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Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Charlie Pridham wrote:
In article , says... [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit So I see, but when I think of passion fruit (at least what goes by that name here) it's quite different. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
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June Hughes wrote:
In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? Similar- not quite the same, at least in the UK. Aldi (and Lidl) are quite variable- excellent buys for some things. For example, fresh mozzarella, proscuitto di parma. They also had an _excellent_ syrupy balsamic vinegar a while back- the regular balsamic they have is fine, but nothing special. Also, when in season they stock local veg- excellent lancashire tomatoes in the ones here! Also, the baby leaf salad is good. At the moment, the jumbo shrimp and scallops are very good. Don't buy the lobster, very disappointing... -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? You can think of a medlar (Mespilus) as a giant haw (Crataegus); loquats (Eriobotrya) are also pome fruits, but so are apples, pears, serviceberries, and quite a few other plants. Interesting- I wonder why the 'confusion' in various language dictionaries about this. One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla Ah, thanks. I'd only referred to it before when talking in Spanish, and it's the same spelling- my mistake! -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
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In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley writes: | | You can think of a medlar (Mespilus) as a giant haw (Crataegus); loquats | (Eriobotrya) are also pome fruits, but so are apples, pears, | serviceberries, and quite a few other plants. Indeed. Of the traditional tree fruits grown in the UK, nearly half are pome fruits and most of the others are in the plum/cherry group. | One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is | grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) | was selling them a while back... | | Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla We always knew it as grenadilla in Africa. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In message , "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)" writes June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? Similar- not quite the same, at least in the UK. Aldi (and Lidl) are quite variable- excellent buys for some things. For example, fresh mozzarella, proscuitto di parma. They also had an _excellent_ syrupy balsamic vinegar a while back- the regular balsamic they have is fine, but nothing special. Also, when in season they stock local veg- excellent lancashire tomatoes in the ones here! Also, the baby leaf salad is good. At the moment, the jumbo shrimp and scallops are very good. Don't buy the lobster, very disappointing... Thanks David. When this cold has gone I shall go and have a look. -- June Hughes |
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Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
June Hughes wrote:
In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? Similar- not quite the same, at least in the UK. Aldi (and Lidl) are quite variable- excellent buys for some things. For example, fresh mozzarella, proscuitto di parma. They also had an _excellent_ syrupy balsamic vinegar a while back- the regular balsamic they have is fine, but nothing special. Also, when in season they stock local veg- excellent lancashire tomatoes in the ones here! Also, the baby leaf salad is good. At the moment, the jumbo shrimp and scallops are very good. Don't buy the lobster, very disappointing... Thanks David. When this cold has gone I shall go and have a look. I am a Lidl fan too:) |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? Similar- not quite the same, at least in the UK. Aldi (and Lidl) are quite variable- excellent buys for some things. For example, fresh mozzarella, proscuitto di parma. They also had an _excellent_ syrupy balsamic vinegar a while back- the regular balsamic they have is fine, but nothing special. Also, when in season they stock local veg- excellent lancashire tomatoes in the ones here! Also, the baby leaf salad is good. At the moment, the jumbo shrimp and scallops are very good. Don't buy the lobster, very disappointing... Thanks David. When this cold has gone I shall go and have a look. I am a Lidl fan too:) We went there ......................................... ONCE :-(( Cheap and nasty Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
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Ophelia wrote:
June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? Similar- not quite the same, at least in the UK. Aldi (and Lidl) are quite variable- excellent buys for some things. For example, fresh mozzarella, proscuitto di parma. They also had an _excellent_ syrupy balsamic vinegar a while back- the regular balsamic they have is fine, but nothing special. Also, when in season they stock local veg- excellent lancashire tomatoes in the ones here! Also, the baby leaf salad is good. At the moment, the jumbo shrimp and scallops are very good. Don't buy the lobster, very disappointing... Thanks David. When this cold has gone I shall go and have a look. I am a Lidl fan too:) Some really good (cheap) chocolates! -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
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'Mike' wrote:
"Ophelia" wrote in message ... June Hughes wrote: [] Thanks David. When this cold has gone I shall go and have a look. I am a Lidl fan too:) We went there ......................................... ONCE :-(( Cheap and nasty It's cheap- I wouldn't call it nasty. Just variable- in that not all the stuff is great, but what _is_ good is consistently good. Aldi and Lidl almost only sell their own brands, and only one type of something. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
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In message , Ophelia
writes June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? Similar- not quite the same, at least in the UK. Aldi (and Lidl) are quite variable- excellent buys for some things. For example, fresh mozzarella, proscuitto di parma. They also had an _excellent_ syrupy balsamic vinegar a while back- the regular balsamic they have is fine, but nothing special. Also, when in season they stock local veg- excellent lancashire tomatoes in the ones here! Also, the baby leaf salad is good. At the moment, the jumbo shrimp and scallops are very good. Don't buy the lobster, very disappointing... Thanks David. When this cold has gone I shall go and have a look. I am a Lidl fan too:) Yes, I know, O but we don't have one near here. Finchley is reasonably close. -- June Hughes |
