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Tonz 20-05-2008 01:55 AM

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When is a good time to take cuttings ? or does it depend on the type of
plant
Many thanks


Rusty Hinge 2 20-05-2008 08:14 AM

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When is a good time to take cuttings ? or does it depend on the type of
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Definitely depends.

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mogga 20-05-2008 08:47 AM

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On Tue, 20 May 2008 01:55:59 +0100, "Tonz"
wrote:

When is a good time to take cuttings ? or does it depend on the type of
plant
Many thanks


I reckon it's always a good time to try. It does depend on lots of
things - but if the plant has plenty of trimmings to give you can go
for it several times.
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Nick Maclaren 20-05-2008 09:51 AM

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In article ,
Rusty Hinge 2 writes:
| The message
| from "Tonz" contains these words:
|
| When is a good time to take cuttings ? or does it depend on the
| type of plant
|
| Definitely depends.

Indeed. As does whether it is worth doing! As I post fairly often,
I am not good with cuttings, and am a strong believer in layering
as a much better method for the amateur. It isn't always possible
but, when it is, it almost always beats taking cuttings hands down.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

echinosum 20-05-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonz (Post 793114)
When is a good time to take cuttings ? or does it depend on the type of plant Many thanks

Depends on the type of plant, and the type of cutting. June is probably the most common time. RHS Encyclopaedia of Gardening is one of many books with a good chapter on propagation.

Rusty Hinge 2 23-05-2008 10:04 PM

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So, bearing in mind that you snip from the new growth, when would the
pundits suggest I take cuttings from a worcesterberry?

Mine have reached over ten feet now, and I think it's time for some
serious laying waste - I have to have the light on in the kitchen, even
at High Noon innit.

(Been in three years this coming autumn, and only the first crop of
berries...)

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Janet Tweedy 25-05-2008 10:47 AM

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In article , Nick Maclaren
writes

Indeed. As does whether it is worth doing! As I post fairly often,
I am not good with cuttings, and am a strong believer in layering
as a much better method for the amateur. It isn't always possible
but, when it is, it almost always beats taking cuttings hands down.


I spend my life taking cuttings :) Will have a go at anything and you'd
be surprised what will take 'out of season'.
I shove everything in quite tightly into a box (e.g. wooden wine case
sized) or my heated sand bench and just wait. I find that stuff roots
better for me if it has other roots around it. So i just put in a few
together and label them, some don't take but you haven't lost anything
have you?

Some things are better split such as herbaceous stuff where you ca get a
bit of the plant through the main root, with fine roots still attached.
Bedding plants and things with soft stems are better struck by doing
them as green cuttings, just pinched above a leaf joint and shoved into
grit or sand, even a potting medium if they are very easily rooted
(e.g.. Fuchsias, geraniums, petunias)

If pruning roses I'll take 8icnh stems and make a slanted cut away from
a bud at the top and plunge it into a gritty mix in a trench in the
garden or I'll put it into the sand box. Hardy or ripe cuttings don't
seem to need as much heat.

I would say try as you really haven't got anything to lose unless you
are trying to bulk up a special plant.

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Judith in France 25-05-2008 11:22 AM

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On May 25, 10:47 am, Janet Tweedy wrote:

I spend my life taking cuttings :) Will have a go at anything and you'd
be surprised what will take 'out of season'.


snip

I would say you are The Queen of Cuttings Janet. When I received your
boxes I was like a child at Christmas going through them, everything
took, nothing failed, thank you.

Judith

Janet Tweedy 25-05-2008 11:54 AM

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In article
,
Judith in France writes
On May 25, 10:47 am, Janet Tweedy wrote:

I spend my life taking cuttings :) Will have a go at anything and you'd
be surprised what will take 'out of season'.


snip

I would say you are The Queen of Cuttings Janet. When I received your
boxes I was like a child at Christmas going through them, everything
took, nothing failed, thank you.

Judith



I think that's because they are used to not being handled too gently
Judith :)
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Janet Tweedy 25-05-2008 11:59 AM

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In article , Rusty Hinge
2 writes
So, bearing in mind that you snip from the new growth, when would the
pundits suggest I take cuttings from a worcesterberry?

Mine have reached over ten feet now, and I think it's time for some
serious laying waste - I have to have the light on in the kitchen, even
at High Noon innit.

(Been in three years this coming autumn, and only the first crop of
berries...)



Not sure of worcesterberry, if it's like a black berry simply bury the
tips and it will root. If it's like a raspberry it will make runners so
you can dig them up but if it's like a blackcurrant just hack back about
8 inches from the tip of the newest growth, take off the top inch or so
cutting just above a bud, then at the bade, cut just below a bud and
shove the cutting into a small trench filled with a bit of sand or grit
mix and bury it to about 3 inches or so.
Make sure it's not in the direct sun and doesn't dry out and if you take
a few at least a couple will have rooted by next year.
Failing that put the cuttings in the greenhouse or cold frame in a deep
pot, again push them in to about 3 or 4 inches in gritty compost or
sharp sand.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
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Rusty Hinge 26-05-2008 07:18 PM

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from Janet Tweedy contains these words:
In article , Rusty Hinge
2 writes


So, bearing in mind that you snip from the new growth, when would the
pundits suggest I take cuttings from a worcesterberry?

