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Astral Voyager 28-06-2008 10:42 PM

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Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?

I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads 'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).

I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree with my
view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.

Do the pellets work or has anyone tried those ultrasonic device?

Any tips much appreciated.

Mel.

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Sacha[_3_] 28-06-2008 10:51 PM

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On 28/6/08 22:42, in article , "Astral
Voyager" wrote:

Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?

I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads 'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).

I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree with my
view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.

Do the pellets work or has anyone tried those ultrasonic device?

Any tips much appreciated.

Mel.


Water is the best deterrent. Either get yourself a water pistol or find a
device that sets off a water jet as a cat walks past it - warn the family!
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to do!)



Ðave 28-06-2008 11:02 PM

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"Astral Voyager" wrote in message
...
Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?

I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads
'Public Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up
their mess (I thought they were supposed to bury it).

I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree with
my view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.


I'm sure if that is your opinion then a lot of people wouldn't mind shooting
you


Astral Voyager 29-06-2008 03:42 AM

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"Ðave" wrote:

I'm sure if that is your opinion then a lot of people wouldn't mind
shooting you


Quite a few have tried and two have succeeded.

Mel.



Pete C[_2_] 29-06-2008 08:12 AM

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Sacha wrote:
On 28/6/08 22:42, in article ,
"Astral Voyager" wrote:

Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?

I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads
'Public Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing
up their mess (I thought they were supposed to bury it).

I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree
with my view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.

Do the pellets work or has anyone tried those ultrasonic device?

Any tips much appreciated.

Mel.


Water is the best deterrent. Either get yourself a water pistol or
find a device that sets off a water jet as a cat walks past it - warn
the family!


http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm
HTH :)
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shazzbat 29-06-2008 09:58 AM

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"Astral Voyager" wrote in message
...


"Ðave" wrote:

I'm sure if that is your opinion then a lot of people wouldn't mind
shooting you


Quite a few have tried and two have succeeded.


Someone here wants to see you....

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...0stuff/Tom.jpg


Steve



Kate Morgan 29-06-2008 10:20 AM

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e:

I'm sure if that is your opinion then a lot of people wouldn't mind
shooting you


Quite a few have tried and two have succeeded.


Someone here wants to see you....

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...0stuff/Tom.jpg


Steve



LOL brilly, I love it :-)

kate

Rusty Hinge 2 29-06-2008 11:06 AM

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from "Astral Voyager" contains these words:

Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?


I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads 'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their
mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).


I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree with my
view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.


Do the pellets work or has anyone tried those ultrasonic device?


Any tips much appreciated.


Sprinkle a little aluminium ammonium sulphate on the affected areas.

It's not expensive, and you can order (say) 500g or so from a good
chemist, or look in the Yellow Pages for a chemical distributor (such as
Hay's), and they will supply it.

It's quite harmless, and its constituents when degraded are beneficial
to plants, or of no detriment to them.

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Judith in France 29-06-2008 12:21 PM

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On Jun 28, 10:42 pm, "Astral Voyager" wrote:
Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?

I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads 'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).

I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree with my
view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.

Do the pellets work or has anyone tried those ultrasonic device?

Any tips much appreciated.

Mel.

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Mel, try moth balls broken up into small pieces and scattered around
the garden, it worked for me.

Judith

beccabunga 29-06-2008 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astral Voyager (Post 800822)
Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?



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Don't have beds with open space in them. Grow plants close together. Don't have lovely soft earth for animals to dig in.

You are not helping yourself if you have lots of open space in your flower beds.

I'll bet your neighbours don't have lovely neat flowersbeds.

®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² 29-06-2008 02:42 PM

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:21:08 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote and included this (or some of
this):

On Jun 28, 10:42 pm, "Astral Voyager" wrote:
Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?

I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads 'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).

I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree with my
view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.

Do the pellets work or has anyone tried those ultrasonic device?

Any tips much appreciated.

Mel.

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Mel, try moth balls broken up into small pieces and scattered around
the garden, it worked for me.


Make some very dilute Jeyes or Armillatox in a watering can and
sprinkle it around everywhere, grass, paths, beds anywhere. It won't
hurt them but they won't go near it.
I had a cat doing his business on my front lawn every night but after
the above remedy it's been clear for 5 weeks now.


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Judith in France 29-06-2008 02:57 PM

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On Jun 29, 2:42 pm, ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:21:08 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote and included this (or some of
this):



On Jun 28, 10:42 pm, "Astral Voyager" wrote:
Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?