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June Hughes wrote:
[] Thanks David. When this cold has gone I shall go and have a look. Keep up with the hot toddies! :) (I recommend Caithness honey!) -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
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In message , "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)" writes Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? You can think of a medlar (Mespilus) as a giant haw (Crataegus); loquats (Eriobotrya) are also pome fruits, but so are apples, pears, serviceberries, and quite a few other plants. Interesting- I wonder why the 'confusion' in various language dictionaries about this. Googling tells me that loquats have also been known as Japanese medlars. That's probably the source of the confusion. One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla Ah, thanks. I'd only referred to it before when talking in Spanish, and it's the same spelling- my mistake! James Nicoll's epigram applies - "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary" -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? You can think of a medlar (Mespilus) as a giant haw (Crataegus); loquats (Eriobotrya) are also pome fruits, but so are apples, pears, serviceberries, and quite a few other plants. Interesting- I wonder why the 'confusion' in various language dictionaries about this. Googling tells me that loquats have also been known as Japanese medlars. That's probably the source of the confusion. Ah, interesting- thanks! Certainly, I found an online discussion where what were clearly loquats (in Italy) were being called medlars in English, nespole in Italian. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
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In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley writes: | | James Nicoll's epigram applies - | | "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that | English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow | words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways | to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary" Quite. The Larousse Francaise and the Shorter Oxford are about the same size, and go into comparable detail. The difference is that the former describes essentially the whole of the general French vocabulary, and the latter describes perhaps 1/3 of the general English one. And that's ignoring the tens of thousands of English dialects, argots, cants, jargons, pidgins and all that .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In article , "'Mike'" writes: | | I am a Lidl fan too:) | | We went there ......................................... ONCE :-(( | | Cheap and nasty You were a Lidl unimpressed? Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On 4/12/07 17:05, in article ,
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Ophelia wrote: Sacha wrote: On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? I think this is a bit like the Cydonia quince and the Chaenomeles quince, isn't it? One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Passion flower - Passiflora edulis and yes, delicious but unlikely to do much fruiting in the UK. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On 4/12/07 17:49, in article ,
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Charlie Pridham wrote: In article , says... [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit So I see, but when I think of passion fruit (at least what goes by that name here) it's quite different. Where is 'here'? The Passionflower most seen grown outdoors in UK is Passiflora caerulea. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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Sacha wrote:
On 4/12/07 17:49, in article , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Charlie Pridham wrote: In article , says... [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit So I see, but when I think of passion fruit (at least what goes by that name here) it's quite different. Where is 'here'? The Passionflower most seen grown outdoors in UK is Passiflora caerulea. UK- I'm talking about passion fruit you buy in shops... -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote in
: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes Ophelia wrote: Sacha wrote: On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? You can think of a medlar (Mespilus) as a giant haw (Crataegus); loquats (Eriobotrya) are also pome fruits, but so are apples, pears, serviceberries, and quite a few other plants. One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla Hello blast-from-the-past. -- Adrian Remove packaging and take out insurance before emailing me |
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Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , "'Mike'" writes: I am a Lidl fan too:) We went there ......................................... ONCE :-(( Cheap and nasty You were a Lidl unimpressed? G |
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On 4/12/07 19:07, in article ,
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Sacha wrote: On 4/12/07 17:49, in article , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Charlie Pridham wrote: In article , says... [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit So I see, but when I think of passion fruit (at least what goes by that name here) it's quite different. Where is 'here'? The Passionflower most seen grown outdoors in UK is Passiflora caerulea. UK- I'm talking about passion fruit you buy in shops... Oh, sorry. I'm on a single-track gardening mind, obviously! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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Sacha wrote:
On 4/12/07 19:07, in article , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Sacha wrote: On 4/12/07 17:49, in article , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Charlie Pridham wrote: In article , says... [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit So I see, but when I think of passion fruit (at least what goes by that name here) it's quite different. Where is 'here'? The Passionflower most seen grown outdoors in UK is Passiflora caerulea. UK- I'm talking about passion fruit you buy in shops... Oh, sorry. I'm on a single-track gardening mind, obviously! Does passion fruit grow on passiflora? |
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In article , "Ophelia" writes: | Sacha wrote: | | UK- I'm talking about passion fruit you buy in shops... | | Oh, sorry. I'm on a single-track gardening mind, obviously! | | Does passion fruit grow on passiflora? Yes. Passiflora edulis is the one most commonly found in shops, P. caerulea is the one most commonly grown outside (and has yellow fruit much like P. edulis, but insipid), several species can be grown in warm locations, and P. incarnata can be grown if its roots are dryish in winter. Lot of the warm-location and greenhouse ones produce edible fruit, often called granadilla in some countries. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
