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Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
Hi,
I have several occurrences of a weed known as "Selfheal" in my lawn. It has not reached the point where it is becoming rampant but I have pulled up approximately 20 of the spreading web like shoots that I have so far located. On reading a bit about it I think I need to take some positive action now rather than later to control the weed. Can anyone please recommend an efficient treatment that I can purchase in the UK to get rid of the "Selfheal" that will not compromise my lawn. Regards "Anxious In Surrey" |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
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writes On 29/7/08 17:35, in article , "tbg" wrote: Hi, I have several occurrences of a weed known as "Selfheal" in my lawn. It has not reached the point where it is becoming rampant but I have pulled up approximately 20 of the spreading web like shoots that I have so far located. On reading a bit about it I think I need to take some positive action now rather than later to control the weed. Can anyone please recommend an efficient treatment that I can purchase in the UK to get rid of the "Selfheal" that will not compromise my lawn. It's not a weed, it's a wild flower and is called Selfheal because it's used to cure mouth ulcers and sore throats. It's a little ironic to think that others might pay quite a lot of money for a wild flower garden containing it! Perhaps you could allow at least a little patch to flourish? I grow some in our wildflower areas as it is a good butterfly and bee plant as well as having attractive blue flowers. In a lawn it can be a bit of a problem as mowing, even relatively close mowing, does not control it. Scalping the lawn or grazing with sheep will but I don't suppose that you want to go down that route. The only organic alternative is to dig the plants up before they spread to far. Failing that you will need to try repeated applications of a selective weed killer such as Verdone. -- Robert Hibell |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
On 29 Jul, 17:35, tbg wrote:
Hi, I have several occurrences of a weed known as "Selfheal" in my lawn. It has not reached the point where it is becoming rampant but I have pulled up approximately 20 of the spreading web like shoots that I have so far located. On reading a bit about it I think I need to take some positive action now rather than later to control the weed. Can anyone please recommend an efficient treatment that I can purchase in the UK to get rid of the "Selfheal" that will not compromise my lawn. Regards "Anxious In Surrey" First of all - why? it's an attractive native plant as Sacha has already said. However if you must, it is a typical plant of rather impoverished lawns that are probably very compacted and have probably been mown too short. You can reduce it a lot by helping the grass to compete more effectively. Mow frequently but set the mower a bit higher. Do some work on relieving the compaction, a good feed now and plenty of water if the monsoon hasn't yet arrived in your neck of the woods. Scarify vigorously as well. I'd see how you do over a couple of seasons of that before resorting to selective weedkillers. You'll be surprised to see how the mix of grasses and other plants changes according to how you manage it. |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
" I have several occurrences of a weed known as "Selfheal" in my lawn. It has not reached the point where it is becoming rampant but I have pulled up approximately 20 of the spreading web like shoots that I have so far located. On reading a bit about it I think I need to take some positive action now rather than later to control the weed. Can anyone please recommend an efficient treatment that I can purchase in the UK to get rid of the "Selfheal" that will not compromise my lawn. Regards "Anxious In Surrey" First of all - why? it's an attractive native plant as Sacha has already said. Could you not bring yourself to leave it alone, I have lots of it on my lawns and in the paddock and it is a beautiful little plant. kate |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
On 29/7/08 18:46, in article
