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Today, I heard a piece of Devon gardening folklore that was new to both me
and Ray. "Don't put out your bedding until after the first full moon in
May". Anyone know whether this can be backed up by experience?
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On 26 Apr, 22:32, Sacha wrote:
Today, I heard a piece of Devon gardening folklore that was new to both me
and Ray. "Don't put out your bedding until after the first full moon in
May". Anyone know whether this can be backed up by experience?
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I have found that first and last frosts almost always happen 3 days
either side of full moon when you have a clear sky, you can get a
radiation frost.
When I lived in Hastings in the late 50's and the early 60's, we
reconed first frost could be last full moon in Sept. and the last
could be as late as the first full moon in June, but things have
warmed up a little since those days.
Here in South Wales I am finding Last full moon in Oct and first full
moon in May.
This is why we used to sow runner beans at the beginning of May and
once they were through we would inter sow another batch of seed so
that if the first ones got frosted there was a back up set already
starting.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.

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Today, I heard a piece of Devon gardening folklore that was new to both me
and Ray. "Don't put out your bedding until after the first full moon in
May". Anyone know whether this can be backed up by experience?

The moon doesn't affect the weather.
I prefer this saying:

The moon and the weather may change together,
But a change in the moon does not change the weather.

Col

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On 28/4/07 09:41, in article , "Col"
wrote:

The moon and the weather may change together,
But a change in the moon does not change the weather

Yes, it's good. But I don't believe it. ;-) We see too many weather
changes with moon changes. And do you think the equinoxes affect the
weather?

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I have nothing to contribute on the moon v planting out theme but just had
to say I love your new sig Sacha.

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Thank you, Mike. ;-)


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On 28/4/07 09:41, in article , "Col"
wrote:

The moon and the weather may change together,
But a change in the moon does not change the weather

Yes, it's good. But I don't believe it. ;-) We see too many weather
changes with moon changes. And do you think the equinoxes affect the
weather?


The British weather changes frequently, as does the moon.
It's not surprising that they are seen to change together, especially
if you are looking for it. But you probably won't notice it if the
weather changes if the moon hasn't. It's just coincidence.

As for the equinoxes, well that's just anpurely astronomical
phenomenon as the sun appears to move from the Northern
to Southern hemisphere, or vice versa. Such a transition cannot
possibly affect the weather.

Col

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On 29/4/07 07:29, in article , "Col"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 28/4/07 09:41, in article , "Col"
wrote:

The moon and the weather may change together,
But a change in the moon does not change the weather

Yes, it's good. But I don't believe it. ;-) We see too many weather
changes with moon changes. And do you think the equinoxes affect the
weather?


The British weather changes frequently, as does the moon.
It's not surprising that they are seen to change together, especially
if you are looking for it. But you probably won't notice it if the
weather changes if the moon hasn't. It's just coincidence.

As for the equinoxes, well that's just anpurely astronomical
phenomenon as the sun appears to move from the Northern
to Southern hemisphere, or vice versa. Such a transition cannot
possibly affect the weather.

And yet people who sail will often notice a change in the weather during the
equinox - equinoctial gales are infamous. I don't have any explanation for
it, I've simply observed it many times. It's a bit like labour ward staff
who remark that there's a sudden influx of women in labour around the time
of the full moon - but that's a form of propagation that's OT for urg! ;-)


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In message , Sacha
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On 29/4/07 07:29, in article , "Col"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 28/4/07 09:41, in article , "Col"
wrote:

The moon and the weather may change together,
But a change in the moon does not change the weather

Yes, it's good. But I don't believe it. ;-) We see too many weather
changes with moon changes. And do you think the equinoxes affect the
weather?


The British weather changes frequently, as does the moon.
It's not surprising that they are seen to change together, especially
if you are looking for it. But you probably won't notice it if the
weather changes if the moon hasn't. It's just coincidence.

As for the equinoxes, well that's just anpurely astronomical
phenomenon as the sun appears to move from the Northern
to Southern hemisphere, or vice versa. Such a transition cannot
possibly affect the weather.

And yet people who sail will often notice a change in the weather during the
equinox - equinoctial gales are infamous. I don't have any explanation for
it, I've simply observed it many times. It's a bit like labour ward staff
who remark that there's a sudden influx of women in labour around the time
of the full moon - but that's a form of propagation that's OT for urg! ;-)

Weather conditions vary seasonally, and the equinoxes are fixed with
respect to the seasons, so it's not surprising that certain weather
conditions are correlated with the equinoxes. (I think Col had his
tongue in his cheek.)

