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On Jul 6, 9:16 am, Zhang DaWei wrote:
how badgers get on with cats. Anyone happen to know?

The presence of the badgers has meant I've had to put a complete halt to
demolishing the garage (it is made of asbestos sheeting and really needs
to
come down,

Please promise me that you will not take down the asbestos garage
yourself? A friend's husband is terminal with asbestosis, there is no
cure, for being in contact with asbestos during the 1980s. You may
wear a mask but the fibres can and will stick to your clothing and
even though you don't see them, you will bring them into the house, it
really is very dangerous to do it yourself. There are specialist
people out there who will take the whole thing down for you and
dispose of it (you can't take it to a dump yourself).

There are different kinds of asbestos, the type used for garages is
consolidated and not a problem.

Mary

On 6/7/07 12:13, in article gum-uwief,
"Zhang DaWei" wrote:

On Friday 06 Jul 2007 12:04, Mary Fisher
) wrote:

There are different kinds of asbestos, the type used for garages is
consolidated and not a problem.

Its not a problem so long as the dismantling doesn't give off any dust,
which is why its all right to leave them up, but safer to get in the
experts to taken them down (Leastways that was what the environmental
health officer said when I checked it out with him a while back.) Some feel
thay can do it in the rain and with hosepipes wetting everything, but I'd
rather not take the chance myself, and was all right about paying the money
to get it done given that.

And money well spent, too. I know there are lots of theories on these
things but better safe than very, very, tragically, sorry.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)

On Jul 6, 11:50 am, Zhang DaWei wrote:
it).

I'd already set aside the money to get a specialist firm to dismantle it,
but, of course, now badgers have been discovered undeneath it, it stays
where it is!

Good, I'm glad to hear that.

Judith

On Jul 6, 12:04 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:

There are different kinds of asbestos, the type used for garages is
consolidated and not a problem.

Correct me if I am wrong Mary, but even the consolidated type poses a
risk when broken up?

I have a Belday ironing board that I had when I was single and living
in a flat 40 years ago!! The ironing board is as good as new but it
has an asbestos plate for the iron to stand on. I am so frightened of
the risk of asbestosis, due to seeing my friend's husband slowly dying
before my eyes, that I want to get rid of the entire board. Am I
overreacting or am I being sensible and cautious?

Judith

On 6/7/07 12:25, in article
,
" wrote:

On Jul 6, 11:50 am, Zhang DaWei wrote:
it).

I'd already set aside the money to get a specialist firm to dismantle it,
but, of course, now badgers have been discovered undeneath it, it stays
where it is!

Good, I'm glad to hear that.

Judith

It occurs to me that if DaWei talks to his local wildlife conservation
officer, those badgers might be moved anyway. There's a risk of asbestosis
for them, surely, too?

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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)

On 6/7/07 13:13, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:38:46 -0700, "
wrote:

On Jul 5, 9:49 pm, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:41:48 -0000, "

wrote:
On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Martin wrote:

Have you thought what you are going to put in the removal van for the
return
trip?

Do you know, I never thought of that!!! What do you suggest?

I thought of it because I watched a TV program about a family who moved to
Spain
to grow ornamental palm trees. The truck he used to deliver a polytent from
UK
was filled with ornamental palms which he sold to garden centres. If I
understood the program properly he made more from this truck load in the
first
year than he did from his efforts to grow palms. I wondered why he didn't
palm
tree import full time and forget about growing them. I did wonder why he
didn't
buy a polytent locally but ...

Ideas on what to put in Judy's van to ...
--

Martin

What about if I fill it with wine and you can sell it, no, that's no
good Customs and Excise!!

I can't sell it, I am still in The Netherlands.

Maybe Sacha can think of some plants that are worth there weight in gold in
UK?

Truffles? ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)

"Martin" wrote

The Dutch local authorities provide sealable bags for disposing of sheets
of
undamaged material containing asbestos. You deliver the bag to the local
authority's rubbish tip.
Martin

When we moved here 12 years ago (also in Holland) I used a large container
to transport plants from the old garden. I thought it was fibreglass of some
kind.

When I put it out for the special 'large item' rubbish collection, they
wouldn't take it because it was asbestos. I was told to take it to the dump
myself......but it's too large to go in the car, so it's still sitting at
the bottom of the garden...........

Jenny

On Jul 6, 1:51 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 6/7/07 13:13, in article ,





"Martin" wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:38:46 -0700, "
wrote:

On Jul 5, 9:49 pm, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:41:48 -0000, "

wrote:
On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, Martin wrote:

Have you thought what you are going to put in the removal van for the
return
trip?

Do you know, I never thought of that!!! What do you suggest?

I thought of it because I watched a TV program about a family who moved to
Spain
to grow ornamental palm trees. The truck he used to deliver a polytent from
UK
was filled with ornamental palms which he sold to garden centres. If I
understood the program properly he made more from this truck load in the
first
year than he did from his efforts to grow palms. I wondered why he didn't
palm
tree import full time and forget about growing them. I did wonder why he
didn't
buy a polytent locally but ...

Ideas on what to put in Judy's van to ...
--

Martin

What about if I fill it with wine and you can sell it, no, that's no
good Customs and Excise!!

I can't sell it, I am still in The Netherlands.

Maybe Sacha can think of some plants that are worth there weight in gold in
UK?

Truffles? ;-)


I couldn't find enough truffles to fill my handbag, mind you I could
fill it with various types of mushrooms.

Judith

" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 6, 12:04 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:

There are different kinds of asbestos, the type used for garages is
consolidated and not a problem.

