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Judith in France 15-05-2008 07:27 PM

Identification please - if possible
 
We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time. I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg

Judith

Mary Fisher 15-05-2008 08:05 PM

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"Judith in France" wrote in message
...
We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time.


Vandal!!!

:-)

I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg

No idea ... sorry :-(

Mary



Pete C[_2_] 15-05-2008 08:14 PM

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Judith in France wrote:
We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time. I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg

Judith


You'd be no good at collecting conkers then!
--
Pete C
London UK



Jeff Layman 15-05-2008 08:14 PM

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Judith in France wrote:
We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time. I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg

Judith


Paulownia tomentosa?

--
Jeff
(cut "thetape" to reply)



Judith in France 15-05-2008 08:15 PM

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On May 15, 8:05 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Judith in France" wrote in ...

We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time.


Vandal!!!

:-)

I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg


No idea ... sorry :-(

Mary


My husband walked off when I was throwing pebbles, pretending he
wasn't with me!!!! I told him he was lucky I didn't go back home for
a stepladder! (There is always tomorrow though!).

Judith


Judith in France 15-05-2008 08:16 PM

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On May 15, 8:14 pm, "Pete C" wrote:
Judith in France wrote:
We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time. I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg


Judith


You'd be no good at collecting conkers then!
--
Pete C
London UK


I am very good with conkers - I wait until they fall off the tree!!

Judith

Judith in France 15-05-2008 08:17 PM

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On May 15, 8:14 pm, "Jeff Layman" wrote:
Judith in France wrote:
We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time. I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg


Judith


Paulownia tomentosa?

--
Jeff
(cut "thetape" to reply)


I have no idea but I shall Google it - thank you Jeff.

Judith

Sacha[_3_] 15-05-2008 10:13 PM

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On 15/5/08 19:27, in article
, "Judith in
France" wrote:

We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time. I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg

Judith


Paulownia tomentosa, Judith - I'm pretty sure. It's aka the foxglove tree.
It sets buds in winter. I sent some seeds to a previous urgler in Normandy
and she grew so many that she swapped them for a load of plants with her
local nursery.
Was it without leaves at the moment because Paulownias flower on bare
stems/trunks?
Someone told Ray that they're grown as street trees in Moscow but mainly for
the leaves because, if they're stooled, they produce enormous and attractive
leaves in climates where they wouldn't produce flowers. I *think* I'm
correct in saying that in some parts of USA they're grown as a crop for
their wood.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Judith in France 15-05-2008 10:28 PM

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On May 15, 10:13 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 15/5/08 19:27, in article
, "Judith in

France" wrote:
We went out to supper last night and parked in a town square. There
was a tree, about the size of a mature Acacia with the most beautiful
pale lavender coloured flowers, the smell was exotic. I could see
some seeds on the tree which looked like nuts, I couldn't reach the
lower branches to pick one to try and grow it on so I threw some
pebbles but missed every time. I brought a flower home that has
fallen on the ground and Edward took a pic, can anyone identify it.
It is on on my hand so that you can get an idea of scale. I will post
this in another group also.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hpgcn.jpg


Judith


Paulownia tomentosa, Judith - I'm pretty sure. It's aka the foxglove tree.
It sets buds in winter. I sent some seeds to a previous urgler in Normandy
and she grew so many that she swapped them for a load of plants with her
local nursery.
Was it without leaves at the moment because Paulownias flower on bare
stems/trunks?
Someone told Ray that they're grown as street trees in Moscow but mainly for
the leaves because, if they're stooled, they produce enormous and attractive
leaves in climates where they wouldn't produce flowers. I *think* I'm
correct in saying that in some parts of USA they're grown as a crop for
their wood.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?

Judith

Janet Tweedy 16-05-2008 12:24 AM

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In article
,
Judith in France writes


I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?

Judith



They germinate really easily Judith, i gave away about 15 last year and
the year before as they grow quite quickly.
You should be able to get the seeds from quite a few sources
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Sacha[_3_] 16-05-2008 08:55 AM

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On 15/5/08 22:28, in article
, "Judith
in France" wrote:

On May 15, 10:13 pm, Sacha wrote:

snip

Paulownia tomentosa, Judith - I'm pretty sure.

snip

I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?

Judith


I'll send you some when ours 'does its thing'. You'll have to email me your
address because in my usual inefficient fashion, I've lost it or 'put it in
a safe place', as I prefer to think of it.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Judith in France 16-05-2008 11:02 AM

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On May 16, 8:55 am, Sacha wrote:
On 15/5/08 22:28, in article
, "Judith



in France" wrote:
On May 15, 10:13 pm, Sacha wrote:

snip

Paulownia tomentosa, Judith - I'm pretty sure.

snip

I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?


Judith


I'll send you some when ours 'does its thing'. You'll have to email me your
address because in my usual inefficient fashion, I've lost it or 'put it in
a safe place', as I prefer to think of it.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Thank you Sacha, you and your filing system!!!