, "Rod" wrote: On 29 Jul, 17:35, tbg wrote: Hi, I have several occurrences of a weed known as "Selfheal" in my lawn. It has not reached the point where it is becoming rampant but I have pulled up approximately 20 of the spreading web like shoots that I have so far located. On reading a bit about it I think I need to take some positive action now rather than later to control the weed. Can anyone please recommend an efficient treatment that I can purchase in the UK to get rid of the "Selfheal" that will not compromise my lawn. Regards "Anxious In Surrey" First of all - why? it's an attractive native plant as Sacha has already said. However if you must, it is a typical plant of rather impoverished lawns that are probably very compacted and have probably been mown too short. You can reduce it a lot by helping the grass to compete more effectively. Mow frequently but set the mower a bit higher. Do some work on relieving the compaction, a good feed now and plenty of water if the monsoon hasn't yet arrived in your neck of the woods. Scarify vigorously as well. I'd see how you do over a couple of seasons of that before resorting to selective weedkillers. You'll be surprised to see how the mix of grasses and other plants changes according to how you manage it. Does what you are describing mimic land grazed by sheep, Rod? I know I'm off on a dream of my own here but I wonder if our Surrey gardener can't be persuaded to start a new fashion in his corner of Surrey? (says she who lived in Haslemere for a little time and thought then, in the 70s, that Hostas were 'boring'!) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
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Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
One mans meat is another mans poison, hence, I have decided to poison
the weed with a vigorous effort by attacking it with a selective weedkiller with a follow up treatment later on. In addition I shal make efforts to improve the general well being of the lawn by aeration etc. Now, wheres my nearest stockist of a large box of 2,4 dichlorophenoxy acetate, prunella vulgaris will be vulgar no more, it will be dead. Rgds |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
On Jul 30, 6:32 am, tbg wrote:
One mans meat is another mans poison, hence, I have decided to poison the weed with a vigorous effort by attacking it with a selective weedkiller with a follow up treatment later on. In addition I shal make efforts to improve the general well being of the lawn by aeration etc. Now, wheres my nearest stockist of a large box of 2,4 dichlorophenoxy acetate, prunella vulgaris will be vulgar no more, it will be dead. Rgds You could just use tarmac or if you want a green look, try astroturf or just get an apartment with no garden. |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
On Jul 30, 1:34*pm, Des Higgins wrote:
On Jul 30, 6:32 am, tbg wrote: One mans meat is another mans poison, hence, I have decided to poison the weed with a vigorous effort by attacking it with a selective weedkiller with a follow up treatment later on. In addition I shal make efforts to improve the general well being of the lawn by aeration etc. Now, wheres my nearest stockist of a large box of 2,4 dichlorophenoxy acetate, prunella vulgaris will be vulgar no more, it will be dead. Rgds You could just use tarmac or if you want a green look, try astroturf or just get an apartment with no garden. :-) Some people have too much time on their hands, or plan to use their lawns for putting practice. My lawn is chocfull of weeds, including the selfheal in question, a couple of patches. Lots of daisies, and white clover, the odd thistle, docks and god knows what else. But when clipped tight - which weather permitting I try to do every week end - it looks lovely and densely green, and it is particularly nice for a kickaround, or even to lie out on on the couple of days in the year that that odd shiny hot object appears in the sky. Between clippings, it is lovely and "enameled" (as they apparently did in medieval times) with white and gold daisies, purple selfheal and white clover. Life's too short to be anal about lawns, in my book :-) Cat(h) |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
On 30/7/08 14:00, in article
, "Cat(h)" wrote: On Jul 30, 1:34*pm, Des Higgins wrote: On Jul 30, 6:32 am, tbg wrote: One mans meat is another mans poison, hence, I have decided to poison the weed with a vigorous effort by attacking it with a selective weedkiller with a follow up treatment later on. In addition I shal make efforts to improve the general well being of the lawn by aeration etc. Now, wheres my nearest stockist of a large box of 2,4 dichlorophenoxy acetate, prunella vulgaris will be vulgar no more, it will be dead. Rgds You could just use tarmac or if you want a green look, try astroturf or just get an apartment with no garden. :-) Some people have too much time on their hands, or plan to use their lawns for putting practice. My lawn is chocfull of weeds, including the selfheal in question, a couple of patches. Lots of daisies, and white clover, the odd thistle, docks and god knows what else. But when clipped tight - which weather permitting I try to do every week end - it looks lovely and densely green, and it is particularly nice for a kickaround, or even