I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads 'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).


I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree with my
view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.


Do the pellets work or has anyone tried those ultrasonic device?


Any tips much appreciated.


Mel.


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Mel, try moth balls broken up into small pieces and scattered around
the garden, it worked for me.


Make some very dilute Jeyes or Armillatox in a watering can and
sprinkle it around everywhere, grass, paths, beds anywhere. It won't
hurt them but they won't go near it.
I had a cat doing his business on my front lawn every night but after
the above remedy it's been clear for 5 weeks now.

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I wonder if that would work for chickens? my neighbour has enough to
feed the 5 thousand and for some reason they love rolling around and
making dust baths in my garden!

Judith

Peter James[_2_] 29-06-2008 03:34 PM

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Astral Voyager wrote:

Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?
snipped

Yes. The ultra sonic cat scarers do work. It keeps them out of your
garden, and doesn't hurt them.
If your garden is contained behind a good fence or well grown hedge it
works even better.

Peter


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Alan 29-06-2008 04:06 PM

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In message , Ðave
wrote
"Astral Voyager" wrote in message
...
Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?

I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads
'Public Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up
their mess (I thought they were supposed to bury it).

I would be quite happy to shoot them but feel the law may not agree
with my view that they are vermin and should be eradicated.


I'm sure if that is your opinion then a lot of people wouldn't mind
shooting you


I take it you are a cat owner that doesn't care where his cat shit?
Shooting or poising the vermin is probably the only humane way of
getting a cat from your garden.
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Eddy 29-06-2008 04:07 PM

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®óñ© © ²°±°-°² wrote:
Make some very dilute Jeyes or Armillatox in a watering can and
sprinkle it around everywhere, grass, paths, beds anywhere. It won't
hurt them but they won't go near it.
I had a cat doing his business on my front lawn every night but after
the above remedy it's been clear for 5 weeks now.


VERY VERY dilute though, eh, or Mel will kill or harm everything it
comes into contact with.

Eddy.


Eddy 29-06-2008 04:09 PM

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shazzbat wrote:

Someone here wants to see you....
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...0stuff/Tom.jpg


And may he aim superbly!

Eddy.

Alan 29-06-2008 04:10 PM

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In message , beccabunga
wrote

You are not helping yourself if you have lots of open space in your
flower beds.


This is the same as saying you are responsible for crime because you own
items worth stealing.

If cat owners cannot control their pets then they are not fit to own
them. The owners should provide areas for their own pets to shit or keep
them locked up and under control.

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Eddy 29-06-2008 04:11 PM

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Mel, where people, below, suggest things to spread around, start with
spreading them only along your boundaries. You may succeed in causing
cats to decide not to bother entering your property . . . and they
therefore may not discover your many luxury toilet-beds.

Eddy.


Astral Voyager 29-06-2008 04:23 PM

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"shazzbat" wrote:

Someone here wants to see you....

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...0stuff/Tom.jpg


Brilliant!!! I do appreciate people with a sense of humour.

And thanks to everyone who has offered suggestions. I will work through them
all starting with the cheapest first (tightwad).

The recent development to the rear of my property has resulted in a great
increase in the number of cats around - and they all seem to head for mine.
Maybe Dave sent them?

Mel.


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®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² 29-06-2008 08:51 PM

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:07:02 +0100, Eddy
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some of this):

Žó?Š Š ?°?°-°? wrote:
Make some very dilute Jeyes or Armillatox in a watering can and
sprinkle it around everywhere, grass, paths, beds anywhere. It won't
hurt them but they won't go near it.
I had a cat doing his business on my front lawn every night but after
the above remedy it's been clear for 5 weeks now.


VERY VERY dilute though, eh, or Mel will kill or harm everything it
comes into contact with.


Very dilute works


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Astral Voyager 29-06-2008 10:51 PM

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"Eddy" wrote:

VERY VERY dilute though, eh, or Mel will kill or harm
everything it comes into contact with.


Are you trying to put the idea into my mind to spray the cats with neat
Jeyes fluid?

Dave won't like that....

Mel.

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beccabunga 29-06-2008 10:53 PM

Not at all - although if you leave valuable items in full view with an open window I think you can be said to be lacking in common sense.

What are you doing about all the birds, the foxes, the hedgehogs, the rats and mice, and the squirrels, not to mention the millions of insects inhabiting your patch? None are exactly particular about where they deposit stuff. Perhaps you don't have any of these pests.

