Looking for the ID of that mysterious fruit, I just found these recipes for
one of my favourite shrubs, Aloysia triphylla. It used to be known as
Lippia citrodora and is commonly known as Lemon verbena. I knew it could be
used to flavour a sponge cake by putting it in the bottom of the cake tin or
as a tea infusion but ice cream....?!

Poached Fruit in Lemon Verbena Syrup
1? cups water
? cup Sauvignon Blanc
? cup sugar
12 white peppercorns, lightly cracked
4 apricots, seeded and
quartered
1 cup cherries, halved and
pitted
48 lemon verbena leaves, torn
Combine the water, wine, sugar and white peppercorns in a medium saucepan.
Heat to a boil. Reduce the heat and simmer just until the sugar is
dissolved, about 1 minute.
Add the apricots, cherries and lemon verbena leaves. Simmer 3 to 4 minutes,
just until the fruit is almost tender yet still firm.
Remove the mixture from the heat and pour into a heatproof glass bowl. Let
cool to room temperature, then cover and refrigerate 2 to 3 hours. Serves 4
to 6.


Lemon Verbena Ice Cream
1? cups milk
1? cups whipping cream
1? cups lightly packed small lemon verbena leaves
4 egg yolks
? cup sugar
1 teaspoon lemon juice
In a saucepan over low heat, bring the milk, whipping cream and lemon
verbena leaves to a full simmer. Remove the mixture from the heat, pour into
a glass bowl and let cool to room temperature. Cover and refrigerate
overnight.
The next day, strain the milk-cream mixture into a saucepan (discarding the
lemon verbena leaves) and heat to a simmer.
In the bowl of an electric mixer, beat together the egg yolks and sugar
until thick and lemon colored, about 1 minute.
Pour a third of the hot milk-cream mixture into the egg yolk mixture and
stir to blend, then pour the entire mixture back into the saucepan.
Heat and stir over medium heat until the custard begins to thicken and just
begins to bubble around the edge, about 3 minutes.
Remove the custard from the heat and pour it into a metal bowl. Set the bowl
in a larger bowl filled with ice water. Let the mixture stand, stirring
occasionally, until the custard is chilled. Whisk in the lemon juice.
Freeze in an ice cream maker according to the manufacturer¹s directions.
Spoon the ice cream into a chilled glass bowl or loaf dish and freeze until
ready to serve.
Serves four to six.


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children.'

"Anne Jackson" wrote in message
...
The message from Sacha contains these
words:

Poached Fruit in Lemon Verbena Syrup
1? cups water
? cup Sauvignon Blanc
? cup sugar

What do the question marks signify, Sacha? 1/2?

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I would say she doesn't know how much to put in. What would you say they
mean?

Mike

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On 1/12/07 15:56, in article , "Anne
Jackson" wrote:

The message from Sacha contains these
words:

Poached Fruit in Lemon Verbena Syrup
1? cups water
? cup Sauvignon Blanc
? cup sugar

What do the question marks signify, Sacha? 1/2?

Looking back at the recipes I found, all those mean one half of Sauvignon
Blanc and three quarters of a cup of sugar. In the ice cream recipe all of
them mean one half. I wonder why they 'translate' that way onto a pasted
recipe.
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http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In message , Sacha
writes
On 1/12/07 15:56, in article , "Anne
Jackson" wrote:

The message from Sacha contains these
words:

Poached Fruit in Lemon Verbena Syrup
1? cups water
? cup Sauvignon Blanc
? cup sugar

What do the question marks signify, Sacha? 1/2?

Looking back at the recipes I found, all those mean one half of Sauvignon
Blanc and three quarters of a cup of sugar. In the ice cream recipe all of
them mean one half. I wonder why they 'translate' that way onto a pasted
recipe.

cos usenet is a 7 bit medium and characters like 1/2 are characters that
require 8 bits and so end up as unknown in the 7 bit environment.

--
Si

In article ,
Si $3o&m writes:
| In message , Sacha
| writes
|
| Looking back at the recipes I found, all those mean one half of Sauvignon
| Blanc and three quarters of a cup of sugar. In the ice cream recipe all of
| them mean one half. I wonder why they 'translate' that way onto a pasted
| recipe.
|
| cos usenet is a 7 bit medium and characters like 1/2 are characters that
| require 8 bits and so end up as unknown in the 7 bit environment.

