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Sacha[_3_] 10-05-2008 02:25 PM

Organic slug pellets
 
I think someone was asking recently about organic methods of deterring
slugs. Although we sell these, we haven't tried them so I can't vouch for
them personally. However, the details a

Growing Success Advanced Slug Pellets (Ferramol®) 750g

a. based on Iron (III) phosphate (also known as Ferric phosphate).
b. does NOT contain methiocarb or metaldehyde.
c. Fully biodegradable.
d. Rain resistant.
e. Children, pets and wildlife need not be excluded from treated
areas (but store the product in its original container in a safe place out
of the reach of children and animals. Follow the directions for use
carefully).

Shop around a bit because prices vary.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 10-05-2008 02:55 PM

Organic slug pellets
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
I think someone was asking recently about organic methods of deterring
slugs. Although we sell these, we haven't tried them so I can't vouch for
them personally. However, the details a




Or follow the trial I have going in the 'Anti Slug and Snail Experiment'

Mike




Father Haskell 10-05-2008 06:13 PM

Organic slug pellets
 
On May 10, 9:55 am, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message

...

I think someone was asking recently about organic methods of deterring
slugs. Although we sell these, we haven't tried them so I can't vouch for
them personally.


Iron phosphate (i.e. "Sluggo" brand) works great, and adds a shot
of phosphorous, which your plants need anyway.

However, the details a

Or follow the trial I have going in the 'Anti Slug and Snail Experiment'

Mike


Does the wire stapled to the top of the rails do anything
about the slugs nesting underneath?


'Mike' 10-05-2008 06:17 PM

Organic slug pellets
 


"Father Haskell" wrote in message
...

Or follow the trial I have going in the 'Anti Slug and Snail Experiment'

Mike


Does the wire stapled to the top of the rails do anything
about the slugs nesting underneath?
her.


Well if they don't want to go over, we hope that they won't want to go under
either. BUT, early days of the experiment.

WATCH THIS SPACE.

If it works :-))

If it doesn't work? Well at least I have, as always, been honest :-))

Mike



Bill[_13_] 10-05-2008 06:39 PM

Organic slug pellets
 
In article
,
Father Haskell wrote:

On May 10, 9:55 am, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message

...

I think someone was asking recently about organic methods of deterring
slugs. Although we sell these, we haven't tried them so I can't vouch for
them personally.


Iron phosphate (i.e. "Sluggo" brand) works great, and adds a shot
of phosphorous, which your plants need anyway.

However, the details a

Or follow the trial I have going in the 'Anti Slug and Snail Experiment'

Mike


Does the wire stapled to the top of the rails do anything
about the slugs nesting underneath?


Every year I ask where can I purchase an ounce of iron phosphate ?
Sluggo and others consist of 1% iron phosphate and 99 % breads or a
starch.

Active ingredient 1% for expensive box .

Bill who would dissolve iron phosphate in soda.

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Val 10-05-2008 07:42 PM

Organic slug pellets
 

"Bill" wrote in message
...

Every year I ask where can I purchase an ounce of iron phosphate ?
Sluggo and others consist of 1% iron phosphate and 99 % breads or a
starch.

Active ingredient 1% for expensive box .

Bill who would dissolve iron phosphate in soda.


Interesting that you mention this. Just recently on a local TV gardening
program I was watching a caller asked the same question of our 'organic
guru'. He explained that the other '90%' inert ingredient served two
purposes. 1. to facilitate proper and easy distribution. 2. to serve as an
attractant. Apparently just spraying or flinging iron phosphate around won't
do much, it rapidly dissipates, assimilates, can't remember the exact term
used, into the soil and is quickly rendered ineffective. If you just pile it
the slugs won't be drawn to it and eat it.

If you really want to do DIY Sluggo I'd look up a copy of the MSDS sheet,
get the exact chemical name and google 'chemical suppliers'. I just did that
and one of the first hits of 'affordable, free shipping' supplier's smallest
amount available was $689.00. You may wish to search further. I can buy a
whole lot of Sluggo for 600 bucks.

