I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the
weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and
they gave some interesting facts.
I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could
source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their
plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not
getting the Accord due to them!
I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on
display?

They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name
changes for marketing purposes.
Pruning they said (to quote them)


"Top Tip
By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the
exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by
it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the
beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the
saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in
shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring
because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning."

If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to
forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as
they seem to care about their plants.
Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for
growing Sacha?





Janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 25/11/07 13:09, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the
weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and
they gave some interesting facts.
I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could
source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their
plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not
getting the Accord due to them!
I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on
display?

I would think so, though quite how they'd prove it if a nursery stand bought
in from elsewhere, I don't know.

They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name
changes for marketing purposes.
Pruning they said (to quote them)


"Top Tip
By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the
exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by
it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the
beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the
saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in
shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring
because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning."

If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to
forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as
they seem to care about their plants.
Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for
growing Sacha?



It's a possible for the new web site, Janet, if I can get Ray to sit down
long enough to dictate it to me *and* tell me what's going on the mail order
page etc! Now that Cormaic doesn't have time to maintain the faq and the
urg ring, I wonder if some computer whiz and gardening expert here could
take it on?? I know nothing about such things but there must be someone who
could do it? I mention it because your lavender report strikes me as
perfect for the faq, wouldn't you say?


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article , Sacha
writes

Actually it's not for the web site Sacha more for interested customers
who receive it as an email. Good for feeling that the nursery cares a
lot about its plants and WANTS you to succeed
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 25/11/07 16:23, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes

Actually it's not for the web site Sacha more for interested customers
who receive it as an email. Good for feeling that the nursery cares a
lot about its plants and WANTS you to succeed

Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want
to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article ,
says...
On 25/11/07 13:09, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the
weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and
they gave some interesting facts.
I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could
source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their
plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not
getting the Accord due to them!
I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on
display?

I would think so, though quite how they'd prove it if a nursery stand bought
in from elsewhere, I don't know.

They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name
changes for marketing purposes.
Pruning they said (to quote them)


"Top Tip
By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the
exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by
it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the
beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the
saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in
shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring
because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning."

If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to
forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as
they seem to care about their plants.
Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for
growing Sacha?



It's a possible for the new web site, Janet, if I can get Ray to sit down
long enough to dictate it to me *and* tell me what's going on the mail order
page etc! Now that Cormaic doesn't have time to maintain the faq and the
urg ring, I wonder if some computer whiz and gardening expert here could
take it on?? I know nothing about such things but there must be someone who
could do it? I mention it because your lavender report strikes me as
perfect for the faq, wouldn't you say?



No I am afraid nurseries can and do buy in their displays, I can not see
why they dont just sell used cars and have done with it. I won't mention
names but I am sad to say its one of the Gold medal winning Cornish
nurseries that I know do this every year and I can not imagine they are
the only ones :~(
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article , Sacha
writes


Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want
to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance.


I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So
there's no fear of offending anyone that way.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

In article , Charlie
Pridham writes


No I am afraid nurseries can and do buy in their displays, I can not see
why they dont just sell used cars and have done with it. I won't mention
names but I am sad to say its one of the Gold medal winning Cornish
nurseries that I know do this every year and I can not imagine they are
the only ones :~(


I think that's awful Charlie. Even our little show has the rule that the
plant must have been in our possession for at least 6 months before
showing.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 25/11/07 18:49, in article
, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On 25/11/07 13:09, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the
weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and
they gave some interesting facts.
I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could
source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their
plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not
getting the Accord due to them!
I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on
display?

I would think so, though quite how they'd prove it if a nursery stand bought
in from elsewhere, I don't know.

They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name
changes for marketing purposes.
Pruning they said (to quote them)


"Top Tip
By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the
exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by
it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the
beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the
saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in
shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring
because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning."

If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to
forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as
they seem to care about their plants.
Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for
growing Sacha?



