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*Very* clingy rosemary
A friend of ours has a wonderful prostrate rosemary and has told us to go
and take cuttings if we want to (they live in Salcombe) This is not the more usual prostrate one and they can't remember its name. It gives the impression of clinging to the wall and flowing down it like a curtain and onwards across the path. It doesn't arch out and then down. Has anyone any suggestions as to which it might be? If I can get a few suggestions to give them they might remembers its name. I know it's tender in most places. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 16 Feb, 13:16, Sacha wrote:
A friend of ours has a wonderful prostrate rosemary and has told us to go and take cuttings if we want to (they live in Salcombe) This is not the more usual prostrate one and they can't remember its name. It gives the impression of clinging to the wall and flowing down it like a curtain and onwards across the path. It doesn't arch out and then down. Has anyone any suggestions as to which it might be? If I can get a few suggestions to give them they might remembers its name. I know it's tender in most places. There's Primley Blue, Jackman's and Blue Rain. Semi prostrate Corsican Blue. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 16/2/07 13:40, in article , "La Puce" wrote: On 16 Feb, 13:16, Sacha wrote: A friend of ours has a wonderful prostrate rosemary and has told us to go and take cuttings if we want to (they live in Salcombe) This is not the more usual prostrate one and they can't remember its name. It gives the impression of clinging to the wall and flowing down it like a curtain and onwards across the path. It doesn't arch out and then down. Has anyone any suggestions as to which it might be? If I can get a few suggestions to give them they might remembers its name. I know it's tender in most places. There's Primley Blue, Jackman's and Blue Rain. Semi prostrate Corsican Blue. None of these remotely fit the description I gave. Primley Blue is *only just* prostrate and by many is described as upright. I have described the one we know as appearing almost to cling to the wall. Rosmarinus Blue Rain grows to about 2' and will not run down a wall and across a path. It's more of a basket or tub plant. R. Jackman's is unknown to me or to Ray or the Plant Finder or Google. And no, it's not R. Severn Seas, either. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) Try contacting Charles Williams (burncoose nurseries) as there is a plant matching that description in their customer car parking area (sorry I have no idea which it is - but I have seen them down here and wondered, so am interested in the answer!) -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and Lapageria rosea |
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-- "Sacha" wrote in message . uk... None of these remotely fit the description I gave. -- Sacha well you wouldn't agree and give praise if it was would you? So why reply? Just HOW nasty CAN you get? :-((((( Mike .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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On 16/2/07 18:02, in article , "Charlie
Pridham" wrote: snip Try contacting Charles Williams (burncoose nurseries) as there is a plant matching that description in their customer car parking area (sorry I have no idea which it is - but I have seen them down here and wondered, so am interested in the answer!) Good clue - thanks, Charlie, I'll do that. These friends could well have got it from there. It's a real beauty so if our cuttings strike well I'll make sure you get one or two. ;-) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 16 Feb, 17:40, Sacha wrote:
None of these remotely fit the description I gave. Primley Blue is *only just* prostrate and by many is described as upright. 'Remotely' is perhaps a bit too hard - but then it's not surprising. I have a Blue rain which has followed the wall and went under the fence, because the sun shines on that side. I've seen a Blue Rain entirely covering a pot, running down the pot and across the path. There's also Rampart Boule and Tuscan Blue, both are prostrate, the first one is very rampant. There's so many. I thought you'd needed ideas of names which is what I have given you. There's Mc Connell's Blue, Benenden Blue, Corsican blue and Tuscan blue, Dwarf blue, Fota etc. All are prostate and all can seemingly 'cling' to walls if left to it, left unpruned. You didn't described how broad are the leaves which is also something which would help with your search. |
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On 16 Feb, 17:40, Sacha wrote:
R. Jackman's is unknown to me or to Ray or the Plant Finder or Google. I knew I hadn't imagined it and would find it. Check this link to find Jackman's Prostrate which is so like the one you describe. I'll get some pictures of it from a friend. The leaves are a bit broader and waxy. The catalogue pdf gives you details of it. http://www.burncoose.co.uk |
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In article , Sacha
writes None of these remotely fit the description I gave. Primley Blue is *only just* prostrate and by many is described as upright. I have described the one we know as appearing almost to cling to the wall. Rosmarinus Blue Rain grows to about 2' and will not run down a wall and across a path. It's more of a basket or tub plant. R. Jackman's is unknown to me or to Ray or the Plant Finder or Google. And no, it's not R. Severn Seas, either. Suggest you might try National collection holder: Charlesworth, Dr S J Address: Dr S J Charlesworth, Downderry Nursery, Pillar Box Lane, Hadlow, Tonbridge, Kent, TN11 9SW, Telephone: 01732 810081 E-mail: Website: www.downderry-nursery.co.uk Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On 17/2/07 12:27, in article , "Janet Tweedy"
wrote: In article , Sacha writes None of these remotely fit the description I gave. Primley Blue is *only just* prostrate and by many is described as upright. I have described the one we know as appearing almost to cling to the wall. Rosmarinus Blue Rain grows to about 2' and will not run down a wall and across a path. It's more of a basket or tub plant. R. Jackman's is unknown to me or to Ray or the Plant Finder or Google. And no, it's not R. Severn Seas, either. Suggest you might try National collection holder: Charlesworth, Dr S J Address: Dr S J Charlesworth, Downderry Nursery, Pillar Box Lane, Hadlow, Tonbridge, Kent, TN11 9SW, Telephone: 01732 810081 E-mail: Website: www.downderry-nursery.co.uk Thanks, Janet, I'll have a look at the rosemary in Salcombe first and photograph it. I haven't seen it since last summer, so can't remember the finer details, only its extraordinary growth habit. I'm also going to ask Olivier Filippi in France if any of his answer that description. (Am also going to order two or three of R. 'Montagnette' from him, which is a pure white one) We do know that it's too tender for 'normal' gardens in this country, so it might not be widely available, other than at places like Burncoose, as Charlie suggested. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:40:26 +0000
