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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... "OG" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote in message ... And the "Mathematics"? ;-( The preceding article is a piece of fiction - made up for propaganda purposes and to dupe the gullilble Oh I see, you don't think the standard of Mathematics has gone down over the years? I do If you wish to argue that point, why not put forward some evidence ? Or did you think it was a genuine set of questions? You did, didn't you! Oh, you wonderful wonderful gullible fool! You've just made my day! |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:44:43 +0100, Anne Jackson wrote: The message from "OG" contains these words: "'Mike'" attempted to enlighten us with: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( The preceding article is a piece of fiction - made up for propaganda purposes and to dupe the gullible That's what happens when a stupid person tries to be smart... ;-) Stupid yes and nothing whatever to do with gardening, but it has been several weeks since he succeeded in starting an argument and he obviously thought he was due for one. We need an FAQ for newcomers to advise them not to deal with this verminous old fool. Fair point - apologies. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standardof education
'Mike' wrote: Evolution of British Mathematics Teaching 1. Teaching Mathematics In 1970 A logger sells a lorry load of timber for £100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit? 2. Teaching Mathematics In 1980 A logger sells a lorry load of timber for £100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or £80. What is his profit? 3. Teaching Mathematics In 1990 A logger sells a lorry load of timber for £100. His cost of production is £80. Did he make a profit? 4. Teaching Mathematics In 2000 A logger sells a lorry load of timber for £100. His cost of production is £80 and his profit is £20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20. 5. Teaching Mathematics In 2008 A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals nor for the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of £20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers. ):-( Mike None of your examples contain any shred of mathematics. The subject is alive and well for those who engage in the real stuff. Just check out the many maths sites Mike. Try e.g. Sizefitter, I will provide you a courtesy key to the program. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Anne Jackson" wrote in message ... The message from "OG" contains these words: "'Mike'" attempted to enlighten us with: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( The preceding article is a piece of fiction - made up for propaganda purposes and to dupe the gullible That's what happens when a stupid person tries to be smart... ;-) -- AnneJ Yes Anne, you missed the point as well :-( Never mind Mike I wonder why people are so rude when it's not necessary, life's too short |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
"'Mike'" wrote:
And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standardof education
brian mitchell wrote: "'Mike'" wrote: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell When I went to school a lot of many years ago, there were no concern about learning to cope with conditions that I would meet as adult; that kind of knowledge was considered 'trivial', something you could always pick up as and when necessary. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
"brian mitchell" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell So you feel that these other issues are more important than Maths? I don't think so and I feel that the 'example' is very typical of how we are ignoring the basics and it is down to Political Correctness. Even others subscribing to the thread failed to pick up the message. Are they PC Brainwashed as well? Mike |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
"johannes" wrote in message ... brian mitchell wrote: "'Mike'" wrote: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell When I went to school a lot of many years ago, there were no concern about learning to cope with conditions that I would meet as adult; that kind of knowledge was considered 'trivial', something you could always pick up as and when necessary. You were taught the 'basics', the 'grounding' of education. Thank you. My point. PC didn't come into it. Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standardof education
'Mike' wrote: "johannes" wrote in message ... brian mitchell wrote: "'Mike'" wrote: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell When I went to school a lot of many years ago, there were no concern about learning to cope with conditions that I would meet as adult; that kind of knowledge was considered 'trivial', something you could always pick up as and when necessary. You were taught the 'basics', the 'grounding' of education. Thank you. My point. PC didn't come into it. Nevertheless. The younger people in their 20's that I work with have no shortage of mathematical skills. Explain that one Mike... It's horses for courses. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:11:01 +0100, johannes
wrote and included this (or some of this): When I went to school a lot of many years ago, there were no concern about learning to cope with conditions that I would meet as adult; that kind of knowledge was considered 'trivial', something you could always pick up as and when necessary. You were taught the 'basics', the 'grounding' of education. Thank you. My point. PC didn't come into it. Nevertheless. The younger people in their 20's that I work with have no shortage of mathematical skills. Explain that one Mike... It's horses for courses. They eat horses, don't they? -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standardof education
'Mike' wrote: "brian mitchell" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell So you feel that these other issues are more important than Maths? What you call Maths Mike, other people call Numeracy. Mathematics is deeper and more abstract. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
"johannes" wrote in message ... 'Mike' wrote: "brian mitchell" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell So you feel that these other issues are more important than Maths? What you call Maths Mike, other people call Numeracy. Mathematics is deeper and more abstract. Shall we simplify it for you and say, the capability of adding £3.27 and £17.46, even when written down, without a calculator? ""THAT"" is the point I am making. Kindest regards Mike ps. should you have difficulty in grasping what I am getting at, please do not hesitate to come back to me and I will try to simplify it even further. -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standardof education
'Mike' wrote: "johannes" wrote in message ... 'Mike' wrote: "brian mitchell" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell So you feel that these other issues are more important than Maths? What you call Maths Mike, other people call Numeracy. Mathematics is deeper and more abstract. Shall we simplify it for you and say, the capability of adding £3.27 and £17.46, even when written down, without a calculator? ""THAT"" is the point I am making. Kindest regards Mike ps. should you have difficulty in grasping what I am getting at, please do not hesitate to come back to me and I will try to simplify it even further. -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standardof education
'Mike' wrote: "johannes" wrote in message ... 'Mike' wrote: "brian mitchell" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote: And the "Mathematics"? ;-( This would have to be a long, off-topic conversation on culture and education, but the mindset which promotes knowledge as a matter of value-free, abstract technique --such as mathematics-- may not be the mindset that kids now in primary school need to best cope with the conditions they will meet as adults. Those spoof questions rather neatly characterise the issue. It's a changing world. Brian Mitchell So you feel that these other issues are more important than Maths? What you call Maths Mike, other people call Numeracy. Mathematics is deeper and more abstract. Shall we simplify it for you and say, the capability of adding £3.27 and £17.46, even when written down, without a calculator? ""THAT"" is the point I am making. No you don't. You were making a point about Numeracy or Arithmetic. Maths or Mathematics is the wrong word for your examples. Mathematics is such things like Calculus and Algebra for starters, but is is a pervasive subject, always has been and always will be. Have you tried Sizefitter yet? It is free for you; I'm the inventor, author and programmer. |
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Wonderful example of PC interference and down turn in the standard of education
"Anne Jackson" wrote in message ... The message from johannes contains these words: No you don't. You were making a point about Numeracy or Arithmetic. Maths or Mathematics is the wrong word for your examples. Mathematics is such things like Calculus and Algebra for starters, but is is a pervasive subject, always has been and always will be. Have you tried Sizefitter yet? It is free for you; I'm the inventor, author and programmer. Johannes, it's best to ignore Mike Crowe. He makes these off-topic posts so that he can splash his sig. around the net - in the hopes of enticing people who know no better to attend his reunions. He also likes to be condescending, as you may have noticed? He doesn't know the difference between Arithmetic and Maths, and is too old now to learn. You can't teach someone with a closed mind, it would be like trying to educate pork... -- AnneJ Is that what smoking does to you? :-(( Good warning for others. Johannes has been showing himself up on newsgroups for a very long time now and he is the one best ignored. Kindest possible regards. Mike -- www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. |
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