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Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
In message , Mogga
writes On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:04:25 -0500, "Dora Crawford" wrote: June Hughes wrote: In message , limey writes June Hughes wrote: PS Note for limey and Sacha - as a result of looking I have found my Sarah Brown Vegetarian Cookery book - Oh joy! Joy, indeed! Thanks Dora. The downside is, I have a cold and can't taste anything. Lemon juice and a good shot of whiskey in a mug, fill with boiling water and stir. Drink it as hot as possible - probably won't cure your cold, but you'll feel soothed! (I'm not kidding - it works for me.) Hope you're better soon. My version is a spoonfull of honey, lemon juice, dash of whiskey and then fill up mug with hot water. Ah! Honey. This gets better and better:) It's ages since I had a cold as bad as this. Off to make a hot toddy:)) -- June Hughes |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
On 3/12/07 20:34, in article , "Dora
Crawford" wrote: Mogga wrote: On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:04:25 -0500, "Dora Crawford" wrote: June Hughes wrote: Thanks Dora. The downside is, I have a cold and can't taste anything. Lemon juice and a good shot of whiskey in a mug, fill with boiling water and stir. Drink it as hot as possible - probably won't cure your cold, but you'll feel soothed! (I'm not kidding - it works for me.) Hope you're better soon. My version is a spoonfull of honey, lemon juice, dash of whiskey and then fill up mug with hot water. Oops - I left out the sweetener. Thanks for reminding me before I get my next cold! The only good thing about a cold is the hot toddy you can make to comfort it! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Sacha wrote:
On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
In article , "Ophelia" writes: | | All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, | blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with | them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown | fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. Quinces have been grown in the UK for centuries, but are a bit tricky. Japanese quinces / Chaenomeles / japonica are normally grown as flowering plants, and the fruit just sort of happens :-) While the latter makes excellent jelly, cheese, chutney and can be eaten in pies and other puddings, most people don't bother. But they are very decorative flowers and need no attention for producing fruit. Literally NO attention - even less than blackberries :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Ophelia wrote:
Sacha wrote: On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
In message , "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)" writes Ophelia wrote: Sacha wrote: On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? -- June Hughes |
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Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
In article ,
says... Ophelia wrote: Sacha wrote: On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
In message , "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)" writes Ophelia wrote: Sacha wrote: On 3/12/07 17:00, in article , "Mike...." wrote: Following up to (Nick Maclaren) wrote: "Some sort of japonica", in normal usage, can mean only one of the Chaenomeles. Japonica as the name of a group of plants means that and nothing else. are there not various "japanese" quinces? I understood the meaning to be that. I had an ormamental one in the garden for a time. Japanese quinces are usually understood to be Chaenomeles and then there are named varieties of that. AFAIK, you can make jelly from them. Cydonia is the true quince with the large, golden, roughly pear-shaped fruit - these are real beauties when mature trees but they're not the 'mysterious fruit' I'm trying to ID. All this sounds so exotic to me. I tend to grow apples, plums, blackberries, rhubarb and blackcurrants. We do eat them and I cook with them. I suppose it is because it is what I grew up with:) I do try unknown fruits but somehow I can't get to grips with them. I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? You can think of a medlar (Mespilus) as a giant haw (Crataegus); loquats (Eriobotrya) are also pome fruits, but so are apples, pears, serviceberries, and quite a few other plants. One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Charlie Pridham wrote:
In article , says... [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Grenadilla is one of several species of Passion fruit So I see, but when I think of passion fruit (at least what goes by that name here) it's quite different. -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
June Hughes wrote:
In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? Similar- not quite the same, at least in the UK. Aldi (and Lidl) are quite variable- excellent buys for some things. For example, fresh mozzarella, proscuitto di parma. They also had an _excellent_ syrupy balsamic vinegar a while back- the regular balsamic they have is fine, but nothing special. Also, when in season they stock local veg- excellent lancashire tomatoes in the ones here! Also, the baby leaf salad is good. At the moment, the jumbo shrimp and scallops are very good. Don't buy the lobster, very disappointing... -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] I had fun trying to ID nisperos in English- as I only ever knew them by the spanish name. It's loquat, but the Italian nespole (that's what they were called in a market when we bought them in Rome) translates as medlar fruit, which I don't think is the same thing- though related IIRC? You can think of a medlar (Mespilus) as a giant haw (Crataegus); loquats (Eriobotrya) are also pome fruits, but so are apples, pears, serviceberries, and quite a few other plants. Interesting- I wonder why the 'confusion' in various language dictionaries about this. One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla Ah, thanks. I'd only referred to it before when talking in Spanish, and it's the same spelling- my mistake! -- (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website "He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush" |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley writes: | | You can think of a medlar (Mespilus) as a giant haw (Crataegus); loquats | (Eriobotrya) are also pome fruits, but so are apples, pears, | serviceberries, and quite a few other plants. Indeed. Of the traditional tree fruits grown in the UK, nearly half are pome fruits and most of the others are in the plum/cherry group. | One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is | grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) | was selling them a while back... | | Yes, there is an English name; it is granadilla. | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadilla We always knew it as grenadilla in Africa. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Trying to ID a mysterious fruit
In message , "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)" writes June Hughes wrote: In message , "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" writes [] One fruit I particularly like but don't see much in the UK shops is grenadilla (is there an English name?). Divine! Lidl (of all places!) was selling them a while back... We don't have a Lidl near here, although they have just opened an Aldi in North Finchley. Are they similar in what they sell, please? Similar- not quite the same, at least in the UK. Aldi (and Lidl) are quite variable- excellent buys for some things. For example, fresh mozzarella, proscuitto di parma. They also had an _excellent_ syrupy balsamic vinegar a while back- the regular balsamic they have is fine, but nothing special. Also, when in season they stock local veg- excellent lancashire tomatoes in the ones here! Also, the baby leaf salad is good. At the moment, the jumbo shrimp and scallops are very good. Don't buy the lobster, very disappointing... Thanks David. When this cold has gone I shall go and have a look. -- June Hughes |
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