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Leslie 26-02-2007 06:06 PM

Sacha help please
 
Hello Sacha

I live in Cornwall and I have seen in roadside hedges and field margins.

An almost black Iris of 20 " stature I have almost been tempted to take but
common sense wins out

I have not seen these plants for sale any ideas please


..............................Leslie





Sacha 26-02-2007 06:36 PM

Sacha help please
 
On 26/2/07 18:06, in article ,
"Leslie" wrote:

Hello Sacha

I live in Cornwall and I have seen in roadside hedges and field margins.

An almost black Iris of 20 " stature I have almost been tempted to take but
common sense wins out

I have not seen these plants for sale any ideas please

I am guessing at Siberian iris, Iris chrysographes, perhaps? I don't know
if it's truly wild or an escapee, though. The Iris foetidissima isn't dark
enough, probably. There are nurseries that do wild flowers so you might be
lucky enough to find one of yours, if it's truly a wild plant.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


Bob Hobden 26-02-2007 06:54 PM

Sacha help please
 

"Leslie" wrote
Hello Sacha

I live in Cornwall and I have seen in roadside hedges and field margins.

An almost black Iris of 20 " stature I have almost been tempted to take
but common sense wins out

I have not seen these plants for sale any ideas please


Of our two native Iris the only possibility is I. foetidissima (Stinking
Iris, Roast-beef plant, Gladdon, Bloody bones) but that normally would not
be described as black, however there are a number of ex-garden Iris that
have escaped and Hermodactylus tuberosa (Snakes head or Widow iris) is down
in the West Country.
http://home.planet.nl/~panurus/tuin/...Tuberosus.html


--
Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK



Sacha 26-02-2007 09:44 PM

Sacha help please
 
On 26/2/07 18:54, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote:


"Leslie" wrote
Hello Sacha

I live in Cornwall and I have seen in roadside hedges and field margins.

An almost black Iris of 20 " stature I have almost been tempted to take
but common sense wins out

I have not seen these plants for sale any ideas please


Of our two native Iris the only possibility is I. foetidissima (Stinking
Iris, Roast-beef plant, Gladdon, Bloody bones) but that normally would not
be described as black, however there are a number of ex-garden Iris that
have escaped and Hermodactylus tuberosa (Snakes head or Widow iris) is down
in the West Country.
http://home.planet.nl/~panurus/tuin/...Tuberosus.html

I don't believe this! I am amazed by the random of chance. Today, a friend
and customer brought us a little posy of just these. They are wonderful and
are delicately scented. She told us they are Iris tuberosa and she's some
gardener, I'll tell you! So we explored our books and we explored Google
and all those flowers were yellow, not the true and pure green of her
present and we have the yellow one. And now you've solved the problem. I
have them in a little vase on our kitchen table and said to Ray tonight "how
can I most easily describe these to get an ID". Bob, thank you very much!
But overcoming my own delight, this isn't black enough to be what Leslie is
looking for, I imagine?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


Bob Hobden 26-02-2007 11:10 PM

Sacha help please
 

"Sacha" wrote after "Bob
Hobden" replied to
"Leslie" who asked
Hello Sacha

I live in Cornwall and I have seen in roadside hedges and field margins.

An almost black Iris of 20 " stature I have almost been tempted to take
but common sense wins out

I have not seen these plants for sale any ideas please


Of our two native Iris the only possibility is I. foetidissima (Stinking
Iris, Roast-beef plant, Gladdon, Bloody bones) but that normally would
not
be described as black, however there are a number of ex-garden Iris that
have escaped and Hermodactylus tuberosa (Snakes head or Widow iris) is
down
in the West Country.
http://home.planet.nl/~panurus/tuin/...Tuberosus.html

I don't believe this! I am amazed by the random of chance. Today, a
friend
and customer brought us a little posy of just these. They are wonderful
and
are delicately scented. She told us they are Iris tuberosa and she's some
gardener, I'll tell you! So we explored our books and we explored Google
and all those flowers were yellow, not the true and pure green of her
present and we have the yellow one. And now you've solved the problem. I
have them in a little vase on our kitchen table and said to Ray tonight
"how
can I most easily describe these to get an ID". Bob, thank you very much!
But overcoming my own delight, this isn't black enough to be what Leslie
is
looking for, I imagine?


Now here's a thought, perhaps Leslie has found a pure black form.
What would that be worth?
--
Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK



Sacha 27-02-2007 07:22 AM

Sacha help please
 
On 26/2/07 23:10, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote:

snip
But overcoming my own delight, this isn't black enough to be what Leslie
is
looking for, I imagine?


Now here's a thought, perhaps Leslie has found a pure black form.
What would that be worth?


Hush! There won't be a hedgerow left unturned. ;-) But the word priceless
does spring to mind!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 27-02-2007 09:45 AM

Sacha help please
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 26/2/07 23:10, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote:

snip
But overcoming my own delight, this isn't black enough to be what Leslie
is
looking for, I imagine?


Now here's a thought, perhaps Leslie has found a pure black form.
What would that be worth?


Hush! There won't be a hedgerow left unturned. ;-) But the word
priceless
does spring to mind!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

You take the black Iris and I will have the totally white leaved unknown
thing.
They would look nice together in a vase at Chelsea.



Sacha 27-02-2007 09:57 AM

Sacha help please
 
On 27/2/07 09:45, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 26/2/07 23:10, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote:

snip
But overcoming my own delight, this isn't black enough to be what Leslie
is
looking for, I imagine?

Now here's a thought, perhaps Leslie has found a pure black form.
What would that be worth?


Hush! There won't be a hedgerow left unturned. ;-) But the word
priceless
does spring to mind!


You take the black Iris and I will have the totally white leaved unknown
thing.
They would look nice together in a vase at Chelsea.


Oh, I don't think so, Rupert. I want BOTH of them! ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


Leslie 27-02-2007 06:09 PM

Sacha help please
 
Hello again
I forgot to mention the iris is solitary

I have yet to see them standing in groups

I will have to wait for late spring and photograph them

....................Leslie

sach wrote in
message . uk...
On 27/2/07 09:45, in article , "Rupert
(W.Yorkshire)"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 26/2/07 23:10, in article
, "Bob
Hobden" wrote:

snip
But overcoming my own delight, this isn't black enough to be what
Leslie
is
looking for, I imagine?

Now here's a thought, perhaps Leslie has found a pure black form.
What would that be worth?

Hush! There won't be a hedgerow left unturned. ;-) But the word
priceless
does spring to mind!


You take the black Iris and I will have the totally white leaved unknown
thing.
They would look nice together in a vase at Chelsea.


Oh, I don't think so, Rupert. I want BOTH of them! ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)




Sacha 27-02-2007 06:11 PM

Sacha help please
 
On 27/2/07 18:09, in article , "Leslie"
wrote:

Hello again
I forgot to mention the iris is solitary

I have yet to see them standing in groups

I will have to wait for late spring and photograph them

snip

That does sound more like an escapee, doesn't it wildflower specialists?
A photograph would help - good idea.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)



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