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I have just got my order from D T browns of the raspberries so praised
by this group a few weeks back. V. exciting! However in the parcel was a delivery note and I find I have following an 'old Greengage' tree on pixy stock. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought I had ordered Champagne rhubarb! Order numbers look right so it must have been me.. Still nothing daunted and looking at it with a pragmatic approach I shall wait in anticipation for this surprise arrival. Has anyone got any tips for growing a fruit tree like this? How much room do I give it and will it need another one to produce fruit. I have a Bramley and there's Malus john Dowie but the only plums are next door and I think they are Victoria and what the older people that sued to live there, called Bullaces. janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... I have just got my order from D T browns of the raspberries so praised by this group a few weeks back. V. exciting! However in the parcel was a delivery note and I find I have following an 'old Greengage' tree on pixy stock. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought I had ordered Champagne rhubarb! Order numbers look right so it must have been me.. Still nothing daunted and looking at it with a pragmatic approach I shall wait in anticipation for this surprise arrival. Has anyone got any tips for growing a fruit tree like this? How much room do I give it and will it need another one to produce fruit. I have a Bramley and there's Malus john Dowie but the only plums are next door and I think they are Victoria and what the older people that sued to live there, called Bullaces. janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk I had a Greengage Tree in the garden of my house in Leicester. Sadly felled to make way for blocks of flats. The tree was massive. Big enough for me to climb into and eat the fruit :-))) 25 - 30 ft high with the same spread. Hope that helps. (No idea its variety or age, but age wise would guess 20 odd years) Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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In article , Janet Tweedy writes: | | Has anyone got any tips for growing a fruit tree like this? How much | room do I give it and will it need another one to produce fruit. I have | a Bramley and there's Malus john Dowie but the only plums are next door | and I think they are Victoria and what the older people that sued to | live there, called Bullaces. That should take care of the pollination. You could plant a damson, bullace, plum or other greengage if you like - they are all the same species, and MOST will pollinate each other. The size depends a lot on the pruning, and perhaps variety. They aren't big trees like Bramleys, and most can be pruned into 6'x6'x8'. But I am no expert. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In article , "'Mike'" writes: | | I had a Greengage Tree in the garden of my house in Leicester. Sadly felled | to make way for blocks of flats. | | The tree was massive. Big enough for me to climb into and eat the fruit | :-))) | | 25 - 30 ft high with the same spread. | | Hope that helps. (No idea its variety or age, but age wise would guess 20 | odd years) Boggle. I didn't know that they got that big - the only ones I have seen have been quite small. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , "'Mike'" writes: | | I had a Greengage Tree in the garden of my house in Leicester. Sadly felled | to make way for blocks of flats. | | The tree was massive. Big enough for me to climb into and eat the fruit | :-))) | | 25 - 30 ft high with the same spread. | | Hope that helps. (No idea its variety or age, but age wise would guess 20 | odd years) Boggle. I didn't know that they got that big - the only ones I have seen have been quite small. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Just tried to calculate the age of the Greengage, and a Walnut which was alongside it, and we now 'guesstimate' they were both over 30 years old. It's a bit difficult because of the history and timetable of the land which goes back to before the time of the Jarrow March!!! The trees 'may' have been in then. We were there from 1967 - 1971 Mike |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
... In article , "'Mike'" writes: | | I had a Greengage Tree in the garden of my house in Leicester. Sadly felled | to make way for blocks of flats. | | The tree was massive. Big enough for me to climb into and eat the fruit | :-))) | | 25 - 30 ft high with the same spread. | | Hope that helps. (No idea its variety or age, but age wise would guess 20 | odd years) Boggle. I didn't know that they got that big - the only ones I have seen have been quite small. It's on 'Pixie' so it won't get huge but I've not grown gages on that stock so I can't say with any certainty how big it will get except to say nowhere near as big as the same thing grown on any of the old plumstocks. -- Rod My real address is rodthegardeneratmyisp |
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In article , Charlie Pridham writes: | | It very much depends on the rootstock used and its only the more modern | trees where the use of dwarfing stock like "pixie" has made the trees | smaller, in the orchard on the farm where I grew up they were huge as | were the apple trees (but then again I last was there age 3 and most | things are huge at that age!) All of the ones I was thinking of were on their own roots - probably semi-dwarf varieties, given what you say. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In article , Nick Maclaren
writes Boggle. I didn't know that they got that big - the only ones I have seen have been quite small. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Er yes, this one is on pixie stock. Perhaps it should be in a tub? -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Nick Maclaren
writes The size depends a lot on the pruning, and perhaps variety. They aren't big trees like Bramleys, and most can be pruned into 6'x6'x8'. But I am no expert. I am worried that pruning is a "no, no" in plums? -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On 16 Nov, 17:55, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Nick Maclaren writes The size depends a lot on the pruning, and perhaps variety. They aren't big trees like Bramleys, and most can be pruned into 6'x6'x8'. But I am no expert. I am worried that pruning is a "no, no" in plums? -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk Heavy pruning cuts are to be avoided - lets in 'silver leaf fungus. I killed a lovely ornamental cherry that way (many years ago when I didn't know any better). Light cuts should be ok especially if done in early summer. Have you considered fan-training for a more compact tree? |
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In article ,
says... In article , Nick Maclaren writes The size depends a lot on the pruning, and perhaps variety. They aren't big trees like Bramleys, and most can be pruned into 6'x6'x8'. But I am no expert. I am worried that pruning is a "no, no" in plums? I think you just have to be more careful timing wise with regard to silver leaf disease. -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Pridham writes I am worried that pruning is a "no, no" in plums? I think you just have to be more careful timing wise with regard to silver leaf disease. Oh right - thank you. I'm going to plant it in a HUGE ex tree tub. That way it can do what it likes What about loganberries? Do they need any special treatment, I was considering them as the same as raspberries. Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Janet Tweedy writes: | | What about loganberries? Do they need any special treatment, I was | considering them as the same as raspberries. Blackberries are a better analogue - the pruning and thinning are slightly different from raspberries. Otherwise, yes. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In article , Nick Maclaren
writes In article , Janet Tweedy writes: | | What about loganberries? Do they need any special treatment, I was | considering them as the same as raspberries. Blackberries are a better analogue - the pruning and thinning are slightly different from raspberries. Otherwise, yes. Thanks Nick, they are replacing blackberries. I gave up trying to control a Bedford Giant and Himalayan wotsit as it was easier and just as good to visit the local pick your own farm. This was I get my path back -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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