Val



Bill[_13_] 10-05-2008 08:14 PM

Organic slug pellets
 
In article ,
"Val" wrote:


If you really want to do DIY Sluggo I'd look up a copy of the MSDS sheet,
get the exact chemical name and google 'chemical suppliers'. I just did that
and one of the first hits of 'affordable, free shipping' supplier's smallest
amount available was $689.00. You may wish to search further. I can buy a
whole lot of Sluggo for 600 bucks.

Val


Just drives me batty that a cheap chemical has such a premium. I've
been to drug stores and chemical providers to no avail. I've helped
create MSDS docs in the past dealing with Titanium Dioxide.
You may be able to purchase a lot of sluggo for $600 but each year I'd
guess $30 or more hence my quest as one ounce would be a lifetime
supply.

I'll ask again next year ;))

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Billy[_4_] 10-05-2008 08:32 PM

Organic slug pellets
 
In article ,
"Val" wrote:

"Bill" wrote in message
...

Every year I ask where can I purchase an ounce of iron phosphate ?
Sluggo and others consist of 1% iron phosphate and 99 % breads or a
starch.

Active ingredient 1% for expensive box .

Bill who would dissolve iron phosphate in soda.


Interesting that you mention this. Just recently on a local TV gardening
program I was watching a caller asked the same question of our 'organic
guru'. He explained that the other '90%' inert ingredient served two
purposes. 1. to facilitate proper and easy distribution. 2. to serve as an
attractant. Apparently just spraying or flinging iron phosphate around won't
do much, it rapidly dissipates, assimilates, can't remember the exact term
used, into the soil and is quickly rendered ineffective. If you just pile it
the slugs won't be drawn to it and eat it.

If you really want to do DIY Sluggo I'd look up a copy of the MSDS sheet,
get the exact chemical name and google 'chemical suppliers'. I just did that
and one of the first hits of 'affordable, free shipping' supplier's smallest
amount available was $689.00. You may wish to search further. I can buy a
whole lot of Sluggo for 600 bucks.

Val


That is what Bill was talking about Val. Buying the ferric phosphate
(Fe+++ PO4---) to add to bread, or mushed banana, or whatever. If your
going to buy the commercial product, Home Despot has a ferric phosphate
bait for about half the price of Sluggo. The idea, though, was to cut
out the middleman:-)
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

Steve[_25_] 10-05-2008 08:42 PM

Organic slug pellets
 
I tried these last year and I found them
totally harmless to pets, children and slugs.
Steve.

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
I think someone was asking recently about organic methods of deterring
slugs. Although we sell these, we haven't tried them so I can't vouch for
them personally. However, the details a

Growing Success Advanced Slug Pellets (Ferramol®) 750g

snip....



Father Haskell 10-05-2008 08:44 PM

Organic slug pellets
 
On May 10, 1:39 pm, Bill wrote:
In article
,
Father Haskell wrote:



On May 10, 9:55 am, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message


.. .


I think someone was asking recently about organic methods of deterring
slugs. Although we sell these, we haven't tried them so I can't vouch for
them personally.


Iron phosphate (i.e. "Sluggo" brand) works great, and adds a shot
of phosphorous, which your plants need anyway.


However, the details a


Or follow the trial I have going in the 'Anti Slug and Snail Experiment'


Mike


Does the wire stapled to the top of the rails do anything
about the slugs nesting underneath?


Every year I ask where can I purchase an ounce of iron phosphate ?
Sluggo and others consist of 1% iron phosphate and 99 % breads or a
starch.

Active ingredient 1% for expensive box .


That expensive box usually lasts me 2 years.

Bill who would dissolve iron phosphate in soda.


Not sure, but iron phosphate _might_ be sold as a
dietary supplement. Check around -- the cheapest
brand might do the trick for you.

Bill[_13_] 10-05-2008 09:15 PM

Organic slug pellets
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
"Val" wrote:

"Bill" wrote in message
...

Every year I ask where can I purchase an ounce of iron phosphate ?
Sluggo and others consist of 1% iron phosphate and 99 % breads or a
starch.

Active ingredient 1% for expensive box .

