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Coverage of Chelsea
In article , Sacha
writes What did everyone think of last night's tv programme? As always, we became very irritated with the number of plants whose name didn't appear onscreen, though that improved when Carol Klein was in the marquee. But why oh why do they, every year, take us away from Chelsea and off to other locations? Chelsea is Chelsea. The off-Chelsea interviewer irritates me, he seems to be there just for 'media' interest' and always has a rather silly inane script, asking damn fool questions and being seen to do 'media' things which they probably think interest 'average' viewers. Get a gardener to visit these nurseries etc, I think he's an excellent presenter but I did not welcome the mercifully brief appearance of Diarmuid Gavin. I don't like his style, I don't like anything about him! He seems to be an inverted gardening snob, pushing hard landscaping against real flowers any day Fair do's if people want an outside room but this is the RHS and a plant show for God's sake................ bet his garden is perfectly normal. I take it he didn't win any major prizes........... Perhaps we could have some gardening presenters who actually like flowers and trees etc. I don't think he's a gardener and I find him incomprehensible. Quite! We thought the Chinese garden was really beautiful. We loved that mossy wall effect, though I've just read the feng shui is 'bad' - can't say I really understand all that! I loved the Perrier garden from what I saw on television but most shots were irritating close-ups but not the entire garden! If the gardens had to be entirely recyclable after the event then what on earth is going to happen to those monstrous stone edifices all over the place? used for ballast in some new by-pass? Do not like Mars - surely Chelsea is about the quality of the plants not the dreaded 'designer ' stuff. I t was telling that the entire judging panel was made up of Designers rather than horticulturalists and similar. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
Coverage of Chelsea
In article , Sacha
writes Happened again this evening.... Somehow, this year's coverage just isn't grabbing our attention. I awoke to Chris Beardshaw waxing eloquent and enthusiastic about grasses and gave up! I wish I knew enough to figure out what's happening. Is it the presenters - doubt it because not many changes there - is it the format? I'm taping the afternoon programmes and the ones on The gardening channel in the mornings etc. They all have a slightly different flavour though I can't understand Lorraine Kelly's accent:) At least you get to see different views of the plants. I believe there are podcasts as well? Good thing about Sky, I can sit down at any time and watch, then re run them if I nod off or lose interest :) -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
Coverage of Chelsea
"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... What did everyone think of last night's tv programme? As always, we became very irritated with the number of plants whose name didn't appear onscreen, though that improved when Carol Klein was in the marquee. But why oh why do they, every year, take us away from Chelsea and off to other locations? Chelsea is Chelsea. All those other places they show could be the subject of another series of gardening programmes. I have no particular dislike of Lawrence L-B but can't help wondering why he, an interior designer, has been recruited to present a programme on Chelsea. Alan Titchmarsh did his usual professional job - I think he's an excellent presenter but I did not welcome the mercifully brief appearance of Diarmuid Gavin. I don't like his style, I don't think he's a gardener and I find him incomprehensible. We thought the Chinese garden was really beautiful. We loved that mossy wall effect, though I've just read the feng shui is 'bad' - can't say I really understand all that! While I do think the presentation of Chelsea has improved immeasurably over the past couple of years, I really don't understand why the programme makers are frightened of making it just about Chelsea and of putting plant names on screen. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) Personally I wish they would show as many plants as possible with the names on the screen. No need for anyone to talk at all. Must say I've been watching on BBC HD and the picture is breath taking. |
Coverage of Chelsea
On 24/5/07 09:04, in article ,
"Draven" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message . uk... snip While I do think the presentation of Chelsea has improved immeasurably over the past couple of years, I really don't understand why the programme makers are frightened of making it just about Chelsea and of putting plant names on screen. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) Personally I wish they would show as many plants as possible with the names on the screen. No need for anyone to talk at all. Must say I've been watching on BBC HD and the picture is breath taking. We've got a telly that does do that/will do that. Do we have to do anything in particular to 'switch on to it', or is it there already?! Daft question, I know but I'm getting to the stage of needing a spare 5 year old around the house to programme everything! As far as coverage of Chelsea goes, the only thing that's going to improve it is the reaction of the viewers at home. I may say that we felt precisely the same about Spotlight South West's coverage of the Devon County Show. They didn't once visit the Flower and Garden Show marquee nor AFAIK, the Dog Show marquee. At the very end of the last day's coverage, they had some silly 'cook off' contest involving 3 of the presenters and some local chefs. The time could have been much better spent showing the missed aspects of the Show including more of the food producers who were there. Instead, it was the dreaded celebrity joshing and "let's all have larks together" stuff that is just cringe-making, IMO. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) |
