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My gardening books advise digging an allotment and adding manure and lime in
the autumn or winter. The books also say that manure mustn't be added just before planting carrots and onions, and digging shouldn't be done just before planting brassicas. I didn't have any manure in the autumn but I do have some now. Is it too late to dig, manure and lime now? I'll probably be sowing and planting in a couple of weeks. Thanks. |
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Mel wrote:
: My gardening books advise digging an allotment and adding manure and : lime in the autumn or winter. The books also say that manure mustn't : be added just before planting carrots and onions, and digging : shouldn't be done just before planting brassicas. : : I didn't have any manure in the autumn but I do have some now. Is it : too late to dig, manure and lime now? I'll probably be sowing and : planting in a couple of weeks. : : Thanks. You can still do both but you general advice is not to manure and lime the same piece of ground in the same season as the lime will reduce the manure's effectiveness. I would manure it all and save the lime for brassica planting holes, or for next autumn |
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g'day mel,
no need to dig to have great gardens. ever thought of raised beds 'no-dig' method of gardening also 'no-weed & water-wise'. we have pics and description on our pages on how we do our gardens. On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:43:58 GMT, "Mel" wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len & bev -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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"Robert (Plymouth)" wrote Sacha wrote: : And - says the non veg grower - you don't want TOO much lime on land : for potatoes or you get scab - do I have that right? That's right Well you might not, but the spuds might. ;) -- Sue |
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"Mel" wrote My gardening books advise digging an allotment and adding manure and lime in the autumn or winter. The books also say that manure mustn't be added just before planting carrots and onions, and digging shouldn't be done just before planting brassicas. I didn't have any manure in the autumn but I do have some now. Is it too late to dig, manure and lime now? I'll probably be sowing and planting in a couple of weeks. What we do is to divide our veg plot into 4 so we have a 4 year rotation. In year one section 1 gets lots of manure and then is used for spuds, section 2 is limed and used for brassicas, section 3 is used for peas and beans* and section 4 is for onions and rootcrops*. The next year sees it all move round one so that last years manured potato plot is limed and used for brassicas etc. Basically only a quarter of the plot is manured each year and only a quarter is limed. * we do chuck on some Chicken manure pellets on these years. Having re-read that I do hope you can understand what I mean. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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On 18 Mar, 00:11, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Mel" wrote My gardening books advise digging an allotment and adding manure and lime in the autumn or winter. The books also say that manure mustn't be added just before planting carrots and onions, and digging shouldn't be done just before planting brassicas. I didn't have any manure in the autumn but I do have some now. Is it too late to dig, manure and lime now? I'll probably be sowing and planting in a couple of weeks. What we do is to divide our veg plot into 4 so we have a 4 year rotation. In year one section 1 gets lots of manure and then is used for spuds, section 2 is limed and used for brassicas, section 3 is used for peas and beans* and section 4 is for onions and rootcrops*. The next year sees it all move round one so that last years manured potato plot is limed and used for brassicas etc. Basically only a quarter of the plot is manured each year and only a quarter is limed. * we do chuck on some Chicken manure pellets on these years. Having re-read that I do hope you can understand what I mean. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK I was always taught that with crop rotation you followed your leguminous crops with a leafy crop such as cabbage etc as they benefited more from the nitrogen fixed into the soil by the legumes. David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
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"Dave Hill" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: in reply to "Mel" wrote My gardening books advise digging an allotment and adding manure and lime in the autumn or winter. The books also say that manure mustn't be added just before planting carrots and onions, and digging shouldn't be done just before planting brassicas. I didn't have any manure in the autumn but I do have some now. Is it too late to dig, manure and lime now? I'll probably be sowing and planting in a couple of weeks. What we do is to divide our veg plot into 4 so we have a 4 year rotation. In year one section 1 gets lots of manure and then is used for spuds, section 2 is limed and used for brassicas, section 3 is used for peas and beans* and section 4 is for onions and rootcrops*. The next year sees it all move round one so that last years manured potato plot is limed and used for brassicas etc. Basically only a quarter of the plot is manured each year and only a quarter is limed. * we do chuck on some Chicken manure pellets on these years. Having re-read that I do hope you can understand what I mean. I was always taught that with crop rotation you followed your leguminous crops with a leafy crop such as cabbage etc as they benefited more from the nitrogen fixed into the soil by the legumes. There seems to be as many variations as there are growers. I've seem what you say and a 5 year rotation 1 potatoes, 2 onions, 3 peas/beans, 4 brassicas, 5 roots etc. Personally I feel the cabbages benefit more from the last year's manure whereas the peas and beans don't need it so much because as you say they make their own, which in our rotation then helps next years onions/roots. Pays yer money.......... -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 17/3/07 18:09, in article , "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote: Mel wrote: : My gardening books advise digging an allotment and adding manure and : lime in the autumn or winter. The books also say that manure mustn't : be added just before planting carrots and onions, and digging : shouldn't be done just before planting brassicas. : : I didn't have any manure in the autumn but I do have some now. Is it : too late to dig, manure and lime now? I'll probably be sowing and : planting in a couple of weeks. : : Thanks. You can still do both but you general advice is not to manure and lime the same piece of ground in the same season as the lime will reduce the manure's effectiveness. I would manure it all and save the lime for brassica planting holes, or for next autumn And - says the non veg grower - you don't want TOO much lime on land for potatoes or you get scab - do I have that right? Talking about potatoes, how the hell can you stop the slugs getting at the tubers, but nothing expensive! Alan |
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"Alan Holmes" wrote Talking about potatoes, how the hell can you stop the slugs getting at the tubers, but nothing expensive! As I've said many times before... choose a slug resistant variety, that's the cheapest and most effective method. Kestral (SE) is well known for it's slug resistance and is a good spud and keeps longer than you expect. It's offspring Spey (MC) is also good and very similar, although can get spraing. Romano (EMC) red is a nice spud too and keeps well. There are others. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Alan Holmes" wrote Talking about potatoes, how the hell can you stop the slugs getting at the tubers, but nothing expensive! As I've said many times before... choose a slug resistant variety, that's the cheapest and most effective method. Kestral (SE) is well known for it's slug resistance and is a good spud and keeps longer than you expect. It's offspring Spey (MC) is also good and very similar, although can get spraing. Romano (EMC) red is a nice spud too and keeps well. There are others. Thanks, must try to remember those varieties, but will I be able to just buy 8 of each, or will I have to buy a huge bag full? Alan |
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"Alan Holmes" wrote after "Bob Hobden" rambled on after "Alan Holmes" wrote Talking about potatoes, how the hell can you stop the slugs getting at the tubers, but nothing expensive! As I've said many times before... choose a slug resistant variety, that's the cheapest and most effective method. Kestral (SE) is well known for it's slug resistance and is a good spud and keeps longer than you expect. It's offspring Spey (MC) is also good and very similar, although can get spraing. Romano (EMC) red is a nice spud too and keeps well. There are others. Thanks, must try to remember those varieties, but will I be able to just buy 8 of each, or will I have to buy a huge bag full? If you go to a Potato Day (too late for this year) you would be able to. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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