Bill who would dissolve iron phosphate in soda.


Interesting that you mention this. Just recently on a local TV gardening
program I was watching a caller asked the same question of our 'organic
guru'. He explained that the other '90%' inert ingredient served two
purposes. 1. to facilitate proper and easy distribution. 2. to serve as an
attractant. Apparently just spraying or flinging iron phosphate around
won't
do much, it rapidly dissipates, assimilates, can't remember the exact term
used, into the soil and is quickly rendered ineffective. If you just pile
it
the slugs won't be drawn to it and eat it.

If you really want to do DIY Sluggo I'd look up a copy of the MSDS sheet,
get the exact chemical name and google 'chemical suppliers'. I just did
that
and one of the first hits of 'affordable, free shipping' supplier's
smallest
amount available was $689.00. You may wish to search further. I can buy a
whole lot of Sluggo for 600 bucks.

Val


That is what Bill was talking about Val. Buying the ferric phosphate
(Fe+++ PO4---) to add to bread, or mushed banana, or whatever. If your
going to buy the commercial product, Home Despot has a ferric phosphate
bait for about half the price of Sluggo. The idea, though, was to cut
out the middleman:-)


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Michael Nyman
The Piano Soundtracks 1 4/10/08 6:57 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Nyman

http://www.michaelnyman.com/biography.php




My other is getting a high tech knee replacement in two days and the
jest of it is I will be busy. Mean while music is great to garden too
and heal by.

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Steve Harris 11-05-2008 11:17 AM

Organic slug pellets
 
In article , (Steve) wrote:

I tried these last year and I found them
totally harmless to pets, children and slugs.


What dose did you use on the children? :-)

I've only tried Growing Success Advanced Slug Pellets on slugs and snails and they seemed
reasonably effective. It's difficult to tell because metaldehyde messes up the slime system
quickly which gives you plenty of evidence. Ferric phosphate is claimed to stop them feeding and
kills them later in a less spectacular manner.

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at
http://www.netservs.com/garden/

Duncan 11-05-2008 10:55 PM

Organic slug pellets
 

"Martin" wrote in message
...


Heineken makes them die laughing.
--

Martin


Or Refreshed.

Duncan



Adam 12-05-2008 08:26 AM

Organic slug pellets
 


Sacha wrote:
I think someone was asking recently about organic methods of deterring
slugs. Although we sell these, we haven't tried them so I can't vouch for
them personally. However, the details a

Growing Success Advanced Slug Pellets (Ferramol®) 750g

a. based on Iron (III) phosphate (also known as Ferric phosphate).
b. does NOT contain methiocarb or metaldehyde.
c. Fully biodegradable.
d. Rain resistant.
e. Children, pets and wildlife need not be excluded from treated
areas (but store the product in its original container in a safe place out
of the reach of children and animals. Follow the directions for use
carefully).

Shop around a bit because prices vary.


FWIW, I've been using these pellets and found them to be quite
effective. Probably not as good as metaldehyde, but certainly a lot
better than any other organic method I've ever tried.

Adam

Jeff Layman 12-05-2008 09:39 AM

Organic slug pellets
 
Adam wrote:
Sacha wrote:
I think someone was asking recently about organic methods of
deterring slugs. Although we sell these, we haven't tried them so I
can't vouch for them personally. However, the details a

Growing Success Advanced Slug Pellets (Ferramol®) 750g

a. based on Iron (III) phosphate (also known as Ferric
phosphate). b. does NOT contain methiocarb or metaldehyde.
c. Fully biodegradable.
d. Rain resistant.
e. Children, pets and wildlife need not be excluded from
treated areas (but store the product in its original container in a
safe place out of the reach of children and animals. Follow the
directions for use carefully).

Shop around a bit because prices vary.


FWIW, I've been using these pellets and found them to be quite
effective. Probably not as good as metaldehyde, but certainly a lot
better than any other organic method I've ever tried.

Adam


Considering that metaldehyde is not much of a slug killer in the usual
British climate, that's a bit of a back-handed compliment!

--
Jeff
(cut "thetape" to reply)




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