Well, I remember the days when 1/2 was a 7-bit character :-)

But you are quite correct, of course. More precisely, you can rely
on the basic ASCII graphic characters, space and newline - and nothing
else. These are A-Z, a-z, 0-9 and `~!@#$%^&*()_+-={}|[]\:";'?,./


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 2/12/07 09:45, in article , "Si"
$3o&m wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
On 1/12/07 15:56, in article , "Anne
Jackson" wrote:

The message from Sacha contains these
words:

Poached Fruit in Lemon Verbena Syrup
1? cups water
? cup Sauvignon Blanc
? cup sugar

What do the question marks signify, Sacha? 1/2?

Looking back at the recipes I found, all those mean one half of Sauvignon
Blanc and three quarters of a cup of sugar. In the ice cream recipe all of
them mean one half. I wonder why they 'translate' that way onto a pasted
recipe.

cos usenet is a 7 bit medium and characters like 1/2 are characters that
require 8 bits and so end up as unknown in the 7 bit environment.

I'd like to pretend I understand that but I'm grateful anyway. ;-) In
future it's probably better to write out one half etc.

--
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http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 2/12/07 09:45, in article , "Si"
| $3o&m wrote:
|
| cos usenet is a 7 bit medium and characters like 1/2 are characters that
| require 8 bits and so end up as unknown in the 7 bit environment.
|
| I'd like to pretend I understand that but I'm grateful anyway. ;-) In
| future it's probably better to write out one half etc.

I could explain, but you would then have to get someone else to
translate :-) Basically, there are two causes of such chaos:

1) Using characters that have no representation in ASCII
(1/2 being one, pound being another). If it isn't on the main
part of your keyboard in either unshifted or prime shift form,
don't use it (e.g. don't use Alt). And don't use pound on a UK
keyboard.

2) Revolting applications that generate grobble when plain
text would do (even characters like '-' can get mangled). Fixing
that is harder.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:04:54 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote
(in article ):


In article ,
Sacha writes:
On 2/12/07 09:45, in article , "Si"
$3o&m wrote:

cos usenet is a 7 bit medium and characters like 1/2 are characters that
require 8 bits and so end up as unknown in the 7 bit environment.

I'd like to pretend I understand that but I'm grateful anyway. ;-) In
future it's probably better to write out one half etc.

I could explain, but you would then have to get someone else to
translate :-) Basically, there are two causes of such chaos:

1) Using characters that have no representation in ASCII
(1/2 being one, pound being another). If it isn't on the main
part of your keyboard in either unshifted or prime shift form,
don't use it (e.g. don't use Alt). And don't use pound on a UK
keyboard.

Which is why you will notice the frequent use of GBP in place of the pound
sign on usenet - among those who know :-) You may have realised that on your
Mac keyboard, Sacha, you can only get the hash sign by using Alt/Option + 3
(the hash sign apparently being used by Merkins for the pound sign).



--
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Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation
churchyard:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk

On 2/12/07 14:30, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:04:54 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote
(in article ):


In article ,
Sacha writes:
On 2/12/07 09:45, in article , "Si"
$3o&m wrote:

cos usenet is a 7 bit medium and characters like 1/2 are characters that
require 8 bits and so end up as unknown in the 7 bit environment.

I'd like to pretend I understand that but I'm grateful anyway. ;-) In
future it's probably better to write out one half etc.

I could explain, but you would then have to get someone else to
translate :-) Basically, there are two causes of such chaos:

1) Using characters that have no representation in ASCII
(1/2 being one, pound being another). If it isn't on the main
part of your keyboard in either unshifted or prime shift form,
don't use it (e.g. don't use Alt). And don't use pound on a UK
keyboard.

Which is why you will notice the frequent use of GBP in place of the pound
sign on usenet - among those who know :-) You may have realised that on your
Mac keyboard, Sacha, you can only get the hash sign by using Alt/Option + 3
(the hash sign apparently being used by Merkins for the pound sign).


No, I hadn't realised that, so thanks, Sally. I don't think I've ever used
it and as far as I know the £ sign comes through clearly. I'm x-ing my
fingers as I type that. On this new machine's keyboard it's alt+fn=#

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:46:17 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 2/12/07 14:30, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:04:54 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote
(in article ):

snip

1) Using characters that have no representation in ASCII
(1/2 being one, pound being another). If it isn't on the main
part of your keyboard in either unshifted or prime shift form,
don't use it (e.g. don't use Alt). And don't use pound on a UK
keyboard.

Which is why you will notice the frequent use of GBP in place of the pound
sign on usenet - among those who know :-) You may have realised that on
your
Mac keyboard, Sacha, you can only get the hash sign by using Alt/Option + 3
(the hash sign apparently being used by Merkins for the pound sign).


