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Keith \(Dorset\) 15-04-2007 12:53 AM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 
I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she doesn't
compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.

I have always composted ours.

Any comments please?



Robert \(Plymouth\) 15-04-2007 08:22 AM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 

"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message
...
:I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't
: compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.
:
: I have always composted ours.
:
: Any comments please?
:
I always compost ours, that's an old tale that gains momentum every so often



'Mike' 15-04-2007 08:35 AM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 

"Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
...

"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message
...
:I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't
: compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.
:
: I have always composted ours.
:
: Any comments please?
:
I always compost ours, that's an old tale that gains momentum every so
often



We compost ours too. No probs :-))

Mike


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'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk



[email protected] 15-04-2007 10:30 AM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:53:28 +0100, "Keith \(Dorset\)"
wrote:

I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she doesn't
compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.

I have always composted ours.

Any comments please?


If you have a huge pile of them and nothing else, they would produce
compost too acid to apply to acid-hating plants. But mixed with other
ingredients there will not be a problem. The key to good compost is
always to use a variety of different ingredients.

Alan Holmes[_2_] 15-04-2007 10:54 AM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 

"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message
...
I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.

I have always composted ours.


I don't think I have ever had any trouble composting mine!

Alan



Alan Holmes[_2_] 15-04-2007 10:55 AM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 

"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message
...
I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.

I have always composted ours.

Any comments please?




Alan Holmes[_2_] 15-04-2007 10:56 AM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 

"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message
...
I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.

I have always composted ours.


As an aside, one should NEVER eat the leaves.

During WW11 it was reported that some people had tried, as there was a
shortage of some food.

Alan




Robert \(Plymouth\) 15-04-2007 02:36 PM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 

wrote in message
...
: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:53:28 +0100, "Keith \(Dorset\)"
: wrote:
:
: I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't
: compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.
:
: I have always composted ours.
:
: Any comments please?
:
:
: If you have a huge pile of them and nothing else, they would produce
: compost too acid to apply to acid-hating plants. But mixed with other
: ingredients there will not be a problem. The key to good compost is
: always to use a variety of different ingredients.

I don't think that's right, it doesn't necessarily make acid compost



[email protected] 15-04-2007 05:20 PM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:36:01 +0100, "Robert \(Plymouth\)"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:53:28 +0100, "Keith \(Dorset\)"
: wrote:
:
: I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't
: compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.
:
: I have always composted ours.
:
: Any comments please?
:
:
: If you have a huge pile of them and nothing else, they would produce
: compost too acid to apply to acid-hating plants. But mixed with other
: ingredients there will not be a problem. The key to good compost is
: always to use a variety of different ingredients.

I don't think that's right, it doesn't necessarily make acid compost


Where does all the oxalic acid from the leaves go then? If it's well
mixed and diluted with other material it will break down, but a pile
of rhubarb only will stay acid for a considerable time.
I do agree that the warning on the TV programme was over-emphasised.

La Puce 15-04-2007 05:58 PM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 
On 15 Apr, 14:36, "Robert \(Plymouth\)" beachcom...@ultimate-
anonymity.com wrote:
: I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't
: compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.
: I have always composted ours.
: Any comments please?


: If you have a huge pile of them and nothing else, they would produce
: compost too acid to apply to acid-hating plants. But mixed with other
: ingredients there will not be a problem. The key to good compost is
: always to use a variety of different ingredients.

I don't think that's right, it doesn't necessarily make acid compost


Hmmm... yes and no I would say. I think there's a confusion with the
oxalate acid that the rhubarb produces (as well as spinach, beets,
strawberries, wheat bran, nuts ...). Once fully decomposed the leaves
loose their oxalate and therefore are ok. I'd agree that compost made
of a single pile of stuff wouldn't be a good idea, (beside leaves or
mushrooms), but I've always composted our rhubarb leaves and I've
never had any problem, though I mix a variety of stuff with it.


K 15-04-2007 06:09 PM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 
writes

Where does all the oxalic acid from the leaves go then? If it's well
mixed and diluted with other material it will break down, but a pile
of rhubarb only will stay acid for a considerable time.
I do agree that the warning on the TV programme was over-emphasised.


The theory in the body is that it reacts with calcium to form calcium
oxalate. So presumably it will react fairly easily with any slightly
alkaline part of the surrounding soil.

By the time it's broken down enough to be used as compost, I'd be
surprised if it was noticeably acid.
--
Kay

Keith \(Dorset\) 15-04-2007 07:56 PM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 
Thanks everyone, for the reassurance. My compost has 'seemed' to be not far
from perfect for a while now.

I am not trying to be clever, but since I have used wooden box frames, kept
a wide mixture of ingredients, placed old glazed windows over the tops to
enable the compost to warm... and added a little nitrogen, (in one form or
another).

Kept aerated by turning every month or so, it comes out great after not many
months at all.

Keith



"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message
...
I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.

I have always composted ours.

Any comments please?




[email protected] 15-04-2007 09:04 PM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:09:16 +0100, K wrote:

writes

Where does all the oxalic acid from the leaves go then? If it's well
mixed and diluted with other material it will break down, but a pile
of rhubarb only will stay acid for a considerable time.
I do agree that the warning on the TV programme was over-emphasised.


The theory in the body is that it reacts with calcium to form calcium
oxalate. So presumably it will react fairly easily with any slightly
alkaline part of the surrounding soil.

By the time it's broken down enough to be used as compost, I'd be
surprised if it was noticeably acid.


Certainly! Mixed with other ingredients to get sufficient calcium it
would be harmless.

suspicious minds 16-04-2007 01:04 AM

Composting Rhubarb leaves.
 

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:36:01 +0100, "Robert \(Plymouth\)"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:53:28 +0100, "Keith \(Dorset\)"
: wrote:
:
: I was watching the TV earlier tonight and an 'allotmenteer' said she
doesn't
: compost rhubarb leaves because they are too acid.
:
: I have always composted ours.
:
: Any comments please?
:
:
: If you have a huge pile of them and nothing else, they would produce
: compost too acid to apply to acid-hating plants. But mixed with other
: ingredients there will not be a problem. The key to good compost is
: always to use a variety of different ingredients.

I don't think that's right, it doesn't necessarily make acid compost


Where does all the oxalic acid from the leaves go then?


The oxalate is decomposed by microorganisms
http://www.geocities.com/oxalate2000/index.html




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