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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try
some in a year old compost heap. They sprouted quite spectacularly - some had a bush sized foilage until recently. So tonight was crop time. The garden pots were reasonable, though a little small. Then onto the compost heap, which, frankly were an embarassment, there were 2 or 3 of around a inch round, the vast majority were half an inch round. So they have obviously put their energies into growing tall, yet not developing the potatoes beneath them. Why is this - soil too rich? Ta Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
"A.Lee" wrote in message
.. . Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try some in a year old compost heap. They sprouted quite spectacularly - some had a bush sized foilage until recently. So tonight was crop time. The garden pots were reasonable, though a little small. Then onto the compost heap, which, frankly were an embarassment, there were 2 or 3 of around a inch round, the vast majority were half an inch round. So they have obviously put their energies into growing tall, yet not developing the potatoes beneath them. Why is this - soil too rich? Ta Alan. You say "Soil too rich". What soil? You cannot fool nature. Potatoes need to be grown in soil which has been suitably enriched with manure and then earthed-up to ensure that the developing tubers are not exposed to the light. Your next experiment could well be the growing of potatoes on a farmyard manure heap and the result would be similar to that which you have just reported-a failure. Regards, Emrys Davies. |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
"Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "A.Lee" wrote in message .. . Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try some in a year old compost heap. [...] soil too rich? You say "Soil too rich". What soil? You cannot fool nature. Potatoes need to be grown in soil which has been suitably enriched with manure and then earthed-up to ensure that the developing tubers are not exposed to the light. Your next experiment could well be the growing of potatoes on a farmyard manure heap and the result would be similar to that which you have just reported-a failure. Lots of us grow potatoes in compost in buckets without a problem. Tim w |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
"Tim W" wrote in message ... "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "A.Lee" wrote in message .. . Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try some in a year old compost heap. [...] soil too rich? You say "Soil too rich". What soil? You cannot fool nature. Potatoes need to be grown in soil which has been suitably enriched with manure and then earthed-up to ensure that the developing tubers are not exposed to the light. Your next experiment could well be the growing of potatoes on a farmyard manure heap and the result would be similar to that which you have just reported-a failure. Lots of us grow potatoes in compost in buckets without a problem. Tim w I always seem to have bag upon bag of woody shreddings. For two years I've put them in buckets or other containers and planted left-over seed potatoes in them. The yield isn't huge but there IS a yield and the potatoes are always sound. There's no manure in the shreddings, unless the odd creature has died or deposited in there. There's no point in wasting expensive, heritage seed potatoes. Mary |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "Tim W" wrote in message ... "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "A.Lee" wrote in message .. . Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try some in a year old compost heap. [...] soil too rich? You say "Soil too rich". What soil? You cannot fool nature. Potatoes need to be grown in soil which has been suitably enriched with manure and then earthed-up to ensure that the developing tubers are not exposed to the light. Your next experiment could well be the growing of potatoes on a farmyard manure heap and the result would be similar to that which you have just reported-a failure. Lots of us grow potatoes in compost in buckets without a problem. Tim w I always seem to have bag upon bag of woody shreddings. For two years I've put them in buckets or other containers and planted left-over seed potatoes in them. The yield isn't huge but there IS a yield and the potatoes are always sound. There's no manure in the shreddings, unless the odd creature has died or deposited in there. There's no point in wasting expensive, heritage seed potatoes. What potatoes come under the heading of 'heritage'? And, where can I get some? Do you just keep some of the tubers from last year to plant again? Alan |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
"Alan Holmes" wrote in message ... There's no point in wasting expensive, heritage seed potatoes. What potatoes come under the heading of 'heritage'? A lot. And, where can I get some? T&M or other good seed/plant/vegetable suppliers. Do you just keep some of the tubers from last year to plant again? Never, deliberately. But I don't always manage to get every tuber out of the ground so we have volunteers coming up all over. And there are always peelings which grow round the compost bin. Tonight we had Salad Blue - blue potatoes which are blue all through (unlike Edzell Blue which re only blue on the outside, but they taste very good) and if you steam them or boil them in a small amount of water (I always do) the water is green ... beautiful! The potatoes taste good too. Mary |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
"Tim W" wrote in message ... "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "A.Lee" wrote in message .. . Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try some in a year old compost heap. [...] soil too rich? You say "Soil too rich". What soil? You cannot fool nature. Potatoes need to be grown in soil which has been suitably enriched with manure and then earthed-up to ensure that the developing tubers are not exposed to the light. Your next experiment could well be the growing of potatoes on a farmyard manure heap and the result would be similar to that which you have just reported-a failure. Lots of us grow potatoes in compost in buckets without a problem. I have just dug some out of my compost heap which grew from potato peelings, and some of them were HUGE! |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
Emrys Davies wrote:
"A.Lee" wrote in message.. Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try some in a year old compost heap. They sprouted quite spectacularly - some had a bush sized foilage until recently. So tonight was crop time. The garden pots were reasonable, though a little small. Then onto the compost heap, which, frankly were an embarassment, there were 2 or 3 of around a inch round, the vast majority were half an inchround. You say "Soil too rich". What soil? You cannot fool nature. Potatoes need to be grown in soil which has been suitably enriched with manure and then earthed-up to ensure that the developing tubers are not exposed to the light. Yes, but why is that? I would have thought a compost heap would be ideal growing ground, yet they put all their energy into growing a large plant, but the potatoes were tiny. They were well buried, so light shouldnt have reached them, but as in most compost heaps, the compost was very lightweight and 'fluffy',unlike my soil, which was very hard and heavy when I dug up the garden grown ones. Also, the compost heap would have been warmer, and better drained, so they are more factors which may have contributed. Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
A.Lee wrote:
Emrys Davies wrote: "A.Lee" wrote in message.. Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try some in a year old compost heap. They sprouted quite spectacularly - some had a bush sized foilage until recently. So tonight was crop time. The garden pots were reasonable, though a little small. Then onto the compost heap, which, frankly were an embarassment, there were 2 or 3 of around a inch round, the vast majority were half an inchround. You say "Soil too rich". What soil? You cannot fool nature. Potatoes need to be grown in soil which has been suitably enriched with manure and then earthed-up to ensure that the developing tubers are not exposed to the light. Yes, but why is that? I would have thought a compost heap would be ideal growing ground, yet they put all their energy into growing a large plant, but the potatoes were tiny. They were well buried, so light shouldnt have reached them, but as in most compost heaps, the compost was very lightweight and 'fluffy',unlike my soil, which was very hard and heavy when I dug up the garden grown ones. Also, the compost heap would have been warmer, and better drained, so they are more factors which may have contributed. Alan. Well, coincidentally, yesterday I went down the bottom of my garden where the compost heap (a very informal affair) is to collect a wheelbarrow of the stuff to spread over a bed ready for Autumn planting of onions. While digging it out I came across a "wild" potato plant, the spuds were large, numerous and in great condition. |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
On 14 Aug, 09:41, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article ,a... @darkroom.+.com (A.Lee) writes: | Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try | some in a year old compost heap. I tried some in a large bag in a polytunnel, to get some extra early ones. Not merely were they later, they were exactly like yours! Hullo folks! Just arrived and surveyed pots and beds, troughs and baskets etc. Our 'spud bucket experiment' is a disaster. I had put in around 6 pink fir and got 10 back, a handfull, pathetic. I've heard the sun hasn't much appeared in the last 15 days we were away. We on the other hand got far too much ;o) I will put the disapointments of this year's harvest to lack of sunshine. I can't remember a worst year in 26 years. Haven't yet seen the allotment - hoping for some treats. |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
La Puce writes:
On 14 Aug, 09:41, (Nick Maclaren) wrote: In article ,a... @darkroom.+.com (A.Lee) writes: | Having a few seed potatoes left earlier this year, I thought I'd try | some in a year old compost heap. I tried some in a large bag in a polytunnel, to get some extra early ones. Not merely were they later, they were exactly like yours! Hullo folks! Just arrived and surveyed pots and beds, troughs and baskets etc. Our 'spud bucket experiment' is a disaster. I had put in around 6 pink fir and got 10 back, a handfull, pathetic. I put 2 each in old compost bags and topped them up as they grew. Emptied the first bag last weekend and got a whole pound of potatoes. The four remaining bags are still showing growth in the tops so I'll leave them for a while longer, but they were planted later with a week or two between each. Anthony |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
On 16 Aug, 19:35, wrote:
I put 2 each in old compost bags and topped them up as they grew. Emptied the first bag last weekend and got a whole pound of potatoes. The four remaining bags are still showing growth in the tops so I'll leave them for a while longer, but they were planted later with a week or two between each. Well done to you ) I've decided I'm done with spuds for a couple of years if no more. I fancy increasing carrots of different varieties (and colours) and salads including sorrel/spinash and peas/broads, leeks/oignons/garlic and extend the herbs side with lots of flowers and perhaps introduce new ones. Everyone is talking about Good King Henry (which I've never eaten) and I'd like to try growing Alexander, Amaranth and Red Orach etc. things which I wanted to do for years and never got to do. So there ) |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
"La Puce" wrote in message ups.com... On 16 Aug, 19:35, wrote: I put 2 each in old compost bags and topped them up as they grew. Emptied the first bag last weekend and got a whole pound of potatoes. The four remaining bags are still showing growth in the tops so I'll leave them for a while longer, but they were planted later with a week or two between each. Well done to you ) I've decided I'm done with spuds for a couple of years if no more. I fancy increasing carrots of different varieties (and colours) and salads including sorrel/spinash and peas/broads, leeks/oignons/garlic and extend the herbs side with lots of flowers and perhaps introduce new ones. Everyone is talking about Good King Henry (which I've never eaten) I can't recommend Good King Henry. I grew it as a potherb in my mediaeval garden but it had no character, either as leaves or the flower spikes (which were supposed to be Poor Man's asparagus). The whole plant is soft and with very little flavour. I know why It's not used these days. Mary |
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Potatoes in compsost experiment - failure!
In article , writes
I put 2 each in old compost bags and topped them up as they grew. Emptied the first bag last weekend and got a whole pound of potatoes. The four remaining bags are still showing growth in the tops so I'll leave them for a while longer, but they were planted later with a week or two between each. Anthony I put three cara in a proper potato bin and fed and watered it regularly but I got about 6 small potatoes from the entire bin! Not going to bother again. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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