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'Mike' 29-01-2008 06:16 PM

1940's Garden
 
I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know what
you grew in your garden in the 1940's. I would also welcome any recipe from
the 1940's

AND, jokes from the 1940's???????????

Mike

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Nick Maclaren 29-01-2008 06:24 PM

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In article ,
"'Mike'" writes:
|
| I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know what
| you grew in your garden in the 1940's. I would also welcome any recipe from
| the 1940's

Bananas, okra, yam, chillis, soursop, sweet potatoes, moonflower etc.

Groundnut stew - or, for even more authenticity, palm oil stew.
The former needs a team to make it properly, and isn't worth it
for less than a dozen people. Follow it by fried plantains.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sam 29-01-2008 08:31 PM

1940's Garden
 
'Mike' wrote:
I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know what
you grew in your garden in the 1940's. I would also welcome any recipe from
the 1940's

AND, jokes from the 1940's???????????

Mike



Jacket potatoes, Mike. Remember Potato Pete?

They had not long gone to bed when the familiar roar of bomber engines
was heard approaching.She was already asleep but he said with a nudge
"jerry's over".
"Ok,I'll mop it up in the morning".
Sam

'Mike' 29-01-2008 08:50 PM

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"sam" wrote in message
...
'Mike' wrote:
I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know what
you grew in your garden in the 1940's. I would also welcome any recipe
from the 1940's

AND, jokes from the 1940's???????????

Mike



Jacket potatoes, Mike. Remember Potato Pete?

They had not long gone to bed when the familiar roar of bomber engines
was heard approaching.She was already asleep but he said with a nudge
"jerry's over".
"Ok,I'll mop it up in the morning".
Sam


Thanks Sam. That's the first one in and is in the files :-))

Feel sure I can do that one with sound effects of the Bombers :-)

Potato Pete, yes I remember him :-)

I do have a couple of genuine War Time cook books and a new one just out
about Rationing. That one has some recipes in but I could do with more.

Mike


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[email protected] 29-01-2008 09:02 PM

1940's Garden
 
On 29 Jan, 18:24, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
Bananas, okra, yam, chillis, soursop, sweet potatoes, moonflower etc.


Rather exotic. What is moonflower, honeysuckle? And soursop? Where you
in west africa in the 40s?!

Groundnut stew - or, for even more authenticity, palm oil stew.
The former needs a team to make it properly, and isn't worth it
for less than a dozen people. *Follow it by fried plantains.


Plantains? From the Carribeans?

graham 29-01-2008 10:05 PM

1940's Garden
 

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know what
you grew in your garden in the 1940's. I would also welcome any recipe from
the 1940's

Interesting! You often act as the resident net-nanny but you've
cross-posted this message. I thought that that is a no-no on usenet, in
spite of the hordes that do it.
Graham



'Mike' 29-01-2008 10:18 PM

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"graham" wrote in message
news:iqNnj.24669$ow.7278@pd7urf1no...

"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know what
you grew in your garden in the 1940's. I would also welcome any recipe
from the 1940's

Interesting! You often act as the resident net-nanny but you've
cross-posted this message. I thought that that is a no-no on usenet, in
spite of the hordes that do it.
Graham


What part of the charter referencing cross posting to relevant newsgroups do
you not understand?

May I help you please?

""grew in your garden in the 1940's"" = uk.rec.gardening

""I would also welcome any recipe from the 1940's"" = uk.food+drink.misc

Kindest regards

Mike


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After a lot of trouble www.nsrafa.org is now up and running for the National
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Nick Maclaren 29-01-2008 10:26 PM

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In article ,
Anne Jackson writes:
| The message from contains these words:
| On 29 Jan, 18:24, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
| Bananas, okra, yam, chillis, soursop, sweet potatoes, moonflower etc.
|
| Rather exotic. What is moonflower, honeysuckle? And soursop? Where you
| in west africa in the 40s?!

Where I was then, it was apples that were exotic :-)

Ipomoea alba, a.k.a. Calonyction bona-nox, a.k.a. Ipomoea bona-nox.
An excellent annual to grow in a conservatory or even south facing
room.

I was indeed in West Africa - I was born in Nigeria in 1947! To be
strictly truthful, I was rather young and the time, and cannot swear
that my mother had a garden there - but that is the sort of thing she
would have grown if so. We moved to Zambia (Northern Rhodesia) in
about 1950.

| Groundnut stew - or, for even more authenticity, palm oil stew.
| The former needs a team to make it properly, and isn't worth it
| for less than a dozen people. *Follow it by fried plantains.
|
| Plantains? From the Carribeans?
|
| Many of the Caribbean islands were part of the British Empire.
| Of course they sent us food!