to lie out on on the couple of days in the year that that odd shiny hot object appears in the sky. Between clippings, it is lovely and "enameled" (as they apparently did in medieval times) with white and gold daisies, purple selfheal and white clover. Life's too short to be anal about lawns, in my book :-) Cat(h) The preoccupation with lawns seems to be an intensely British passion. That slab of bowling green is essential to some peoples' peace of mind. In Crete we saw several villas with immaculate lawns nobody ever sat on because they all sat on the terraces of their pools. It infuriated the locals, to whom water is immensely precious, to see it wasted on these meaningless bits of greenery which aren't even useful to a goat! Our lawns have daisies, a few dandelions, violets, some clover, and enchantingly, white violets on one of them. Under a tree we have cyclamen, bluebells, daffs. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
On Jul 30, 2:00 pm, "Cat(h)" wrote:
On Jul 30, 1:34 pm, Des Higgins wrote: On Jul 30, 6:32 am, tbg wrote: One mans meat is another mans poison, hence, I have decided to poison the weed with a vigorous effort by attacking it with a selective weedkiller with a follow up treatment later on. In addition I shal make efforts to improve the general well being of the lawn by aeration etc. Now, wheres my nearest stockist of a large box of 2,4 dichlorophenoxy acetate, prunella vulgaris will be vulgar no more, it will be dead. Rgds You could just use tarmac or if you want a green look, try astroturf or just get an apartment with no garden. :-) Some people have too much time on their hands, or plan to use their lawns for putting practice. My lawn is chocfull of weeds, including the selfheal in question, a couple of patches. Lots of daisies, and white clover, the odd thistle, docks and god knows what else. But when clipped tight - which weather permitting I try to do every week end - it looks lovely and densely green, and it is particularly nice for a kickaround, or even to lie out on on the couple of days in the year that that odd shiny hot object appears in the sky. Between clippings, it is lovely and "enameled" (as they apparently did in medieval times) with white and gold daisies, purple selfheal and white clover. Life's too short to be anal about lawns, in my book :-) Cat(h) We have 2 bumble bee nests in our garden and a wall of knee high thistles, docks and ragworts in our wild bit. It depresses me when people want gardens to be sterile and freak at the slightest oddity and want instant chemical solutions. Yer man has selfheal in his lawn because the lawn is shite not because he has been lax with his chemicals. If he wants a nice lawn, he has to put some time in. Spraying it will waste the money and give him a patchy lawn with bare bits and the weeds will regrow in a while. If he wants a nice lawn he has to scarify, aerate, feed and mow correctly. I saw a clip on Nationwide a few weeks ago where some folks in Cabinteely have made a wildflower meadow in the fantastic Cabinteely Park. I was pleased to see that until, I saw one of them "weeding". They explained that they did not want docks and thistles. I wonder did she ask why greenfinches and chaffinches are now so uncommon in the cities. They cannot feed on hanging baskets or weed suppressing membranes. I am in grumpy old man mood. Des |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
On Jul 30, 2:26*pm, Des Higgins wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:00 pm, "Cat(h)" wrote: On Jul 30, 1:34 pm, Des Higgins wrote: On Jul 30, 6:32 am, tbg wrote: One mans meat is another mans poison, hence, I have decided to poison the weed with a vigorous effort by attacking it with a selective weedkiller with a follow up treatment later on. In addition I shal make efforts to improve the general well being of the lawn by aeration etc. Now, wheres my nearest stockist of a large box of 2,4 dichlorophenoxy acetate, prunella vulgaris will be vulgar no more, it will be dead. Rgds You could just use tarmac or if you want a green look, try astroturf or just get an apartment with no garden. :-) *Some people have too much time on their hands, or plan to use their lawns for putting practice. My lawn is chocfull of weeds, including the selfheal in question, a couple of patches. *Lots of daisies, and white clover, the odd thistle, docks and god knows what else. But when clipped tight - which weather permitting I try to do every week end - it looks lovely and densely green, and it is particularly nice for a kickaround, or even to lie out on on the couple of days in the year that *that odd shiny hot object appears in the sky. Between clippings, it is lovely and "enameled" (as they apparently did in medieval times) with white and gold daisies, purple