Sacha wrote: [] Thanks, Janet, I'll have a look at the rosemary in Salcombe first and photograph it. I haven't seen it since last summer, so can't remember the finer details, only its extraordinary growth habit. I'm also going to ask Olivier Filippi in France if any of his answer that description. (Am also going to order two or three of R. 'Montagnette' from him, which is a pure white one) We do know that it's too tender for 'normal' gardens in this country, so it might not be widely available, other than at places like Burncoose, as Charlie suggested. In fact my first thought was to check the Filippi web site. 'Barcelona' might fit the bill. Tender, too. -E -- Emery Davis You can reply to ecom by removing the well known companies Questions about wine? Visit http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com |
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On 17/2/07 14:16, in article , "Emery
Davis" wrote: On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:40:26 +0000 Sacha wrote: [] Thanks, Janet, I'll have a look at the rosemary in Salcombe first and photograph it. I haven't seen it since last summer, so can't remember the finer details, only its extraordinary growth habit. I'm also going to ask Olivier Filippi in France if any of his answer that description. (Am also going to order two or three of R. 'Montagnette' from him, which is a pure white one) We do know that it's too tender for 'normal' gardens in this country, so it might not be widely available, other than at places like Burncoose, as Charlie suggested. In fact my first thought was to check the Filippi web site. 'Barcelona' might fit the bill. Tender, too. -E That sounds very promising indeed. I can't find a pic of that anywhere either, of course! I've emailed our friends because they're away at present and asked them to cudgel their memories as to where they got it and if at all possible, the name. The one they've got must be at least 5 to 6' long but of course, in the conditions of Salcombe, it has the perfect location. According to the Plant Finder, Pepiniere Filippi is the sole supplier of this plant. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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On 16 Feb, 18:03, "'Mike'" wrote:
well you wouldn't agree and give praise if it was would you? So why reply? Just HOW nasty CAN you get? :-((((( Don't worry Mike and thank you for your support. As I said I've found Jackman's, the variety she said she never heard of, nor her husband Ray, nor her books nor google. And Charlie advised her to see at Burncoose - and they've got it. Mind boggle ... http://www.burncoose.co.uk |
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"La Puce" wrote in message oups.com... On 16 Feb, 18:03, "'Mike'" wrote: well you wouldn't agree and give praise if it was would you? So why reply? Just HOW nasty CAN you get? :-((((( Don't worry Mike and thank you for your support. As I said I've found Jackman's, the variety she said she never heard of, nor her husband Ray, nor her books nor google. And Charlie advised her to see at Burncoose - and they've got it. Mind boggle ... http://www.burncoose.co.uk You're never too old to learn, unless of course ............ .. .......... 'You know it all' :-)))) Mike -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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On 17/2/07 15:34, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: On 16 Feb, 18:03, "'Mike'" wrote: well you wouldn't agree and give praise if it was would you? So why reply? Just HOW nasty CAN you get? :-((((( Don't worry Mike and thank you for your support. As I said I've found Jackman's, the variety she said she never heard of, nor her husband Ray, nor her books nor google. And Charlie advised her to see at Burncoose - and they've got it. Mind boggle ... http://www.burncoose.co.uk Charlie did not advise me to see that variety at Burncoose, he advised me to ask which they have in their car park. That remark is extremely misleading. You gave me the wrong and incomplete name originally and therefore what you gave was untraceable. That is not *my* fault but you still persist in calling it "Jackman's" which is how the confusion arose and why I said there was no such plant. Since you gave the correct name, I have established that Burncoose and one other nursery in the east of UK have that plant. Even Filippi doesn't have it and as it is not unknown for nurseries to mis-label things, some being worse than others, I am waiting to hear more from the owners of the house and to receive a reply from Burncoose as to which is in their car park. There is no photograph of that variety available, Burncoose don't show it in their catalogue, nor do they name it as a new variety, so it's possible it's an unknown one they've named themselves. That happens in some nurseries when a plant is not identifiable or is e.g. brought back from abroad and the Plant Finder is full of such examples. We have a shrubby lonicera here that nobody has ever been able to identify so we simply call it Lonicera 'Hill House'. We have a rampantly climbing orange-flowered tropaeolum someone brought us from Peru. You won't find a photograph of those anywhere on the internet, either. That might mean R. Jackman's Prostrate is the plant I'm searching for but it might not. It might also be how the eastern UK nursery got hold of it - from Burncoose. I am not convinced - personally - that the labelling of that rosemary as Jackman's Prostrate is conclusive as to its identity. Anyone can Google for information on prostrate rosemaries, which is what you did. If I thought that would be the easy method of identifying this one, I would have been satisfied with doing the same. As it is, I'm hoping to hear from people who actually know what I'm looking for and at. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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