Coverage of Chelsea
On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:18:01 +0100, Sacha wrote:
Must say I've been watching on BBC HD and the picture is breath taking. We've got a telly that does do that/will do that. Do we have to do anything in particular to 'switch on to it', or is it there already?! I don't think there are any terrestial HD transmissions outside of London yet. So you'll need a HD capable digital sattelite receiver. http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/digitaltv/faq_hd.shtml -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
Coverage of Chelsea
"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 24/5/07 09:04, in article , "Draven" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message . uk... snip While I do think the presentation of Chelsea has improved immeasurably over the past couple of years, I really don't understand why the programme makers are frightened of making it just about Chelsea and of putting plant names on screen. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) Personally I wish they would show as many plants as possible with the names on the screen. No need for anyone to talk at all. Must say I've been watching on BBC HD and the picture is breath taking. We've got a telly that does do that/will do that. Do we have to do anything in particular to 'switch on to it', or is it there already?! Daft question, I know but I'm getting to the stage of needing a spare 5 year old around the house to programme everything! As far as coverage of Chelsea goes, the only thing that's going to improve it is the reaction of the viewers at home. I may say that we felt precisely the same about Spotlight South West's coverage of the Devon County Show. They didn't once visit the Flower and Garden Show marquee nor AFAIK, the Dog Show marquee. At the very end of the last day's coverage, they had some silly 'cook off' contest involving 3 of the presenters and some local chefs. The time could have been much better spent showing the missed aspects of the Show including more of the food producers who were there. Instead, it was the dreaded celebrity joshing and "let's all have larks together" stuff that is just cringe-making, IMO. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) You'll need a Sky+ box or a V+ (Virgin Media box). I've got the latter. On VM it's channel 108. I've recorded them all, so far, on the V+ box so I can get what names have been shown. I loved the rose show but yet again they fleeted over the stand and only showed a few of the display. |
Coverage of Chelsea
On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:38:18 +0100, Sacha wrote:
We have a Sky box but are going to swap it for one of those BBC boxes. We find the only thing we watch on Sky is UK TV Gold, which is ridiculous! What do you mean by "one of those BBC boxes?" Your Sky box will continue to work once any subscription has run out as a "Freesat from Sky" box, it will receive all the Free To Air stuff (ie all BBC and ITV offerings) and also the Free To View channesl (Channel 4 and five). Without a card from Sky you won't be able to get the last two. Obviously it won't be HD but then I don't think there is a "Freesat from the BBC/ITV" HD box available yet. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
Coverage of Chelsea
On 23 May, 12:31, Janet Tweedy wrote:
(snipette) It was telling that the entire judging panel was made up of Designers rather than horticulturalists and similar. Then this site is for you. All your questions answered and more. http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/talkwales...d_220501.shtml And in this month The Garden there's an article about Roy Keating controller of BBC2. He's been asked lots of questions about our favourite gardening programmes. In the September issue, The Garden will do an article with Carol Klein and we are invited to ask her questions for that issue especially. That's our chance to ask our burning question, did she or did she not grow potatoes before the programme .... ;o) But if I may add, I wish we would not always assumed that garden designers are not gardeners. Very often they are, many are architects too and many are artists. I think the fusion of all, especially gardeners and artists collaborations results in fantastic gardens. Chelsea is trying to appeal to everyone, not only gardeners. And times are changing ... |
Coverage of Chelsea
On 24/5/07 22:09, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: On 23 May, 12:31, Janet Tweedy wrote: (snipette) It was telling that the entire judging panel was made up of Designers rather than horticulturalists and similar. Then this site is for you. All your questions answered and more. http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/talkwales...g/diarmuid_220 501.shtml And in this month The Garden there's an article about Roy Keating controller of BBC2. He's been asked lots of questions about our favourite gardening programmes. In the September issue, The Garden will do an article with Carol Klein and we are invited to ask her questions for that issue especially. That's our chance to ask our burning question, did she or did she not grow potatoes before the programme .... ;o) But if I may add, I wish we would not always assumed that garden designers are not gardeners. Very often they are, many are architects too and many are artists. I think the fusion of all, especially gardeners and artists collaborations results in fantastic gardens. Chelsea is trying to appeal to everyone, not only gardeners. And times are changing ... All are judged on their merits. Some, we know from experience, are not plantsmen or women. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) |