It's a possible for the new web site, Janet, if I can get Ray to sit down
long enough to dictate it to me *and* tell me what's going on the mail order
page etc! Now that Cormaic doesn't have time to maintain the faq and the
urg ring, I wonder if some computer whiz and gardening expert here could
take it on?? I know nothing about such things but there must be someone who
could do it? I mention it because your lavender report strikes me as
perfect for the faq, wouldn't you say?



No I am afraid nurseries can and do buy in their displays, I can not see
why they dont just sell used cars and have done with it. I won't mention
names but I am sad to say its one of the Gold medal winning Cornish
nurseries that I know do this every year and I can not imagine they are
the only ones :~(



Ooooh - very bad news, Charlie, if you mean in a nursery stand and not a
display garden. That really is NOT honest dealing if a specialist nursery
sells plants for which they are known but which actually come from others.
Presumably customers expect that x y and z nursery specialising in lavender,
azaleas or hyacinths are selling their own products if that's what they
display on a stand dedicated to such plants.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 25/11/07 22:22, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes


Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want
to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance.


I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So
there's no fear of offending anyone that way.

That's possible of course. But I now receive so many dozens of catalogues
from all the (non garden) shopping I do online that I know that 'tick the no
further info' box is simply ignored. I am particularly irritated to receive
paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a
tremendous waste of trees, time and money.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article ,
says...
On 25/11/07 18:49, in article
, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On 25/11/07 13:09, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

I had a really interesting newsletter from Downderry nurseries over the
weekend. They hold one of the national collections for lavenders and
they gave some interesting facts.
I never knew that people exhibiting at Chelsea and Hampton court could
source their plants from anywhere they liked so the fact that their
plants got top marks for quality meant that someone somewhere was not
getting the Accord due to them!
I assume they refer to the gardens but surely not the nurseries on
display?

I would think so, though quite how they'd prove it if a nursery stand bought
in from elsewhere, I don't know.

They also gave some interesting tips about misnamed lavenders and name
changes for marketing purposes.
Pruning they said (to quote them)


"Top Tip
By now if your lavenders haven't been pruned......don't, with the
exception of the large silver-leaved Dutch Group,*often referred to*by
it's old name*Vera. Flower stems can be removed even now, but leave the
beautiful foliage to brighten-up a winters' day. In the spring when the
saps up just trim off a hands' width of foliage to keep the plants in
shape. This is the only lavender we'd recommend pruning in spring
because it flowers too late for early autumn pruning."

If anyone would like to see the email/letter in full I'll be happy to
forward it on.It does actually make me keen to buy from them again as
they seem to care about their plants.
Perhaps we ought to have a Hill House biyearly newsletter and tips for
growing Sacha?



It's a possible for the new web site, Janet, if I can get Ray to sit down
long enough to dictate it to me *and* tell me what's going on the mail order
page etc! Now that Cormaic doesn't have time to maintain the faq and the
urg ring, I wonder if some computer whiz and gardening expert here could
take it on?? I know nothing about such things but there must be someone who
could do it? I mention it because your lavender report strikes me as
I am told (by someone in their employ) that the plants are ordered for a
show like Chelsea and are delivered for them to the show, they never even
visit cornwall, they justify this by claiming they are from "partener
nurseries" It gets worse, plants people order from them at the show are
not owned by the nursery but are sourced after and delivered direct from
the grower without ever visiting cornwall. I would not say the majority
do it, most are indeed proud of their plants but the fact that at least
one does (with the knowledge of the RHS apparently) means I have never
wanted to go.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On 26/11/07 08:34, in article
, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:

snip
I am told (by someone in their employ) that the plants are ordered for a
show like Chelsea and are delivered for them to the show, they never even
visit cornwall, they justify this by claiming they are from "partener
nurseries" It gets worse, plants people order from them at the show are
not owned by the nursery but are sourced after and delivered direct from
the grower without ever visiting cornwall. I would not say the majority
do it, most are indeed proud of their plants but the fact that at least
one does (with the knowledge of the RHS apparently) means I have never
wanted to go.

Well, we've said we won't go again because of the crowding. I'd rather
watch it on telly and actually prefer Hampton Court because it's easier to
move around and you can buy plants on the day. But what you're saying is a
real disgrace, IMO.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:01:40 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 25/11/07 22:22, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes


Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want
to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance.


