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Judith in France 09-05-2008 11:26 AM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.

Judith

Nick Maclaren 09-05-2008 11:31 AM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 

In article ,
Judith in France writes:
| I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
| delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
| your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
| colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
| is the brief in the subject line.

I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
"The President", which is an extreme purple.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha[_3_] 09-05-2008 11:47 AM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On 9/5/08 11:26, in article
, "Judith
in France" wrote:

I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.

Judith


C. Vyvyan Pennell is purple and well OTT but C. Arctic Queen is a white
double with flowers up to 6" across. Don't forget I told you about Guy
Sissons! Specialises in climbers.
http://www.plantsman.com/

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



stuart noble 09-05-2008 12:17 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
Martin wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 03:26:58 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:

I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.


IOW Mike does obscene well.



Talking of in-your-face decadence.....

http://i31.tinypic.com/2cmnlaw.jpg

Judith in France 09-05-2008 12:46 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On May 9, 11:31 am, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article ,
Judith in France writes:
| I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
| delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
| your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
| colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
| is the brief in the subject line.

I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
"The President", which is an extreme purple.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Thanks Nick, noted.

Judith

Judith in France 09-05-2008 12:48 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On May 9, 11:47 am, Sacha wrote:
On 9/5/08 11:26, in article
, "Judith

in France" wrote:
I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.


Judith


C. Vyvyan Pennell is purple and well OTT but C. Arctic Queen is a white
double with flowers up to 6" across. Don't forget I told you about Guy
Sissons! Specialises in climbers.http://www.plantsman.com/

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Thanks Sacha, I like the sound of Artic White. I got some Gillian
Blades from Charlie but I left them at the other house, sadly.

Judith

Judith in France 09-05-2008 12:49 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On May 9, 11:51 am, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 03:26:58 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France

wrote:
I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.


IOW Mike does obscene well.
--

Martin


Behave yourself Martin!!!! Have you had a glass with your lunch? How
about posting a pic for me of your jardin?

Judith

Judith in France 09-05-2008 12:49 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On May 9, 12:17 pm, stuart noble wrote:
Martin wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 03:26:58 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:


I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.


IOW Mike does obscene well.


Talking of in-your-face decadence.....

http://i31.tinypic.com/2cmnlaw.jpg


What is it Stuart? I like the wall behind too!!

Judith

Judith in France 09-05-2008 12:59 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On May 9, 11:47 am, Sacha wrote:
On 9/5/08 11:26, in article
, "Judith

in France" wrote:
I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.


Judith


C. Vyvyan Pennell is purple and well OTT but C. Arctic Queen is a white
double with flowers up to 6" across. Don't forget I told you about Guy
Sissons! Specialises in climbers.http://www.plantsman.com/

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


I just took a look at Arctic Queen, gorgeous, now to see if I can buy
one here in France as postage is quite expensive to send them from
England. I took a look at Guy's site, brilliant unusual climbers, I
would enjoy half a day strolling round there

Judith

Sacha[_3_] 09-05-2008 01:06 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On 9/5/08 12:17, in article , "stuart
noble" wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 03:26:58 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:

I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.


IOW Mike does obscene well.



Talking of in-your-face decadence.....

http://i31.tinypic.com/2cmnlaw.jpg


If only it were a Clematis! ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



may 09-05-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judith in France (Post 790268)
I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.

Judith

this one has never let me down yet , this was last year when it was in flower, but i have loads of buds again this year .
as the other photos show .I think it is HENRI
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...8/P1020770.jpg


http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...8/P1040499.jpg

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...8/P1040498.jpg

stuart noble 09-05-2008 07:05 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
Judith in France wrote:
On May 9, 12:17 pm, stuart noble wrote:
Martin wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 03:26:58 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:
I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.
IOW Mike does obscene well.

Talking of in-your-face decadence.....

http://i31.tinypic.com/2cmnlaw.jpg


What is it Stuart? I like the wall behind too!!

Judith


It belongs to a neighbour but I think it's a paeony. In flower now, a
month later than last year. We call it the poached egg plant

stuart noble 09-05-2008 07:08 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
Sacha wrote:
On 9/5/08 12:17, in article , "stuart
noble" wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2008 03:26:58 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:

I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.
IOW Mike does obscene well.


Talking of in-your-face decadence.....

http://i31.tinypic.com/2cmnlaw.jpg


If only it were a Clematis! ;-))


Yes, that really would be spectacular

Nick Maclaren 09-05-2008 08:11 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 

In article ,
stuart noble writes:
|
| It belongs to a neighbour but I think it's a paeony. In flower now, a
| month later than last year. We call it the poached egg plant

It is.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Judith in France 09-05-2008 09:55 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On May 9, 8:11 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article ,stuart noble writes:

|
| It belongs to a neighbour but I think it's a paeony. In flower now, a
| month later than last year. We call it the poached egg plant

It is.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


It is beautiful, I don't think I have ever seen one before.

Judith (slightly squiffy as I have had at least half a bottle of a
lovely crisp wine with supper at friends!!!)

Paul Luton[_2_] 10-05-2008 09:42 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
Judith in France wrote:
I want a clematis that has the wow factor, noting subtle, small or
delicate, I have many of those as Charlie knows. What I want is in
your face, beautiful to the extreme of being obscene, any ideas,
colour preferred would be white but the single most important factor,
is the brief in the subject line.