I have never been there. They were and are also widespread throughout
the suitable parts of Africa.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha 29-01-2008 10:45 PM

1940's Garden
 
On 29/1/08 21:38, in article , "Anne
Jackson" wrote:

The message from
(Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
In article ,
"'Mike'" writes:
|
| I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know
| what you grew in your garden in the 1940's. I would also welcome any
| recipe from the 1940's


Bananas, okra, yam, chillis, soursop, sweet potatoes, moonflower etc.


Groundnut stew - or, for even more authenticity, palm oil stew.
The former needs a team to make it properly, and isn't worth it
for less than a dozen people. Follow it by fried plantains.


I couldn't help thinking how absolutely typical of this chancer,
to get someone else to do the spadework for him. I suppose,
though, that it's progress - to get a tacit admission that he
doesn't know *everything*!


But you must admit that Nick's reply is a gem, even if it goes unrecognised!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



[email protected] 29-01-2008 11:14 PM

1940's Garden
 
On 29 Jan, 22:26, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
Where I was then, it was apples that were exotic :-)
Ipomoea alba, a.k.a. Calonyction bona-nox, a.k.a. Ipomoea bona-nox.
An excellent annual to grow in a conservatory or even south facing
room.


Can I risk it and say Morning Glory? ;o)

I was indeed in West Africa - I was born in Nigeria in 1947! *To be
strictly truthful, I was rather young and the time, and cannot swear
that my mother had a garden there - but that is the sort of thing she
would have grown if so. *We moved to Zambia (Northern Rhodesia) in
about 1950.


Ah! I had a lot of relatives in Senegal because my uncle worked in
import/export and 5 of my cousins were born and bred there. When they
came back they brought lots of strange habits, notably food, that and
a helper/maid who followed them, because all his kids were counting on
him making good money and my family couldn't refuse. A lovely man who
gave me my nickname and I have found memories of his mechoui! Anyway -
I'm growing the Gloriosa in memory of a friend from Zimbabwe, which
reminds me, there's no sign of life from the plant yet, though it
flowered beautifully last year (I got it at the RHS Harrogate), and it
produced a fat pod which opened and revealed jewel like seeds. When
the plant died, around October, I pruned it to the base. Now would you
have any advice? Should I just sit tight and watch?

Richard Tobin 29-01-2008 11:53 PM

1940's Garden
 
In article iqNnj.24669$ow.7278@pd7urf1no, graham wrote:

Interesting! You often act as the resident net-nanny but you've
cross-posted this message. I thought that that is a no-no on usenet, in
spite of the hordes that do it.


Where did you get that idea? Why do you think cross-posting exists,
if you're not supposed to do it? If a subject is of interest to
multiple newsgroups, then cross-posting is exactly the right thing to
do.

-- Richard
--
:wq

Elaine Jones 30-01-2008 02:39 AM

1940's Garden
 
Quoting from message
posted on 29 Jan 2008 by 'Mike'
I would like to add:

I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know what
you grew in your garden in the 1940's.


From memories of grandparents' village garden, which hadn't changed
for years and didn't for years afterwards:

Orchard area - Cooking apples, eating apples, cooking plums, dessert
plums, damsons, greengage.

Other fruit - raspberries, blackberries, strawberries, cooking
gooseberries, dessert gooseberris, black, red and white currants.

Veg - various cabbages, cauliflowers,b. sprouts, parsnips, carrots,
early and maincrop potatoes, beetroot, purple sprouting broccoli,
leeks, onions, massive asparagus bed, lettuce, tomatoes and cucumbers
(small leanto greenhouse), marrows, peas, broad beans, runner beans,
turnips, radishes (and during the war a patch of sugar beet for
sweetening fruit pies and puddings).

Herbs - sage, marjoram, parsley, mints, thyme, rosemary and roots of
horseradish.

Large compost heap and lots of flowers.

Grandma used to bottle or salt down stuff from the garden.

They had a few outbuildings and small paddock so had hens and pigs for
eggs and meat and a cow for milk (and butter).

I think the 'powers that were' tried to keep tabs on pigs but
nevertheless coupons for my grandparents, great aunt and her daughter,
and my mum went quite a way for that which they couldn't provide
themselves.

There was also an unofficial source of rabbits, hares, pheasants and
partridges.