I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So
there's no fear of offending anyone that way.

That's possible of course. But I now receive so many dozens of catalogues
from all the (non garden) shopping I do online that I know that 'tick the no
further info' box is simply ignored. I am particularly irritated to receive
paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a
tremendous waste of trees, time and money.

I so agree with you. I send them back, marking the envelope "no catalogues
please". Lakeland are among the worst. At one time I was looking for some
item and had SIX catalogues to go through, all in date. When I phoned them
to say, could I just have one main catalogue a year, they said it wasn't
possible - so I have now firmly opted for no catalogues at all from them,
which is an edict they do obey.


--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
http://www.freerice.com/index.php
Give free rice to hungry people by playing a simple word game

"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
al.net...
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:01:40 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 25/11/07 22:22, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes


Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people
want
to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance.


I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So
there's no fear of offending anyone that way.

That's possible of course. But I now receive so many dozens of
catalogues
from all the (non garden) shopping I do online that I know that 'tick the
no
further info' box is simply ignored. I am particularly irritated to
receive
paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a
tremendous waste of trees, time and money.

I so agree with you. I send them back, marking the envelope "no
catalogues
please". Lakeland are among the worst. At one time I was looking for
some
item and had SIX catalogues to go through, all in date. When I phoned
them
to say, could I just have one main catalogue a year, they said it wasn't
possible - so I have now firmly opted for no catalogues at all from them,
which is an edict they do obey.


--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
http://www.freerice.com/index.php
Give free rice to hungry people by playing a simple word game



I have 4 accounts with Viking Direct. Consequently I get 4 sets of
catalogues each quarter and 4 sets of their sales catalogues each 'day' so
it seems. I did explain that even though I have 4 accounts, they are for 4
different Associations and I am the only person dealing with them in the
main part, could I just have 1 set to save trees. So they put a stop on
................. ALL of them. Had to telephone and ask for a catalogue. I
now get all 4 again.

I have just started another business, I daren't open another account with
them!!!! Even though an opening account gets all sorts of useful goodies.

Mike

--
www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters
www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates.
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there.

paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a
tremendous waste of trees, time and money.

I made a one-off purchase of a little electric rotovator
from a mail order company here in France. Every week since
then they bombard me with junk mail. It must have cost them
more in junk mail and postage than the profit they made
from the one-off sale to me.

I can live with a catalogue once in a while and don't mind
a browse. The thing that irritates me are all the gimmicks
- little pretend cheque books with so much percentage off
with each item above a certain amount. Each week more junk
mail from them with the discounts getting larger. Little
"convenient" plastic cards with my "priority customer
number" on them. They even sent me a folder to keep a copy
of all my (one and only) orders in. Endless slips of paper
emphasising how much I can save if I can get others to open
an account blah... blah.. blah.

It's worse than those awful Readers Digest type letters
where they include lots of extra crap and a little key etc
etc. At least they put their name on the envelope so you
can chuck it straight into the bin without having to open
it.
--
David in Normandy

On 26/11/07 15:25, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:01:40 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 25/11/07 22:22, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes


Yes, we could do that. Good idea. But we would have to check people want
to get such emails, otherwise they're an intrusive nuisance.


I signed up for it when they sent me an email receipt of an order. So
there's no fear of offending anyone that way.

That's possible of course. But I now receive so many dozens of catalogues
from all the (non garden) shopping I do online that I know that 'tick the no
further info' box is simply ignored. I am particularly irritated to receive
paper catalogues from companies that I order from only online. It's a
tremendous waste of trees, time and money.

I so agree with you. I send them back, marking the envelope "no catalogues
please". Lakeland are among the worst. At one time I was looking for some
item and had SIX catalogues to go through, all in date. When I phoned them
to say, could I just have one main catalogue a year, they said it wasn't
possible - so I have now firmly opted for no catalogues at all from them,
which is an edict they do obey.

Yes, it's one of my 'must do after Christmas' things. I'm going to email or
ring every single company I deal with and ask them not to send me
catalogues. I have all their details online and bookmarked so it really is
a terrible waste.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'