The phases of the moon are not tied to the seasons, and there's no
obvious mechanism for it to effect the weather. However, somewhat to my
surprise, I find that there are papers reporting a correlation between
rainfall and phase of the moon in the US (with different phase
relationships in different regions).

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On 29/4/07 08:53, in article lid, "Stewart
Robert
Hinsley" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
snip

And yet people who sail will often notice a change in the weather during
the
equinox - equinoctial gales are infamous. I don't have any explanation
for
it, I've simply observed it many times. It's a bit like labour ward
staff
who remark that there's a sudden influx of women in labour around the
time
of the full moon - but that's a form of propagation that's OT for urg!
;-)

Weather conditions vary seasonally, and the equinoxes are fixed with
respect to the seasons, so it's not surprising that certain weather
conditions are correlated with the equinoxes. (I think Col had his
tongue in his cheek.)

The phases of the moon are not tied to the seasons, and there's no
obvious mechanism for it to effect the weather. However, somewhat to my
surprise, I find that there are papers reporting a correlation between
rainfall and phase of the moon in the US (with different phase
relationships in different regions).

See? There are things we know not of. ;-) Some time ago, I was at lunch
with some friends and my fellow guests were a retired Admiral and his
wife.
He's also a keen sailor of somewhat smaller boats! Having had a really
awful sail from Turkey to Cyprus when my skipper "got the date wrong" at
the
equinox (!) I thought that here I had my expert witness. I asked him if
he'd ever observed this equinox effect and he said "Often but I have no
idea
how or why it happens". Which was kind of reassuring and disappointing at
the same time. So perhaps we have to put it down as something
inexplicable
- just one of those things that we know happens but nobody can explain.

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That is http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk which Hubbard is advertising. Well
worth a look and full of lots of interesting information from lots of
sights.



Go and take a peek over the fence.



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On 29/4/07 08:53, in article lid, "Stewart Robert
Hinsley" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
snip

And yet people who sail will often notice a change in the weather during the
equinox - equinoctial gales are infamous. I don't have any explanation for
it, I've simply observed it many times. It's a bit like labour ward staff
who remark that there's a sudden influx of women in labour around the time
of the full moon - but that's a form of propagation that's OT for urg! ;-)

Weather conditions vary seasonally, and the equinoxes are fixed with
respect to the seasons, so it's not surprising that certain weather
conditions are correlated with the equinoxes. (I think Col had his
tongue in his cheek.)

The phases of the moon are not tied to the seasons, and there's no
obvious mechanism for it to effect the weather. However, somewhat to my
surprise, I find that there are papers reporting a correlation between
rainfall and phase of the moon in the US (with different phase
relationships in different regions).

See? There are things we know not of. ;-) Some time ago, I was at lunch
with some friends and my fellow guests were a retired Admiral and his wife.
He's also a keen sailor of somewhat smaller boats! Having had a really
awful sail from Turkey to Cyprus when my skipper "got the date wrong" at the
equinox (!) I thought that here I had my expert witness. I asked him if
he'd ever observed this equinox effect and he said "Often but I have no idea
how or why it happens". Which was kind of reassuring and disappointing at
the same time. So perhaps we have to put it down as something inexplicable
- just one of those things that we know happens but nobody can explain.

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:17:21 +0100, "'Mike'" wrote
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That is http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk which Hubbard is advertising. Well
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On 29/4/07 07:29, in article , "Col"



The British weather changes frequently, as does the moon.
It's not surprising that they are seen to change together, especially
if you are looking for it. But you probably won't notice it if the
weather changes if the moon hasn't. It's just coincidence.

As for the equinoxes, well that's just anpurely astronomical
phenomenon as the sun appears to move from the Northern
to Southern hemisphere, or vice versa. Such a transition cannot
possibly affect the weather.

And yet people who sail will often notice a change in the weather during
the
equinox - equinoctial gales are infamous. I don't have any explanation
for
it, I've simply observed it many times. It's a bit like labour ward staff
who remark that there's a sudden influx of women in labour around the time
of the full moon - but that's a form of propagation that's OT for urg! ;-)

There is likely to be a generral change in the couple of weeks
around the autumn equinox to cooler and more unsetled conditions.
However that's just because autumn is coming on.
Nothing special happens specifically on the day of the equinox just
because the sun happens to have moved south of the equator.

Col

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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
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Weather conditions vary seasonally, and the equinoxes are fixed with
respect to the seasons, so it's not surprising that certain weather
conditions are correlated with the equinoxes. (I think Col had his tongue
in his cheek.)

Not at all.
There is a general change just because the seasons are changing
but nothing happens at that particular moment.

Col