Steve Turner[_2_] 29-06-2008 11:46 PM

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Alan wrote:

: In message , beccabunga
: wrote
::
:: You are not helping yourself if you have lots of open space in your
:: flower beds.
:
: This is the same as saying you are responsible for crime because you
: own items worth stealing.
:
: If cat owners cannot control their pets...

Cats control their the owners.


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Astral Voyager 30-06-2008 12:15 AM

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Make some very dilute Jeyes or Armillatox in a watering can and
sprinkle it around everywhere, grass, paths, beds anywhere. It won't
hurt them but they won't go near it.


Just had a thought about all the suggestions about putting stuff down -
Jeyes, mothballs, etc.

Wouldn't these also impact on wildlife such as hedgehogs? I have a few who
use my drive and garden as part of their foraging route. I would assume
their sense of smell is pretty well developed. I wouldn't like to upset them
in an effort to deter the cats.

No Dave. It's not the hedgehogs cr**ing in the garden. While I am no s**t
connoisseur... I can tell the difference.

Mel.

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shazzbat 30-06-2008 12:27 PM

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"Steve Turner" wrote in message
...
Alan wrote:

: In message , beccabunga
: wrote
::
:: You are not helping yourself if you have lots of open space in your
:: flower beds.
:
: This is the same as saying you are responsible for crime because you
: own items worth stealing.
:
: If cat owners cannot control their pets...

Cats control their the owners.


Cats don't have owners. They have attendants.

Steve



Alan 30-06-2008 06:03 PM

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In message , Steve Turner
wrote
Alan wrote:

: In message , beccabunga
: wrote
::
:: You are not helping yourself if you have lots of open space in your
:: flower beds.
:
: This is the same as saying you are responsible for crime because you
: own items worth stealing.
:
: If cat owners cannot control their pets...

Cats control their the owners.


This is the kind of excuse made by irresponsible pet owner to justify
their antisocial behaviour.

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Alan 30-06-2008 06:05 PM

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In message , Steve Turner
wrote
Alan wrote:

: In message , beccabunga
: wrote
::
:: You are not helping yourself if you have lots of open space in your
:: flower beds.
:
: This is the same as saying you are responsible for crime because you
: own items worth stealing.
:
: If cat owners cannot control their pets...

Cats control their the owners.


Then perhaps the cats should instruct their owners to clean up the shit.

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Eddy 01-07-2008 03:56 PM

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Alan is sadly unaware of the noble cat and its ancient lineage.

Eddy.

Eddy 01-07-2008 04:01 PM

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Astral Voyager wrote:
I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads 'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).


Come on, man, you are obsessing about this, surely. What's the problem
with a bit of cat shit in the garden? Or even three or four new little
turds every day?

Eddy.




Astral Voyager 01-07-2008 04:20 PM

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"Eddy" wrote:

Come on, man, you are obsessing about this, surely. What's the problem
with a bit of cat shit in the garden? Or even three or four new little
turds every day?


Ok. You've arrived. When are the other two or three due?

Mel.



Rusty Hinge 2 01-07-2008 10:05 PM

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The message
from Eddy contains these words:

Astral Voyager wrote:
I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads
'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their
mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).


Come on, man, you are obsessing about this, surely. What's the problem
with a bit of cat shit in the garden? Or even three or four new little
turds every day?


Finding them by Braille while weeding.

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Mary Fisher 02-07-2008 04:48 PM

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"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote in message
k...
The message
from Eddy contains these words:

Astral Voyager wrote:
I'm sure somewhere on my property is a sign in cat speak that reads
'Public
Toilet'. A good part of my time gardening is spent clearing up their
mess (I
thought they were supposed to bury it).


Come on, man, you are obsessing about this, surely. What's the problem
with a bit of cat shit in the garden? Or even three or four new little
turds every day?


Finding them by Braille while weeding.


In our garden the cats used to use our chicken's dust bath area. That's a
problem.

We've prevented access by putting chicken wire, loosely, round the places on
the boundary which the cats usd for access. So far it's worked.

Mary



T i m 03-07-2008 08:19 PM

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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:42:07 +0100, "Astral Voyager"
wrote:

Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?


Yep, one of those infra red movement detecting water sprinklers.

We used to get loads of cats crap (ferrule wildlife murdering
unpredictable roadkill fleabags that they are) in our enclosed private
back garden and when I dug it all over recently I installed the
device.

Since then my fresh inviting soil has stayed just that, fresh! ;-)

I bought one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/5gejue

And whilst probably not the most sophisticated of products, seems to
do what it says on the tin (especially for £18.49 delivered).