No, I hadn't realised that, so thanks, Sally. I don't think I've ever used
it and as far as I know the £ sign comes through clearly. I'm x-ing my
fingers as I type that. On this new machine's keyboard it's alt+fn=#

Well obviously it shows up correctly to me, but the point is that it wouldn't
necessarily do so to someone with a US (or other than British) keyboard -
because such symbols are in different places on different keyboards. This is
important in an international forum such as usenet. Your keyboard is I assume
set to English layout, so that you do in fact get the pound sign just by
Shift+3.


--
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Give free rice to hungry people by playing a simple word game

On 2/12/07 17:51, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:46:17 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 2/12/07 14:30, in article
, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:04:54 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote
(in article ):

snip

1) Using characters that have no representation in ASCII
(1/2 being one, pound being another). If it isn't on the main
part of your keyboard in either unshifted or prime shift form,
don't use it (e.g. don't use Alt). And don't use pound on a UK
keyboard.

Which is why you will notice the frequent use of GBP in place of the pound
sign on usenet - among those who know :-) You may have realised that on
your
Mac keyboard, Sacha, you can only get the hash sign by using Alt/Option + 3
(the hash sign apparently being used by Merkins for the pound sign).


No, I hadn't realised that, so thanks, Sally. I don't think I've ever used
it and as far as I know the £ sign comes through clearly. I'm x-ing my
fingers as I type that. On this new machine's keyboard it's alt+fn=#

Well obviously it shows up correctly to me, but the point is that it wouldn't
necessarily do so to someone with a US (or other than British) keyboard -
because such symbols are in different places on different keyboards. This is
important in an international forum such as usenet. Your keyboard is I assume
set to English layout, so that you do in fact get the pound sign just by
Shift+3.


Hmmmmm - is this where I take up a "Europe cut off my fog" attitude? ;-))
--
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http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

(Nick Maclaren) wrote in
:

Well, I remember the days when 1/2 was a 7-bit character :-)


I remember when they were three 5-bit characters.
(I don't think they required 5 characters, but I'd
have to check to be certain)

In article ,
Tom Gardner writes:
|
| Well, I remember the days when 1/2 was a 7-bit character :-)
|
| I remember when they were three 5-bit characters.
| (I don't think they required 5 characters, but I'd
| have to check to be certain)

It depends on which 5-bit code. I can no longer remember either of
the ones I used.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In message , Nick Maclaren
writes

In article ,
Tom Gardner writes:
|
| Well, I remember the days when 1/2 was a 7-bit character :-)
|
| I remember when they were three 5-bit characters.
| (I don't think they required 5 characters, but I'd
| have to check to be certain)

It depends on which 5-bit code. I can no longer remember either of
the ones I used.

quite a few here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_encoding

--
Si

On Dec 2, 5:59 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2/12/07 17:51, in article
t, "Sally Thompson"





wrote:
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:46:17 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) :

On 2/12/07 14:30, in article
t, "Sally Thompson"
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:04:54 +0000, Nick Maclaren wrote
(in article ):

snip

1) Using characters that have no representation in ASCII
(1/2 being one, pound being another). If it isn't on the main
part of your keyboard in either unshifted or prime shift form,
don't use it (e.g. don't use Alt). And don't use pound on a UK
keyboard.

Which is why you will notice the frequent use of GBP in place of the pound
sign on usenet - among those who know :-) You may have realised that on
your
Mac keyboard, Sacha, you can only get the hash sign by using Alt/Option + 3
(the hash sign apparently being used by Merkins for the pound sign).

No, I hadn't realised that, so thanks, Sally. I don't think I've ever used
it and as far as I know the £ sign comes through clearly. I'm x-ing my
fingers as I type that. On this new machine's keyboard it's alt+fn=#

Well obviously it shows up correctly to me, but the point is that it wouldn't
necessarily do so to someone with a US (or other than British) keyboard -
because such symbols are in different places on different keyboards. This is
important in an international forum such as usenet. Your keyboard is I assume
set to English layout, so that you do in fact get the pound sign just by
Shift+3.

Hmmmmm - is this where I take up a "Europe cut off my fog" attitude? ;-))

Europe *never* cut off your fog, Sacha, honest ;-)

But seriously, if you want to see mangled, you should try
corresponding with frogs using web-based email. All accents, cedilles
and other items come through as series of letters and other
characters. On one of my accounts, the accented letters are simply
omitted altogether. This makes for pretty interesting reading...

But in essence, I suspect you're right. It was a case of the US (who
seem to have invented most computer language protocol) declaring that
the non-Anglo world was cut off by fog.

Cat(h)