Judith

Sacha[_3_] 16-05-2008 11:28 AM

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On 16/5/08 11:02, in article
, "Judith in
France" wrote:

On May 16, 8:55 am, Sacha wrote:
On 15/5/08 22:28, in article
, "Judith



in France" wrote:
On May 15, 10:13 pm, Sacha wrote:

snip

Paulownia tomentosa, Judith - I'm pretty sure.

snip

I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?


Judith


I'll send you some when ours 'does its thing'. You'll have to email me your
address because in my usual inefficient fashion, I've lost it or 'put it in
a safe place', as I prefer to think of it.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Thank you Sacha, you and your filing system!!!

Judith


I know - it's hopeless. I had it on my computer but I don't think I
transferred it when I bought this new one! I promise that this time it will
go into the physical address book, as well as the computer one.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



echinosum 16-05-2008 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judith in France (Post 791999)
Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some seeds?

Plants and seeds are widely available, you shouldn't have a problem. Not so rare. But be aware that they are fast-growing, wide-spreading trees, so need a lot of room. They also create a lot of shade. And the flowers are held high up, so it is best to plant it somewhere where you will have a good view of it from a location higher than where it is planted. I used to have one outside my 1st-storey window when I was a student in Oxford.

Sacha[_3_] 16-05-2008 01:20 PM

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On 16/5/08 12:45, in article ,
"echinosum" wrote:


Judith in France;791999 Wrote:
Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some seeds?

Plants and seeds are widely available, you shouldn't have a problem.
Not so rare. But be aware that they are fast-growing, wide-spreading
trees, so need a lot of room. They also create a lot of shade. And the
flowers are held high up, so it is best to plant it somewhere where you
will have a good view of it from a location higher than where it is
planted. I used to have one outside my 1st-storey window when I was a
student in Oxford.


To this I would just add that if you keep it stooled, it produces enormous
and eye catching leaves but doesn't flower.
I'm interested that you call it wide-spreading. Ours is about 9 years old
and is probably about 15' but it's not particularly spreading.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Judith in France 16-05-2008 02:53 PM

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On May 16, 12:45 pm, echinosum
wrote:
Judith in France;791999 Wrote: Now, of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some seeds?

Plants and seeds are widely available, you shouldn't have a problem.
Not so rare. But be aware that they are fast-growing, wide-spreading
trees, so need a lot of room. They also create a lot of shade. And the
flowers are held high up, so it is best to plant it somewhere where you
will have a good view of it from a location higher than where it is
planted. I used to have one outside my 1st-storey window when I was a
student in Oxford.

--
echinosum


I have just the place for it. I am having an Acacia taken downas
there are three in that part of the garden ad I will plant the new
tree in its place.

Judith

Sacha[_3_] 16-05-2008 05:04 PM

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On 16/5/08 13:20, in article ,
"Sacha" wrote:

On 16/5/08 12:45, in article ,
"echinosum" wrote:


Judith in France;791999 Wrote:
Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some seeds?

Plants and seeds are widely available, you shouldn't have a problem.
Not so rare. But be aware that they are fast-growing, wide-spreading
trees, so need a lot of room. They also create a lot of shade. And the
flowers are held high up, so it is best to plant it somewhere where you
will have a good view of it from a location higher than where it is
planted. I used to have one outside my 1st-storey window when I was a
student in Oxford.


To this I would just add that if you keep it stooled, it produces enormous
and eye catching leaves but doesn't flower.
I'm interested that you call it wide-spreading. Ours is about 9 years old
and is probably about 15' but it's not particularly spreading.


And Ray has told me that he doesn't think it's P.tomentosa but it *might* be
P. taiwaniana. Sadly, he thinks it's died - there is no sign of a flower, a
bud or a leaf! However, we do have P.tomentosa in the car park borders, so
must hope that's going to set seed. It is rather more spreading than the
other (probably improperly named) one but not to any troublesome degree.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Judith in France 16-05-2008 09:48 PM

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On May 16, 12:24 am, Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article
,
Judith in France writes



I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?


Judith


They germinate really easily Judith, i gave away about 15 last year and
the year before as they grow quite quickly.
You should be able to get the seeds from quite a few sources
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraphhttp://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


I miss your plants Janet, I had to leave them behind in England -
hint!!!!

Judith

Judith in France 16-05-2008 09:49 PM

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On May 16, 11:28 am, Sacha wrote:
On 16/5/08 11:02, in article
, "Judith in



France" wrote:
On May 16, 8:55 am, Sacha wrote:
On 15/5/08 22:28, in article
, "Judith


in France" wrote:
On May 15, 10:13 pm, Sacha wrote:
snip


Paulownia tomentosa, Judith - I'm pretty sure.
snip


I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?


Judith


I'll send you some when ours 'does its thing'. You'll have to email me your
address because in my usual inefficient fashion, I've lost it or 'put it in
a safe place', as I prefer to think of it.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Thank you Sacha, you and your filing system!!!


Judith


I know - it's hopeless. I had it on my computer but I don't think I
transferred it when I bought this new one! I promise that this time it will
go into the physical address book, as well as the computer one.