Stewart Robert Hinsley writes: snip | One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is | grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) | was selling them a while back... | | Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla We always knew it as grenadilla in Africa. Interesting. In Australia, the purple ones are known as passionfruit and the yellow ones as banana passionfruit. |
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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
James Nicoll's epigram applies - "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary" Superb! |
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On 4/12/07 20:00, in article
, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message Stewart Robert Hinsley writes: snip | One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is | grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) | was selling them a while back... | | Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla We always knew it as grenadilla in Africa. Interesting. In Australia, the purple ones are known as passionfruit and the yellow ones as banana passionfruit. The latter come from P. mollissima which is too tender to grow outdoors here. We have it here in a greenhouse and it has fruited but whether it ripens is another matter. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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In article ,
says... Charlie Pridham wrote: In article , says... [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit So I see, but when I think of passion fruit (at least what goes by that name here) it's quite different. There are dozens of different edible varieties cultivated for their fruit, all different shapes and sizes. the ones we get in supermarkets are the ones that are easiest to transport and store. We are just eating our way through the last of the banana passion fruits from P antioquiensis, sadly much of the fruit still green and outside at the time of the frost will not ripen, but we still have some indoor fruits to come. But they only last a few days off the plant -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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In article , says...
Sacha wrote: On 4/12/07 19:07, in article , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Sacha wrote: On 4/12/07 17:49, in article , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Charlie Pridham wrote: In article , says... [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit So I see, but when I think of passion fruit (at least what goes by that name here) it's quite different. Where is 'here'? The Passionflower most seen grown outdoors in UK is Passiflora caerulea. UK- I'm talking about passion fruit you buy in shops... Oh, sorry. I'm on a single-track gardening mind, obviously! Does passion fruit grow on passiflora? Yes, all are edible when ripe but quite a number are not worth eating. Never eat them green though as they contain cyanide! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Following up to "Ophelia" wrote:
Does passion fruit grow on passiflora? it does on mine -- Mike Remove clothing to email |
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says... On 4/12/07 17:05, in article , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Ophelia wrote: Sacha wrote: On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? I think this is a bit like the Cydonia quince and the Chaenomeles quince, isn't it? One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Passion flower - Passiflora edulis and yes, delicious but unlikely to do much fruiting in the UK. I think one of the reasons people get a poor crop is that when grown commercially they have cross polinators of different passion flowers every so many plants (sorry don't know which one) but folk dont have the space for that in their greenhouses :~) -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
On 5/12/07 08:40, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article , says... On 4/12/07 17:05, in article , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor *" wrote: Ophelia wrote: Sacha wrote: On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? I think this is a bit like the Cydonia quince and the Chaenomeles quince, isn't it? One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Passion flower - Passiflora edulis and yes, delicious but unlikely to do much fruiting in the UK. I think one of the reasons people get a poor crop is that when grown commercially they have cross polinators of different passion flowers every so many plants (sorry don't know which one) but folk dont have the space for that in their greenhouses :~) I just don't think we get enough sun hours to get them to fruit and/or ripen here. In a hot summer I had fruit on Passiflora caerulea outside in the garden but it didn't ripen. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
In article , Sacha writes: | | I just don't think we get enough sun hours to get them to fruit and/or ripen | here. In a hot summer I had fruit on Passiflora caerulea outside in the | garden but it didn't ripen. I have had them ripen - but they weren't exciting. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
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Tupper writes Hello blast-from-the-past. uk.r.w? -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Following up to Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote: Hello blast-from-the-past. uk.r.w? yes, him, you and me! IIRC discussing how many true mountains* compose the hills surrounding Glencoe. *mountain as massif not sub peaks. -- Mike Remove clothing to email |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote in
: In message , Adrian Tupper writes Hello blast-from-the-past. uk.r.w? Yup. Haven't been there for a few years. I had a middle name in those days. -- Adrian Remove packaging and take out insurance before emailing me |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Following up to Adrian Tupper
wrote: uk.r.w? Yup. Haven't been there for a few years. I had a middle name in those days. "bog tupper" wasnt it? :-) -- Mike Remove clothing to email |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Mike..... wrote:
Following up to Adrian Tupper wrote: uk.r.w? Yup. Haven't been there for a few years. I had a middle name in those days. "bog tupper" wasnt it? :-) Now, now Mike, you know it was Marsh. Gosh how on earth did I remember that |
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