Judith


Miss Bateman - white with violet stamens wows me.

http://www.paghat.com/missbateman.html


--
CTC Right to Ride Rep. for Richmond upon Thames

Janet Tweedy 11-05-2008 12:38 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes


I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
"The President", which is an extreme purple.



I once had a lonicera henryi which was the most boring plant i have ever
owned, no fragrance and horrible small brown colour flowers.

Hope it wasn't named after the same plant breeder as the clematis!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Nick Maclaren 11-05-2008 12:44 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 

In article ,
Janet Tweedy writes:
|
| I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
| "The President", which is an extreme purple.
|
| I once had a lonicera henryi which was the most boring plant i have ever
| owned, no fragrance and horrible small brown colour flowers.

I have owned much more boring ones, but I eventually dug mine up and
gave it away.

| Hope it wasn't named after the same plant breeder as the clematis!

It probably was :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Judith in France 11-05-2008 01:14 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On May 11, 12:38 pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes



I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
"The President", which is an extreme purple.


I once had a lonicera henryi which was the most boring plant i have ever
owned, no fragrance and horrible small brown colour flowers.

Hope it wasn't named after the same plant breeder as the clematis!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


I have now decided on 3!! Henryi and Marie bosselot as mentioned to
me by Charlie and Artic White by Sacha. I will Google on suppliers
round here to see if I can get them otherwise I will order them online
from England.

Thanks to everyone for suggestions.

Judith

Sacha[_3_] 11-05-2008 05:27 PM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On 11/5/08 13:14, in article
, "Judith in
France" wrote:

On May 11, 12:38 pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes



I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
"The President", which is an extreme purple.


I once had a lonicera henryi which was the most boring plant i have ever
owned, no fragrance and horrible small brown colour flowers.

Hope it wasn't named after the same plant breeder as the clematis!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


I have now decided on 3!! Henryi and Marie bosselot as mentioned to
me by Charlie and Artic White by Sacha. I will Google on suppliers
round here to see if I can get them otherwise I will order them online
from England.

Thanks to everyone for suggestions.

Judith


I think Marie Boisselot may be known also as Madame Le Coultre but Charlie
will know for sure.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Charlie Pridham[_2_] 12-05-2008 08:35 AM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
In article ,
says...
On 11/5/08 13:14, in article
, "Judith in
France" wrote:

On May 11, 12:38 pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes



I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
"The President", which is an extreme purple.

I once had a lonicera henryi which was the most boring plant i have ever
owned, no fragrance and horrible small brown colour flowers.

Hope it wasn't named after the same plant breeder as the clematis!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


I have now decided on 3!! Henryi and Marie bosselot as mentioned to
me by Charlie and Artic White by Sacha. I will Google on suppliers
round here to see if I can get them otherwise I will order them online
from England.

Thanks to everyone for suggestions.

Judith


I think Marie Boisselot may be known also as Madame Le Coultre but Charlie
will know for sure.

Tis the same clematis and the same person marie married a Le Coutre!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 12-05-2008 08:37 AM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
In article , says...

In article ,
Janet Tweedy writes:
|
| I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
| "The President", which is an extreme purple.
|
| I once had a lonicera henryi which was the most boring plant i have ever
| owned, no fragrance and horrible small brown colour flowers.

I have owned much more boring ones, but I eventually dug mine up and
gave it away.

| Hope it wasn't named after the same plant breeder as the clematis!

It probably was :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

It was indeed but he did not breed either plant but was a plant
collector, I gather its rather the luck of the draw when one is honoured
by having a plant species named after one, you could end up with
something beautiful or a weed!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Sacha[_3_] 12-05-2008 08:40 AM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On 12/5/08 08:35, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article ,
says...
On 11/5/08 13:14, in article
, "Judith in
France" wrote:

On May 11, 12:38 pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes



I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
"The President", which is an extreme purple.

I once had a lonicera henryi which was the most boring plant i have ever
owned, no fragrance and horrible small brown colour flowers.

Hope it wasn't named after the same plant breeder as the clematis!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

I have now decided on 3!! Henryi and Marie bosselot as mentioned to
me by Charlie and Artic White by Sacha. I will Google on suppliers
round here to see if I can get them otherwise I will order them online
from England.

Thanks to everyone for suggestions.

Judith


I think Marie Boisselot may be known also as Madame Le Coultre but Charlie
will know for sure.

Tis the same clematis and the same person marie married a Le Coutre!


Even as I was typing that I wondered if that had to be the answer. ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Judith in France 12-05-2008 10:45 AM

Wanted a very large, almost decadently beautiful, clematis.
 
On May 12, 8:35 am, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/5/08 13:14, in article
, "Judith in
France" wrote:


On May 11, 12:38 pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes


I had a "henryi", but it died :-( That comes close. As does
"The President", which is an extreme purple.


I once had a lonicera henryi which was the most boring plant i have ever
owned, no fragrance and horrible small brown colour flowers.


Hope it wasn't named after the same plant breeder as the clematis!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


I have now decided on 3!! Henryi and Marie bosselot as mentioned to
me by Charlie and Artic White by Sacha. I will Google on suppliers
round here to see if I can get them otherwise I will order them online
from England.


Thanks to everyone for suggestions.


Judith


I think Marie Boisselot may be known also as Madame Le Coultre but Charlie
will know for sure.


Tis the same clematis and the same person marie married a Le Coutre!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


Sounds all very French Charlie but I am not having any luck locally!!

Judith


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