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'Mike' 30-01-2008 08:31 AM

1940's Garden
 


"Elaine Jones" wrote in message
...
Quoting from message
posted on 29 Jan 2008 by 'Mike'
I would like to add:

I have been invited to present a 1940's Night and would love to know what
you grew in your garden in the 1940's.


From memories of grandparents' village garden, which hadn't changed
for years and didn't for years afterwards:

Orchard area - Cooking apples, eating apples, cooking plums, dessert
plums, damsons, greengage.

Other fruit - raspberries, blackberries, strawberries, cooking
gooseberries, dessert gooseberris, black, red and white currants.

Veg - various cabbages, cauliflowers,b. sprouts, parsnips, carrots,
early and maincrop potatoes, beetroot, purple sprouting broccoli,
leeks, onions, massive asparagus bed, lettuce, tomatoes and cucumbers
(small leanto greenhouse), marrows, peas, broad beans, runner beans,
turnips, radishes (and during the war a patch of sugar beet for
sweetening fruit pies and puddings).

Herbs - sage, marjoram, parsley, mints, thyme, rosemary and roots of
horseradish.

Large compost heap and lots of flowers.

Grandma used to bottle or salt down stuff from the garden.

They had a few outbuildings and small paddock so had hens and pigs for
eggs and meat and a cow for milk (and butter).

I think the 'powers that were' tried to keep tabs on pigs but
nevertheless coupons for my grandparents, great aunt and her daughter,
and my mum went quite a way for that which they couldn't provide
themselves.

There was also an unofficial source of rabbits, hares, pheasants and
partridges.

--
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.Virtual. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ejones/ufdi/index.html
StrongArm Under construction, FAQ, recipes, tips, booklist, links
.RISC PC. Questions and suggestions please, email or to the newsgroup


My word that brought a lot back from when I had a Aunt who lived in the
countryside in Oxford :-)

Pigs and Pig Keeping during the Second World War is a very interesting
subject and is covered quite a bit in a book I have. I also remember the Pig
Bins in the Road for our scraps. There were 'Pig Clubs' and a certain amount
of help was given if you were in a situation to keep a pig or more, but as I
understand it, you had to give some of the meat up!! If they found out about
the pig that is.

Forgot where I read it, but a lovely story of a pig which had been
slaughtered and was kept in a bed, covered as 'A departed one' with I
believe, candles and a Bible on the 'covered departed one'. :-)) (I have
reason to believe it was in the Channel Islands when they were occupied

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates.
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
After a lot of trouble www.nsrafa.org is now up and running for the National
Service RAF man







'Mike' 30-01-2008 09:08 AM

1940's Garden
 


Pigs and Pig Keeping during the Second World War is a very interesting
subject and is covered quite a bit in a book I have. I also remember the
Pig Bins in the Road for our scraps. There were 'Pig Clubs' and a certain
amount of help was given if you were in a situation to keep a pig or more,
but as I understand it, you had to give some of the meat up!! If they
found out about the pig that is.


Thank you Joan in Gloucester.

"You either gave up your Bacon Ration or Half a Pig"

Mike

--
www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates.
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
After a lot of trouble www.nsrafa.org is now up and running for the National
Service RAF man




Nick Maclaren 30-01-2008 09:49 AM

1940's Garden
 

In article ,
writes:
| On 29 Jan, 22:26, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
| Where I was then, it was apples that were exotic :-)
| Ipomoea alba, a.k.a. Calonyction bona-nox, a.k.a. Ipomoea bona-nox.
| An excellent annual to grow in a conservatory or even south facing
| room.
|
| Can I risk it and say Morning Glory? ;o)

You can, but it is very different to the common one. Large, white,
opens at night, and strongly and sweetly scented.

| A lovely man who
| gave me my nickname and I have found memories of his mechoui! Anyway -
| I'm growing the Gloriosa in memory of a friend from Zimbabwe, which
| reminds me, there's no sign of life from the plant yet, though it
| flowered beautifully last year (I got it at the RHS Harrogate), and it
| produced a fat pod which opened and revealed jewel like seeds. When
| the plant died, around October, I pruned it to the base. Now would you
| have any advice? Should I just sit tight and watch?

You can sow the seeds, but it will probably regrow from its tuber
when the weather warms up. Keep it pretty dry until then. Both
the tuber and seeds need very well-drained soil, warm and sunny
conditions when growing, but don't mind down to almost freezing
when dormant and dry.

I grew it (from seed) for some years, but it got a root rot of some
sort and effectively died.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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