There seems to be times in the day when the sun is in a particular
place (possibly reflections off something) where it can false trigger
but all that happens is my 3 mini allotment beds get a quick watering
;-)

All the best ..

T i m




Judith in France 03-07-2008 10:20 PM

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On Jul 3, 8:19 pm, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:42:07 +0100, "Astral Voyager"

wrote:
Has anybody found an effective way of deterring cats from the garden?


Yep, one of those infra red movement detecting water sprinklers.

We used to get loads of cats crap (ferrule wildlife murdering
unpredictable roadkill fleabags that they are) in our enclosed private
back garden and when I dug it all over recently I installed the
device.

Since then my fresh inviting soil has stayed just that, fresh! ;-)

I bought one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/5gejue

And whilst probably not the most sophisticated of products, seems to
do what it says on the tin (especially for £18.49 delivered).

There seems to be times in the day when the sun is in a particular
place (possibly reflections off something) where it can false trigger
but all that happens is my 3 mini allotment beds get a quick watering
;-)

All the best ..

T i m


Tim, how big an area does it cover, I'm thinking hens here :-)

Judith

T i m 03-07-2008 10:43 PM

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:20:43 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:


Tim, how big an area does it cover, I'm thinking hens here :-)


Quite a range I would say, maybe as much as the 10m and 90 degrees it
says on the blurb but pretty close.

When I first tried it I didn't realise it had an elevation control. I
turned it on and it swept across three back gardens (Victorian
terrace) first clearing a 6' paneled fence!

In it's lowest setting and maybe 45 degree arc it easily sweeps across
and back and covering the length of our garden (~35 foot)?

There is one downside with them though, you have to remember they are
there! A gardener mate of mine came round and was interested in it. I
said "wave your hand in front of it" so he walked out into the garden!
Ironically he actually matched it's path across our garden and back
and was pretty damp when it stopped g. I then told him he had 5
seconds to get off the garden (or pretend to be a statue) before he
copped another batch! ;-)

For scaring pests it's real ace is the stealthy way it starts and the
area it covers. It sits there quietly then without warning sprays this
jet of water *everywhere* in a sprinkler "pfpfpfpfpf pft pft pft pft
pft" stylee.

Even if I turn the water off it will still soak you if you walk past
it just from the pressure of the water stored in the hose.

All the best ...

T i m





Astral Voyager 04-07-2008 02:03 AM

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"fedupofsalt" wrote:

Try anything citrus. Lemon rind etc. I dont know if you can
buy some sort of citrus spray.


I have seen that mentioned somewhere before. How about Jif lemon juice? But
as mentioned earlier, I would be concerned about any deterrent that would
also impact on the local hedgehogs or any other wildlife.

Buy a male cat.


That is too extreme. I dislike cats generally. Domestic cats are pointless
creatures.

I do recall seeing once a metal profile of a cat with its back arched which
you stuck in the ground. I don't know if they worked. I suppose I could try
making my own. There must be a suitable image somewhere on the web.

If you have a male they will also spray to mark their territory...


In which case some local cat must think he owns my car - as the wheels often
have suspicious marks on them that I suspect is cat ****.

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fedupofsalt 04-07-2008 03:17 AM

Few answers! Try anything citrus. Lemon rind etc. I dont know if you can buy some sort of citrus spray. Prevention is better than the cure. As said in a previous response, cover the ground. A newly raked bed or plot might as well have a neon sign.

Buy a male cat. Cats never leave anything in their own garden. If you have a male they will also spray to mark their territory,(spelt wrong i think) which will deter other cat's.

If your lucky enough to have a big garden, plant some catnip in an unused corner. Bears around a honey pot, flys round s**t, rubber neckers at a crash etc etc.

Pete Hurst 04-07-2008 04:22 PM

I suspect Alan is a dog lover.

Also, I suspect that cat crap will actually be full of nitrogen, and beneficial to your soil.

Or am I being naive?

Maybe the best thing to do is leave an area specifically for the cats to use. Perhaps douse it with catnip to encourage them to use it. Move the area each year as part of your crop rotation.

Pete

Rusty Hinge 2 04-07-2008 07:32 PM

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Few answers! Try anything citrus. Lemon rind etc. I dont know if you can
buy some sort of citrus spray. Prevention is better than the cure. As
said in a previous response, cover the ground. A newly raked bed or
plot might as well have a neon sign.


Oil of citronella...

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