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Do I hear an echo? Did I hear that last year :-)

Judith

Judith in France 16-05-2008 09:49 PM

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On May 16, 12:45 pm, echinosum
wrote:
Judith in France;791999 Wrote: Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some seeds?

Plants and seeds are widely available, you shouldn't have a problem.
Not so rare. But be aware that they are fast-growing, wide-spreading
trees, so need a lot of room. They also create a lot of shade. And the
flowers are held high up, so it is best to plant it somewhere where you
will have a good view of it from a location higher than where it is
planted. I used to have one outside my 1st-storey window when I was a
student in Oxford.

--
echinosum


I have just the spot for it - which college in Oxford?

Judith

Sacha[_3_] 17-05-2008 12:04 AM

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On 16/5/08 21:49, in article
, "Judith
in France" wrote:

On May 16, 11:28 am, Sacha wrote:
On 16/5/08 11:02, in article
, "Judith in



France" wrote:
On May 16, 8:55 am, Sacha wrote:
On 15/5/08 22:28, in article
, "Judith


in France" wrote:
On May 15, 10:13 pm, Sacha wrote:
snip


Paulownia tomentosa, Judith - I'm pretty sure.
snip


I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?


Judith


I'll send you some when ours 'does its thing'. You'll have to email me
your
address because in my usual inefficient fashion, I've lost it or 'put it in
a safe place', as I prefer to think of it.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Thank you Sacha, you and your filing system!!!


Judith


I know - it's hopeless. I had it on my computer but I don't think I
transferred it when I bought this new one! I promise that this time it will
go into the physical address book, as well as the computer one.

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Do I hear an echo? Did I hear that last year :-)

Judith


Evil and unworthy person! No you did not1 I think.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Judith in France 17-05-2008 10:51 AM

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On May 17, 12:04 am, Sacha wrote:
On 16/5/08 21:49, in article
, "Judith



in France" wrote:
On May 16, 11:28 am, Sacha wrote:
On 16/5/08 11:02, in article
, "Judith in


France" wrote:
On May 16, 8:55 am, Sacha wrote:
On 15/5/08 22:28, in article
, "Judith


in France" wrote:
On May 15, 10:13 pm, Sacha wrote:
snip


Paulownia tomentosa, Judith - I'm pretty sure.
snip


I've Googled it - yes, that is exactly what it is, thank you and
Jeff. Now, short of taking a stepladder there, how can I get some
seeds?


Judith


I'll send you some when ours 'does its thing'. You'll have to email me
your
address because in my usual inefficient fashion, I've lost it or 'put it in
a safe place', as I prefer to think of it.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Thank you Sacha, you and your filing system!!!


Judith


I know - it's hopeless. I had it on my computer but I don't think I
transferred it when I bought this new one! I promise that this time it will
go into the physical address book, as well as the computer one.


--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Do I hear an echo? Did I hear that last year :-)


Judith


Evil and unworthy person! No you did not1 I think.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


ROFL - I have all emails archived but I would have to trawl through
thousands to find it, it's best that I send it to you again :-)

Judith p.s. what eats parsel in the garden, mine is getting nibbled?

Judith in France 17-05-2008 10:56 AM

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On May 17, 8:36 am, Chris Hogg wrote:
Arnold-Forster ('Shrubs for the Milder Counties', Country Life, 1948)
warns of a potential problem with Paulownia in that it sets its flower
buds in the autumn, so they are liable to damage by frost etc. through
the winter before flowering in May. He also says that it's tender when
young, and he is rather sceptical about it's ability to thrive in the
UK climate other than on the south coast, saying it is apt to be gaunt
in habit, and that it prefers hotter summers than ours. But he was
writing 60 years ago when the climate was colder, and if you've seen
one in France near you that is flourishing, go for it.

IME, it germinates embarrassingly easily from fresh seed. If you
rummage around on the ground underneath that tree you will find seed
capsules that may still contain seeds from last year, or perhaps
collect them from the lower branches.

--

Chris

Gardening in West Cornwall overlooking the sea.
Mild, but very exposed to salt gales

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net


Hi Chris, thanks for that. I couldn't reach even the lower branches,
that why I threw stones up to try and knock off the seeds. I'm
surprised it thrives here as the Winter is vicious. It is growing in
a small square in Auzon, which is about 50 kilometres South of
Clermont Ferrand, so we are fairly well set for good weather but
because of the altitude, we are in the Massif Central, we get snow and
lots of it. If we go skiing with friends or family (I no longer ski)
we got to Super Besse which is not that far from our home, take a look
at the weather there!!!

I will drive down to Auzon in a few days and scrabble on the ground
and see what I can find - thanks.

Judith

Janet Tweedy 20-05-2008 01:41 AM

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In article
,
Judith in France writes

I miss your plants Janet, I had to leave them behind in England -
hint!!!!

Judith



Bit behind this year Judith what with one thing and another but will try
to get you some later if I have your address. Not sure about sending
stuff abroad?

Janet

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


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