Correct me if I am wrong Mary, but even the consolidated type poses a
risk when broken up?

ALL dust can cause a problem. If the garage is dismantled in a controlled
manner there won't be a problem.

I have a Belday ironing board that I had when I was single and living
in a flat 40 years ago!! The ironing board is as good as new but it
has an asbestos plate for the iron to stand on. I am so frightened of
the risk of asbestosis, due to seeing my friend's husband slowly dying
before my eyes, that I want to get rid of the entire board. Am I
overreacting or am I being sensible and cautious?

Those mats were often made of the 'wrong' type of asbestos and even flakes
at the edges. The fact that millions of us used them with no effect poses an
interesting problem :-) But if you're worried get rid of it. A new ironing
board isn't going to break the bank.

I lived not too far from the asbestos factory in Leeds and even played in
the streets nearby - but I didn't work inside it and wasn't breathing in the
often invisible dust over long stretches of time.

My huband worked in a metallurgical laboratory and often ground the 'bad'
asbestos to powder in a mortar. So far he's OK. He also makes things from
horn, antler and bone - most of the time forgetting to wear a mask. Not that
a mask would protect against the finest dust.

We all have to die from something, he and I both have cancer although it
might not kill us.

Don't you drive a car? I've seen people die horribly as the result of car
accidents but I still get behind the wheel.

Mary

On Jul 6, 3:22 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
Those mats were often made of the 'wrong' type of asbestos and even flakes
at the edges. The fact that millions of us used them with no effect poses an
interesting problem :-) But if you're worried get rid of it. A new ironing
board isn't going to break the bank.

No, you are right, I will buy another.

We all have to die from something, he and I both have cancer although it
might not kill us.

But, as you know Mary, there are cancers and there are cancers. I
have had surgery on more than one occasion for cancer and like you,
hopefully it won't kill me.

Don't you drive a car? I've seen people die horribly as the result of car
accidents but I still get behind the wheel.

I do and a motor mower! but it's all about reducing the risks and I
try to but asbestosis when diagnosed is too late to do anything, it is
terminal, there is no cure and the prognosis that when one displays
symptoms, it means that you have been exposed to it maybe 30 years
ago? I suppose if I am around in 30 years I wouldn't care too much
but right now all I can do is reduce the risk of everything that could
be considered hazardous and that includes, it seems, breathing.

Judith

Mary

On 6/7/07 15:20, in article
,
" wrote:

On Jul 6, 1:51 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 6/7/07 13:13, in article ,

"Martin" wrote:
snip

Maybe Sacha can think of some plants that are worth there weight in gold in
UK?

Truffles? ;-)


I couldn't find enough truffles to fill my handbag, mind you I could
fill it with various types of mushrooms.

Judith


Risotto's at your place!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)

On Jul 6, 4:09 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 6/7/07 15:20, in article
. com,







" wrote:
On Jul 6, 1:51 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 6/7/07 13:13, in article ,

"Martin" wrote:
snip

Maybe Sacha can think of some plants that are worth there weight in gold in
UK?

Truffles? ;-)

I couldn't find enough truffles to fill my handbag, mind you I could
fill it with various types of mushrooms.

Judith

Risotto's at your place!

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
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- Show quoted text -

From 1st October onwards yes, everyone here is invited, to help me
redesign the garden. We have 7 bedrooms now ready but only 2
bathrooms so all you experts can share and if you all do the garden
planning, I will do the cooking.

Judith

" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 6, 3:22 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
Those mats were often made of the 'wrong' type of asbestos and even
flakes
at the edges. The fact that millions of us used them with no effect poses
an
interesting problem :-) But if you're worried get rid of it. A new
ironing
board isn't going to break the bank.

No, you are right, I will buy another.

We all have to die from something, he and I both have cancer although
it
might not kill us.

But, as you know Mary, there are cancers and there are cancers. I
have had surgery on more than one occasion for cancer and like you,
hopefully it won't kill me.

But we don't know. It's just another thing to ignore :-)

Don't you drive a car? I've seen people die horribly as the result of car
accidents but I still get behind the wheel.

I do and a motor mower! but it's all about reducing the risks and I
try to but asbestosis when diagnosed is too late to do anything, it is
terminal, there is no cure and the prognosis that when one displays
symptoms, it means that you have been exposed to it maybe 30 years
ago? I suppose if I am around in 30 years I wouldn't care too much
but right now all I can do is reduce the risk of everything that could
be considered hazardous and that includes, it seems, breathing.

You can't reduce all the risks of driving though :-)

On 6/7/07 16:27, in article
,
" wrote:

On Jul 6, 4:09 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 6/7/07 15:20, in article
. com,







" wrote:
On Jul 6, 1:51 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 6/7/07 13:13, in article ,

"Martin" wrote:
snip

Maybe Sacha can think of some plants that are worth there weight in gold
in
UK?

Truffles? ;-)

I couldn't find enough truffles to fill my handbag, mind you I could
fill it with various types of mushrooms.

Judith

Risotto's at your place!

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

From 1st October onwards yes, everyone here is invited, to help me
redesign the garden. We have 7 bedrooms now ready but only 2
bathrooms so all you experts can share and if you all do the garden
planning, I will do the cooking.

Judith


Er, hang on - where's Edward........ ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)

The contents of my wife's handbag would easily fill a small removal van.
--

Martin


My wife once asked me to get something out of her handbag, I swear I could
hear voices in the distance shouting "Help - is there anyone there!" So now
I take precautions and always open her bag while wearing a safety line...
can't be too careful. I think it is a portal into another galaxy.

David.