Norfolk Island Pine
We visited New Zealand earlier this year. The Norfolk Island Pine is well
established as an ornamemental tree/shrub in North Island, and I saw one growing as far south as Te Anau in South Island. We live in South Devon with a south facing garden, slope 1 in 6 to 1 in 10. Jen and I were very taken by the appearance of this tree-symetric branches like cut paper patterns. Best information suggests that it is a no/no in the UK and that it is rarely grown in the US. I know that on Norfolk Island (29deg.S 50ins of rain a year) it can grow to 200ft high, 10ft diameter. Has anyone experience of it as a house or patio plan, or even outdoors in the UK? Regards David T |
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The Scilly Isles are the only place in the UK that it survives. It is sold
as a house plant in this country. |
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in article , Peter Crosland at
wrote on 20/4/03 2:51 pm: The Scilly Isles are the only place in the UK that it survives. It is sold as a house plant in this country. We've seen them in the Abbey Gardens in Tresco and in Hawaii! I don't recall seeing them in California but I'll ask American friends. -- Sacha |
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We've seen them in the Abbey Gardens in Tresco and in Hawaii! I don't recall seeing them in California but I'll ask American friends. Although they are a native of Norfolk Island they are widely planted in places such a California and parts of Australasia. |
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In article , "Peter Crosland" wrote:
We've seen them in the Abbey Gardens in Tresco and in Hawaii! I don't recall seeing them in California but I'll ask American friends. Although they are a native of Norfolk Island they are widely planted in places such a California and parts of Australasia. The only place I've seen them in California is in San Diego - southern California, and even there, only within maybe 5-10 miles of the ocean. cheers, Marj * * * Marj Tiefert: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/ Marj's Mini Mall: http://stores.tiefert.com/ Coleridge shop: http://www.cafeshops.com/coleridgestore Marjorie's Morning Star: http://newsletter.tiefert.com/ science editing services: http://science.tiefert.com/ |
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We visited New Zealand earlier this year. The Norfolk Island Pine is well established as an ornamemental tree/shrub in North Island, and I saw one growing as far south as Te Anau in South Island. We live in South Devon with a south facing garden, slope 1 in 6 to 1 in 10. Jen and I were very taken by the appearance of this tree-symetric branches like cut paper patterns. Best information suggests that it is a no/no in the UK and that it is rarely grown in the US. I know that on Norfolk Island (29deg.S 50ins of rain a year) it can grow to 200ft high, 10ft diameter. Has anyone experience of it as a house or patio plan, or even outdoors in the UK? Regards David T Saw one today growing just inside the entrance to the Glasshouse at RHS Wisley. It is about 8ft tall. Natalie |
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Thanks for the information Natalie. After posting I had done some
researching of conditions with respect to our garden. We're resolved to give it a go on a sheltered southerly facing slope, with maybe close protection in winter. A significant issue is the cost when there is a significant risk of losing the tree Regards David T Saw one today growing just inside the entrance to the Glasshouse at RHS Wisley. It is about 8ft tall. Natalie |
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There's a light hearted debate going on in New Zealand at the moment that The Norfolk island Pine should be treated as a native here in New Zealand as Norfolk island's flora is closer to NZ than Australia. Norfolk Island also has Phormium or NZ Flax and a few Coprosmas and Pittosporum. Norfolk Pine is well established as an ornamental tree particularly next to the Beach. It grows well in Wellington and they have become part of the Wellington skyscape along Oriental Parade. Children love to climb them as the regular branching makes for easy climbing. Many a kiwikid has gone far too high, much to the concern of their parents! I would think that as Cordyline australis (Cabbage Tree) grows well in Southern Britain then Norfolk Pine would like wise do well, however in a more sandy,gravel, coastal spot. check out my website www.bushmansfriend.co.nz |
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Thanks for the information Natalie. After posting I had done some researching of conditions with respect to our garden. We're resolved to give it a go on a sheltered southerly facing slope, with maybe close protection in winter. A significant issue is the cost when there is a significant risk of losing the tree Regards David T Saw one today growing just inside the entrance to the Glasshouse at RHS Wisley. It is about 8ft tall. Natalie Living in the north of New Zealand I am familiar with the Norfolk Pine(Agathis heterophylla). It is closely related to the NZ Kauri Agathis australis. There's a light hearted debate going on in New Zealand at the moment that The Norfolk island Pine should be treated as a native here in New Zealand as Norfolk island's flora is closer to NZ than Australia. Norfolk Island also has Phormium or NZ Flax and a few Coprosmas and Pittosporum. Norfolk Pine is well established as an ornamental tree particularly next to the Beach. It grows well in Wellington and they have become part of the Wellington skyscape along Oriental Parade. Children love to climb them as the regular branching makes for easy climbing. Many a kiwikid has gone far too high, much to the concern of their parents! I would think that as Cordyline australis (Cabbage Tree) grows well in Southern Britain then Norfolk Pine would like wise do well, however in a more sandy,gravel, coastal spot. check out my website www.bushmansfriend.co.nz Can someone update me n the taxonomy please? I know the Norfolk Island Pine as Araucaria heterophylla. So is Agathis the new designation, an older one, or something different altogether? -- Kay |
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He also has it wrong in thinking that because I can grow a Cordyline in many places in Britain we can also grow Norfolk Island Pine here. We can't, outside the Scillies. |
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 17:15:39 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote: The message from bushman contains these words: I would think that as Cordyline australis (Cabbage Tree) grows well in Southern Britain then Norfolk Pine would like wise do well, however in a more sandy,gravel, coastal spot. Cordyline does well as an open garden plant much further north, all up the west coast of Scotland. Not least because given a mild winter climate (just a few degrees of frost), it's very tolerant of high wind and high rainfall. I can easily grow many NZ plants outside here but not Norfolk Pine. Norfolk Pine hasn't got nearly such a wide range as an outdoor survivor in the UK. Janet. (Isle of Arran, west coast of Scotland). Agreed. IIRC they have a few on Tresco, and possibly in one or two of the very sheltered NT gardens in west Cornwall (Glendurgan?), but I wouldn't even consider it in my garden also in west Cornwall. -- Chris E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net |
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