If I might be permitted to make a suggestion at this point, I would
like to point out that the place for a discussion on the rights and
wrongs of shooting deer and pigeons is not on uk.rec.birdwatching, or
uk.rec.gardening. The clue is in the names. It's debatable whether
uk.environment.conservation and uk.business.agriculture are
appropriate places to be discussing hunitng in America, but that's for
members of those groups to decide.

Finally, a plea from the heart. Please don't crosspost to any and all
'nature' oriented groups, use a little judgement: take five seconds to
think: "is a group dedicated to watching birds the right place to talk
about hunting deer?" Please?

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:40:08 -0700, Gwyddno
wrote:

If I might be permitted to make a suggestion at this point, I would
like to point out that the place for a discussion on the rights and
wrongs of shooting deer and pigeons is not on uk.rec.birdwatching, or
uk.rec.gardening. The clue is in the names. It's debatable whether
uk.environment.conservation and uk.business.agriculture are
appropriate places to be discussing hunitng in America, but that's for
members of those groups to decide.

Finally, a plea from the heart. Please don't crosspost to any and all
'nature' oriented groups, use a little judgement: take five seconds to
think: "is a group dedicated to watching birds the right place to talk
about hunting deer?" Please?


Of course it is. If the CONservation hooligans like the RSPB et al are
killing wildlife then it's of great interest to us all, regardless of
what groups we are in.

If you want to play net nanny I suggest you start your own little
world in a moderated group where you can run a dictatorship if you
wish.



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Hansom 0++0




Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!


PRAYER FOR A NATION


When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
the usual politically correct generalities.
But what they heard instead was this:

Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
and seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.

We confess that:

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;

We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;

We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;

We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;

We have killed our unborn and called it choice;

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;

We have abused power and called it political savvy;

We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;

We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.

Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”


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Gwyddno wrote:
If I might be permitted to make a suggestion at this point, I would
like to point out that the place for a discussion on the rights and
wrongs of shooting deer and pigeons is not on uk.rec.birdwatching, or
uk.rec.gardening. The clue is in the names. It's debatable whether
uk.environment.conservation and uk.business.agriculture are
appropriate places to be discussing hunitng in America, but that's for
members of those groups to decide.

Finally, a plea from the heart. Please don't crosspost to any and all
'nature' oriented groups, use a little judgement: take five seconds to
think: "is a group dedicated to watching birds the right place to talk
about hunting deer?" Please?

Unfortunately you are making that request to Pete the Troll and his
mates. Their *only* interest is in stirring up trouble in as many
groups as possible.


--
Old Codger
e-mail use reply to field

What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:46:54 +0100, Old Codger
wrote:

Gwyddno wrote:
If I might be permitted to make a suggestion at this point, I would
like to point out that the place for a discussion on the rights and
wrongs of shooting deer and pigeons is not on uk.rec.birdwatching, or
uk.rec.gardening. The clue is in the names. It's debatable whether
uk.environment.conservation and uk.business.agriculture are
appropriate places to be discussing hunitng in America, but that's for
members of those groups to decide.

Finally, a plea from the heart. Please don't crosspost to any and all
'nature' oriented groups, use a little judgement: take five seconds to
think: "is a group dedicated to watching birds the right place to talk
about hunting deer?" Please?

Unfortunately you are making that request to Pete the Troll and his
mates. Their *only* interest is in stirring up trouble in as many
groups as possible.

Get back to your smutty books you dirty old man.



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Hansom 0++0




Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!


PRAYER FOR A NATION


When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
the usual politically correct generalities.
But what they heard instead was this:

Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
and seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.

We confess that:

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;

We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;

We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;

We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;

We have killed our unborn and called it choice;

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;

We have abused power and called it political savvy;

We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;

We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.

Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”


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