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Ipomoea seed
I have drawn a complete blank on obtaining any seed of the species I am looking for, and should appreciate any pointers. Please DON'T bother to point me at seed catalogues that use the names, as these species are misclassified even in herbarium catalogues :-( I am looking for things that have at least a HOPE of being the right ones! They a I. hederacea, I.nil, I. purpurea and I. pes-tigridis. I. indica (a.k.a. learii, a.k.a. acuminata); it is self-sterile but I believe that viable seed can be produced by crossing two geographic varieties. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 30/3/07 14:12, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote: I have drawn a complete blank on obtaining any seed of the species I am looking for, and should appreciate any pointers. Please DON'T bother to point me at seed catalogues that use the names, as these species are misclassified even in herbarium catalogues :-( I am looking for things that have at least a HOPE of being the right ones! They a I. hederacea, I.nil, I. purpurea and I. pes-tigridis. I. indica (a.k.a. learii, a.k.a. acuminata); it is self-sterile but I believe that viable seed can be produced by crossing two geographic varieties. I know you said "no catalogues" but I assume you have tried Secret Seeds somewhere near Tiverton, Devon? They have Ipomoea purpurea, I. purpurea 'Milky Way', plus some others you're not looking for. http://www.secretseeds.com/acatalog/I.html -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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In article , Sacha writes: | | I know you said "no catalogues" but I assume you have tried Secret Seeds | somewhere near Tiverton, Devon? | They have Ipomoea purpurea, I. purpurea 'Milky Way', plus some others you're | not looking for. | http://www.secretseeds.com/acatalog/I.html Thanks. I hadn't, but I am not very convinced that they have it right. For example, "Milky Way" is classified as I. tricolor, I. purpurea and I. nil by different catalogues. I grew some purportedly I. purpurea seeds last year, and don't think that they were. I believe that most catalogues assign species names at random to this group of morning glories, which is justifiable because most botanists don't do much better! Also, for other reasons, that is the one that least interests me :-( Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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... In article , Sacha writes: | | I know you said "no catalogues" but I assume you have tried Secret Seeds | somewhere near Tiverton, Devon? | They have Ipomoea purpurea, I. purpurea 'Milky Way', plus some others you're | not looking for. | http://www.secretseeds.com/acatalog/I.html Thanks. I hadn't, but I am not very convinced that they have it right. For example, "Milky Way" is classified as I. tricolor, I. purpurea and I. nil by different catalogues. I grew some purportedly I. purpurea seeds last year, and don't think that they were. I believe that most catalogues assign species names at random to this group of morning glories, which is justifiable because most botanists don't do much better! Also, for other reasons, that is the one that least interests me :-( Regards, Nick Maclaren. I suppose Thompson & Morgan might also have the same problem....or not. Who knows? |
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In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" writes: | | I suppose Thompson & Morgan might also have the same problem....or not. Who | knows? They do, redoubled in spades. Look at their entries for Ipomoea; they can't even work out whether I. nil and I. imperialis are species or crosses. If I recall, I bought their "Scarlett O'Hara" and it most definitely wasn't - though it was the right colour. B and T World Seeds do a LOT better, but I have never dealt with them, and their Web pricing is, er, bizarre. As they are expensive and not just perverse, I am a bit cautious. Does anyone know how good they are? Particularly the accuracy of their classifications, and the viability of their seed (though Ipomoea isn't usually a problem there). [*] Actually, I. imperialis is a superseded name for I. nil. While I. hederacea is currently regarded as different, it has been made a synonym of I. nil in the past. Anyone who says that I. tricolor, and either I. purpurea or I. nil are synonyms is probably confused. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" writes: | | I suppose Thompson & Morgan might also have the same problem....or not. Who | knows? They do, redoubled in spades. Look at their entries for Ipomoea; they can't even work out whether I. nil and I. imperialis are species or crosses. If I recall, I bought their "Scarlett O'Hara" and it most definitely wasn't - though it was the right colour. B and T World Seeds do a LOT better, but I have never dealt with them, and their Web pricing is, er, bizarre. As they are expensive and not just perverse, I am a bit cautious. Does anyone know how good they are? Particularly the accuracy of their classifications, and the viability of their seed (though Ipomoea isn't usually a problem there). [*] Actually, I. imperialis is a superseded name for I. nil. While I. hederacea is currently regarded as different, it has been made a synonym of I. nil in the past. Anyone who says that I. tricolor, and either I. purpurea or I. nil are synonyms is probably confused. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Your comments are correct about B and T but they do have a good reputation and supposedly supply fresher seed than most. You may have to wait the odd week for supplies. I have not bought Ipomea but their musa seeds performed reasonably well. |
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On 30/3/07 14:41, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote: In article , Sacha writes: | | I know you said "no catalogues" but I assume you have tried Secret Seeds | somewhere near Tiverton, Devon? | They have Ipomoea purpurea, I. purpurea 'Milky Way', plus some others you're | not looking for. | http://www.secretseeds.com/acatalog/I.html Thanks. I hadn't, but I am not very convinced that they have it right. For example, "Milky Way" is classified as I. tricolor, I. purpurea and I. nil by different catalogues. I grew some purportedly I. purpurea seeds last year, and don't think that they were. I believe that most catalogues assign species names at random to this group of morning glories, which is justifiable because most botanists don't do much better! Also, for other reasons, that is the one that least interests me :-( Can't help otherwise, I'm afraid because we have only I. learii and the annual one. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/ (remove weeds from address) |
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Thanks to Rupert and Sacha. I may try B&T. Incidentally, the common one in the UK is I. tricolor, which is fairly easy to distinguish from the I. nil complex (including purpurea, nil, hederacea and indica). It has glabrous stems, where the others are hairy, and its sepals are different. I have no idea why it should get so badly confused. The common ones in the USA are purpurea and hederacea, just to confuse the issue. And I suspect that they are also more common around the Mediterranean. The 'purpurea' seed that I tried was definitely mostly tricolor. The "Scarlett O'Hara" was one of the I. nil complex and scarlet but was NOT what it said it was, and was a miserable plant! This might have been because it WAS nil (nearly as tropical as indica), and there was a typical mediocre summer. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Nick, I replied to your query about restaurants in another group but the two groups that you were posting to, only 1 would accept my reply so I am not sure if you have seen it on group or not, if not, email me and I will send you the same info. It's not too off-topic as you will be eating vegetables at the restaurants!! Judith |
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I get mine from Ebay.
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In article , Sacha
writes assume you have tried Secret Seeds somewhere near Tiverton, Devon? They have Ipomoea purpurea, I. purpurea 'Milky Way', I grew Milky Way about three years ago, looked like bindweed climbing up the trellis next to the front door and I wasn't impressed! -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On 30 Mar, 21:53, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Sacha writes assume you have tried Secret Seeds somewhere near Tiverton, Devon? They have Ipomoea purpurea, I. purpurea 'Milky Way', I grew Milky Way about three years ago, looked like bindweed climbing up the trellis next to the front door and I wasn't impressed! -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk Have you looked at these people? http://www.banana-tree.com/catalog~S...ategory~12.cfm I have had some seeds from them and good service and no great postage costs. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. |
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