric's now?

Last time I looked it was only for inside Kitchens, Bathrooms and new
builds (including new extentions)

But they do keep moving the goalposts rather frequently these days :(

It also covers areas with particular hazards, which covers outdoors.
Google on 'Part P'

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Kay

quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

Janet Tweedy wrote:
My pond pump has given up the ghost, so I went out and bought a new
one. The has sudden thought - isn't there some sort of legal
requirement about who installs/ repairs pond pumps or rather home
electric's now? My brother and I put the pump in about 12 years ago
and so we just buried a cable in the ground in a conduit pies and
fixed everything together.
Do I have to get a specialist electrician in or a special pond
person? I don't want to find that I am outside the law when we come
to sell the house.

janet

Have a read here,......
http://www.niceic.org.uk/consumers/partp1.html

Also click the garden hazard link on the right of the page. I think the new
reg only apply to new installations. So I'd imagine if you just change the
pump, you will be ok legally. That's just my 'opinion'.
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quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

WaltA writes
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:01:56 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote:
or rather home electric's now?

Last time I looked it was only for inside Kitchens, Bathrooms and new
builds (including new extentions)

But they do keep moving the goalposts rather frequently these days :(

'Special locations' are notifiable, and that includes gardens. I haven't
delved deep enough to see whether replacing a pump counts as amending a
circuit.

See the Inst. of Electrical Engineers FAQs on the topic.

http://www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/...ellings.cfm#Q2
--
Kay

quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 13:49:32 +0000, K wrote:
It also covers areas with particular hazards, which covers outdoors.
Google on 'Part P'

Thanks Kay, will do, when I summon up some stamina ;)

Hmmm,,, wonders if my tropical fish tanks could be called a particular
hazard (two of my larger ones are bigger than some folks ponds ! )

Now, you got me thinking, are they going to ban reeling out an
extension cable into the garden next :-?(
Sorry Janet, straying off your subject a bit !

quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

BoyPete writes
Janet Tweedy wrote:
My pond pump has given up the ghost, so I went out and bought a new
one. The has sudden thought - isn't there some sort of legal
requirement about who installs/ repairs pond pumps or rather home
electric's now? My brother and I put the pump in about 12 years ago
and so we just buried a cable in the ground in a conduit pies and
fixed everything together.
Do I have to get a specialist electrician in or a special pond
person? I don't want to find that I am outside the law when we come
to sell the house.

janet

Have a read here,......
http://www.niceic.org.uk/consumers/partp1.html

Also click the garden hazard link on the right of the page. I think the new
reg only apply to new installations. So I'd imagine if you just change the
pump, you will be ok legally. That's just my 'opinion'.

Note that both this and the IEE page refer to the ODPM guide for
consumers on the subject, but of course the ODPM is no more, and neither
of these links take you to whichever govt dept now deals with this ...

And no, Nick, this isn't an invitation for you to take another
side-swipe at civil servants.
--
Kay

quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:03:35 +0000, K wrote:
http://www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/...ellings.cfm#Q2

Heck ! Or words to that effect !!
Doesnt leave much. Criminal as well,
So I suppose if we get caught doing a bit of electrical where we
shouldn't we'd better take up pae.....lia as well to avoid going to
jail :(

Let us hope that Janet has a plug & socket of approved type and
doesn't have to install a whole new circuit.

quick pond enquiry re electrics
 

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:44:23 +0000, K wrote:

BoyPete writes
Janet Tweedy wrote:
My pond pump has given up the ghost, so I went out and bought a new
one. The has sudden thought - isn't there some sort of legal
requirement about who installs/ repairs pond pumps or rather home
electric's now? My brother and I put the pump in about 12 years ago
and so we just buried a cable in the ground in a conduit pies and
fixed everything together.
Do I have to get a specialist electrician in or a special pond
person? I don't want to find that I am outside the law when we come
to sell the house.

janet

Have a read here,......
http://www.niceic.org.uk/consumers/partp1.html

Also click the garden hazard link on the right of the page. I think the new
reg only apply to new installations. So I'd imagine if you just change the
pump, you will be ok legally. That's just my 'opinion'.

Note that both this and the IEE page refer to the ODPM guide for
consumers on the subject, but of course the ODPM is no more, and neither
of these links take you to whichever govt dept now deals with this ...

And no, Nick, this isn't an invitation for you to take another
side-swipe at civil servants.

What was that phrase..'The road to hell is paved with regulations'..?


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