Mine have reached over ten feet now, and I think it's time for some
serious laying waste - I have to have the light on in the kitchen, even
at High Noon innit.

(Been in three years this coming autumn, and only the first crop of
berries...)



Not sure of worcesterberry, if it's like a black berry simply bury the
tips and it will root. If it's like a raspberry it will make runners so
you can dig them up but if it's like a blackcurrant just hack back about
8 inches from the tip of the newest growth, take off the top inch or so
cutting just above a bud, then at the bade, cut just below a bud and
shove the cutting into a small trench filled with a bit of sand or grit
mix and bury it to about 3 inches or so.
Make sure it's not in the direct sun and doesn't dry out and if you take
a few at least a couple will have rooted by next year.
Failing that put the cuttings in the greenhouse or cold frame in a deep
pot, again push them in to about 3 or 4 inches in gritty compost or
sharp sand.


It's like - like - like a cross between a gooseberry and a blackcurrant,
allegedly. The unripe fruit on it just now certainly have that look,
though the berries are a bit small FTTB.

I may take some cuttings before the fruit ripens, even if just to let a
little light into the kitchen...

They were planted there before I began destroying the Lonicera
wossisname hedge to replace it with fruit, and not having the
wherewithal to purchase most of the fruit (thank you for that, DWP) the
original (autumn) cuttings have been given free licence. They are now
eyeing the contents of the spare bedroom.

--
Rusty
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(Alice Thomas Ellis)

Nick Maclaren 26-05-2008 10:07 PM

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In article ,
Rusty Hinge writes:
|
| It's like - like - like a cross between a gooseberry and a blackcurrant,
| allegedly. The unripe fruit on it just now certainly have that look,
| though the berries are a bit small FTTB.
|
| I may take some cuttings before the fruit ripens, even if just to let a
| little light into the kitchen...

Jostaberry (seriously).

| They were planted there before I began destroying the Lonicera
| wossisname hedge to replace it with fruit, and not having the
| wherewithal to purchase most of the fruit (thank you for that, DWP) the
| original (autumn) cuttings have been given free licence. They are now
| eyeing the contents of the spare bedroom.

I was given some, but have kept them more closely pruned. Mine are
shy fruiters and are not long for this world ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Rusty Hinge 2 28-05-2008 09:24 AM

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The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
In article ,
Rusty Hinge writes:
|
| It's like - like - like a cross between a gooseberry and a blackcurrant,
| allegedly. The unripe fruit on it just now certainly have that look,
| though the berries are a bit small FTTB.
|
| I may take some cuttings before the fruit ripens, even if just to let a
| little light into the kitchen...


Jostaberry (seriously).


Yes - I knew they were similar, but I wasn't aware that they were one
and the same.

| They were planted there before I began destroying the Lonicera
| wossisname hedge to replace it with fruit, and not having the
| wherewithal to purchase most of the fruit (thank you for that, DWP) the
| original (autumn) cuttings have been given free licence. They are now
| eyeing the contents of the spare bedroom.


I was given some, but have kept them more closely pruned. Mine are
shy fruiters and are not long for this world ....


I think they need to get to some height/length of branch before they
will consider it.

Next month I'll put-up some pics of my Worcester towers. Josta for the
hellovit.

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Now, who said that? (First)

Nick Maclaren 28-05-2008 07:36 PM

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In article ,
Rusty Hinge 2 writes:
|
| | It's like - like - like a cross between a gooseberry and a blackcurrant,
| | allegedly. The unripe fruit on it just now certainly have that look,
| | though the berries are a bit small FTTB.
| |
| | I may take some cuttings before the fruit ripens, even if just to let a
| | little light into the kitchen...
|
| Jostaberry (seriously).
|
| Yes - I knew they were similar, but I wasn't aware that they were one
| and the same.

There is claimed to be some difference, but I get the impression it
is more marketing than science.

| I was given some, but have kept them more closely pruned. Mine are
| shy fruiters and are not long for this world ....
|
| I think they need to get to some height/length of branch before they
| will consider it.

Ah. All fruit bushes over a mile high will leave the garden! Off
with their heads!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



Nick Maclaren 29-05-2008 02:36 PM

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In article ,
jane writes:
|
| No, there is a difference. Worcesters are a distinct species where
| Jostas are a cross. This should help:
| http://web.ukonline.co.uk/suttonelms...sterberry.html

I live and learn! The OED explains the source of the confusion:

A small black gooseberry of the North American species Ribes
divaricatum, once believed to be a hybrid of the blackcurrant
and the gooseberry and sold as such by a Worcester nurseryman.

1923 Amateur Gardening 27 Oct. p. ix/3 (Advertisement).
Worcesterberry. Cross between gooseberry and black currant.
Fruiting trees. 3/- each. Richard Smith & Co. ... Worcester.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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