selfheal and white clover. Life's too short to be anal about lawns, in my book :-) Cat(h) We have 2 bumble bee nests in our garden and a wall of knee high thistles, docks and ragworts in our wild bit. *It depresses me when people want gardens to be sterile and freak at the slightest oddity and want instant chemical solutions. *Yer man has selfheal in his lawn because the lawn is shite not because he has been lax with his chemicals. *If he wants a nice lawn, he has to put some time in. Spraying it will waste the money and give him a patchy lawn with bare bits and the weeds will regrow in a while. *If he wants a nice lawn he has to scarify, aerate, feed and mow correctly. To be fair to the guy, he said this was exactly what he proposed to do. My idea of a lawn is obviously more relaxed than his, but it doesn't either correspond to a wild meadow. I like my lawn to be reasonably clipped tight and green. I would take action if I had bare patches. My front tiny lawn is probably 40% moss, but I only scratch it once in a blue moon. Once, I tried the feed and weed stuff - only to end up with lots of nasty black patches around the place. I'd rather green moss than black patches. I saw a clip on Nationwide a few weeks ago where some folks in Cabinteely have made a wildflower meadow in the fantastic Cabinteely Park. *I was pleased to see that until, I saw one of them "weeding". They explained that they did not want docks and thistles. *I wonder did she ask why greenfinches and chaffinches are now so uncommon in the cities. *They cannot feed on hanging baskets or weed suppressing membranes. Very true. I can afford to weed *and* have plenty of birds because I am surrounded by horse and cattle paddocks and hedgerows. I am in grumpy old man mood. It befits you wonderously. Cat(h) |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
Cat(h) wrote:
On Jul 30, 1:34 pm, Des Higgins wrote: On Jul 30, 6:32 am, tbg wrote: One mans meat is another mans poison, hence, I have decided to poison the weed with a vigorous effort by attacking it with a selective weedkiller with a follow up treatment later on. In addition I shal make efforts to improve the general well being of the lawn by aeration etc. Now, wheres my nearest stockist of a large box of 2,4 dichlorophenoxy acetate, prunella vulgaris will be vulgar no more, it will be dead. Rgds You could just use tarmac or if you want a green look, try astroturf or just get an apartment with no garden. :-) Some people have too much time on their hands, or plan to use their lawns for putting practice. My lawn is chocfull of weeds, including the selfheal in question, a couple of patches. Lots of daisies, and white clover, the odd thistle, docks and god knows what else. I draw the line at buttercups, dandelions, thistles and docks. They are not welcome although sometimes tolerated against the hedge or fence. I encourage clover and various low growing wildflowers. I make a token effort to discourage daisies once a year. But when clipped tight - which weather permitting I try to do every week end - it looks lovely and densely green, and it is particularly nice for a kickaround, or even to lie out on on the couple of days in the year that that odd shiny hot object appears in the sky. Between clippings, it is lovely and "enameled" (as they apparently did in medieval times) with white and gold daisies, purple selfheal and white clover. Life's too short to be anal about lawns, in my book :-) I agree. Besides I like having some flowers in it. Some of the smaller bellis plants will grow OK in a regularly cut lawn which allows for daisy like flowers with a wider range of colours. Regards, Martin Brown ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
Control Of Weed Called "Selfheal" In Lawn - Help Please !!
"Cat(h)" writes
:-) Some people have too much time on their hands, or plan to use their lawns for putting practice. My lawn is chocfull of weeds, including the selfheal in question, a couple of patches. Lots of daisies, and white clover, the odd thistle, docks and god knows what else. But when clipped tight - which weather permitting I try to do every week end - it looks lovely and densely green, and it is particularly nice for a kickaround, or even to lie out on on the couple of days in the year that that odd shiny hot object appears in the sky. Between clippings, it is lovely and "enameled" (as they apparently did in medieval times) with white and gold daisies, purple selfheal and white clover. Life's too short to be anal about lawns, in my book :-) On the same day as the OP posted his plea, I was celebrating because my lawn has just produced its first clump of self-heal, to go along with the white clover, daisies, et al. -- Kay |
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