Coverage of Chelsea
On 24/5/07 19:23, in article
, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:38:18 +0100, Sacha wrote: We have a Sky box but are going to swap it for one of those BBC boxes. We find the only thing we watch on Sky is UK TV Gold, which is ridiculous! What do you mean by "one of those BBC boxes?" Your Sky box will continue to work once any subscription has run out as a "Freesat from Sky" box, it will receive all the Free To Air stuff (ie all BBC and ITV offerings) and also the Free To View channesl (Channel 4 and five). Without a card from Sky you won't be able to get the last two. Obviously it won't be HD but then I don't think there is a "Freesat from the BBC/ITV" HD box available yet. I'll look at the Beeb box tomorrow and email you (if I may) as to what it is. We're planning to keep Sky but reduce our subscription considerably, if the packages will allow us to do so. If not, we'll be rid of it. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) |
Coverage of Chelsea
On 24 May, 22:29, Sacha wrote:
On 24/5/07 22:09, in article . com, "La Puce" But if I may add, I wish we would not always assumed that garden designers are not gardeners. Very often they are, many are architects too and many are artists. I think the fusion of all, especially gardeners and artists collaborations results in fantastic gardens. Chelsea is trying to appeal to everyone, not only gardeners. And times are changing ... All are judged on their merits. Some, we know from experience, are not plantsmen or women. Indeed they're judged on their merits - and that's a matter of personnal taste combined with knowledge of garden styles. The comments we've read or heard are usually about the design, about materials used, about structures and colours and shapes, (and that's not only about the wardrobe and hair style of the designer/presenter/ gardener ...(sic). I've heard little comments about planting if at all - it's always about 'did she/he knows how to propagate or grow a potatoe?'. To me that's like asking if an architect knows how to mix mortar. Perhaps he/she did at sometimes, but that's not what he/she does now. On this basis, and the fact that I've got a dissertation to write, I would be ever so grateful to know the garden designers some of you know who are not gardeners/plantsmen or plantswomen. I can't think of any and my bibliography is getting in the hundreds now. |
Coverage of Chelsea
"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 24/5/07 22:09, in article , "La Puce" wrote: On 23 May, 12:31, Janet Tweedy wrote: (snipette) It was telling that the entire judging panel was made up of Designers rather than horticulturalists and similar. Then this site is for you. All your questions answered and more. http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/talkwales...g/diarmuid_220 501.shtml And in this month The Garden there's an article about Roy Keating controller of BBC2. He's been asked lots of questions about our favourite gardening programmes. In the September issue, The Garden will do an article with Carol Klein and we are invited to ask her questions for that issue especially. That's our chance to ask our burning question, did she or did she not grow potatoes before the programme .... ;o) But if I may add, I wish we would not always assumed that garden designers are not gardeners. Very often they are, many are architects too and many are artists. I think the fusion of all, especially gardeners and artists collaborations results in fantastic gardens. Chelsea is trying to appeal to everyone, not only gardeners. And times are changing ... All are judged on their merits. Some, we know from experience, are not plantsmen or women. Oddly enough Diarmuid Gavin gets alot of stick for not seeming to like plants but he actually does. I know some people (gardeners) who know him and he served his time as a horticulturalist and working in garden shops and as a gardener. He knows as much about plants as anyone. I hate his Chelsea Show appearances but I love his crazy gardens and I used to love his daft show with L.L.B. Des -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) |
Coverage of Chelsea
On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:38:18 +0100, Sacha
wrote: We have a Sky box but are going to swap it for one of those BBC boxes. We find the only thing we watch on Sky is UK TV Gold, which is ridiculous! I cannot get UK TV Gold on my Freeview box. Most annoying. Pam in Bristol |
Coverage of Chelsea
On 25/5/07 17:07, in article ,
"Pam Moore" wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:38:18 +0100, Sacha wrote: We have a Sky box but are going to swap it for one of those BBC boxes. We find the only thing we watch on Sky is UK TV Gold, which is ridiculous! I cannot get UK TV Gold on my Freeview box. Most annoying. Pam in Bristol So I'm told. What we think we'll do is reduce the Sky subscription as drastically as we can so as to retain UK TV Gold and use the Beeb box. But it rankles slightly to pay to watch programmes we've already paid to watch before via our licence fee! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) |
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