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Tree reccommendation?
Dear all,
We have a particularly ugly block of flats overlooking our garden: http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8081009rz4.jpg I want to plant a tree between the trees you can see in this picture to provide screening. The existing trees are beyond our boundary on the other side of a high wall/fence. The ideal height and shape would be a the same tree as the one you see on the right - anyone able to identify that? Or any other ideas? I have toyed with the idea of the dreaded leyland cyprus, but I'm not very keen on them. The base of the tree would be no more than 10 metres from the back of the house. By the way I'm well-aware that (with the exception of the leylandii possibility) this is long-term planning, I'm hoping for a bit more privacy in our retirement! |
Tree reccommendation?
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:38:36 +0100, Charlie Pridham
I think the existing trees may be limes Thanks for this. A quick look at limes suggests they're fairly slow- growing. I would say the tree to the right is around 9 metres high, which is what the "new" tree would need to reach to make a good screen. I know I said it was a long-term project, but it looks like I won't be around to see it get there if it's a lime! Any suggestions for something that would go a bit faster? |
Tree reccommendation?
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:38:36 +0100, Charlie Pridham I think the existing trees may be limes Thanks for this. A quick look at limes suggests they're fairly slow- growing. I would say the tree to the right is around 9 metres high, which is what the "new" tree would need to reach to make a good screen. I know I said it was a long-term project, but it looks like I won't be around to see it get there if it's a lime! Any suggestions for something that would go a bit faster? I don't think the original trees are limes - if you look closely towards the bottom RH of the LH tree, the leaves are lobed. Shape is rather sycamore-ish, but the tree looks too conical, so perhaps one of the other maples? -- Kay |
Tree reccommendation?
In article , K writes: | | I don't think the original trees are limes - if you look closely towards | the bottom RH of the LH tree, the leaves are lobed. Shape is rather | sycamore-ish, but the tree looks too conical, so perhaps one of the | other maples? That was my reaction, but plane leaves are also lobed. For better indentification, we need a closer picture of the leaves and of the fruit (if any). The answer is, of course, there are plenty of suitable trees - but we need to know the location, soil type, whether deciduous or evergreen is wanted, and the timescale to grow to 9 metres. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Tree reccommendation?
wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:38:36 +0100, Charlie Pridham I think the existing trees may be limes Thanks for this. A quick look at limes suggests they're fairly slow- growing. I would say the tree to the right is around 9 metres high, which is what the "new" tree would need to reach to make a good screen. I know I said it was a long-term project, but it looks like I won't be around to see it get there if it's a lime! Any suggestions for something that would go a bit faster? Lleylandi would grow a lot faster than that and spread out a bit. |
Tree reccommendation?
On 2 Aug, 17:16, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
That was my reaction, but plane leaves are also lobed. *For better indentification, we need a closer picture of the leaves and of the fruit (if any). The answer is, of course, there are plenty of suitable trees - but we need to know the location, soil type, whether deciduous or evergreen is wanted, and the timescale to grow to 9 metres. Hi, Thanks for all contributions so far. Here are some more pictures that may help with identifying the existing trees, sorry but I'm hampered by using a low quality phone camera and by the trees being the other side of a high wall. The leaves are about hand-sized, and have five "points", I think you can just about see from the photos. http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8081723hm0.jpg http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8081724oh2.jpg The location for the new tree is quite sheltered. It will be immediately north of a six foot wall, and immediately east of another six foot wall with a six foot mesh fence on top of it. Soil type I don't know about, it's in north London if that helps, quite heavy and holds water well, without being waterlogged. We tend to prefer deciduous trees, although in many ways I can see the advantage of evergreen as an all-year screen. The types of evergreen I personally prefer, the broad-leafed ones like holly rather than the coniferous ones, are I think very slow-growing? I guess it would be nice if it could get to 9m in ten years. We'd be prepared to shell out for a reasonably mature sapling, maybe two or three metres already, to give us a head start. If we can put up with it being coniferous I'm beginning to think maybe a leylandii isn't such a bad idea for this particular purpose. |
Tree reccommendation?
On Aug 2, 10:50*am, "
wrote: We have a particularly ugly block of flats overlooking our garden:http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8081009rz4.jpg (snipette) Those two trees are acer campestre - field maples and they looked self seeded to me. If you want evergreen, so that you have privacy in winter too, you could either plant a holy or holm oak - it's not rapid growth, but how long do you have and how much can you afford? A friend in a similar situation as you planted an hazel contorta, its twisted branches are wonderful in winter and obscure the building across her garden quite well, it is also interesting in spring with its yellow catkins. After about 10 years it looks splendid. Finally, and if I was you, I'd plant a nut tree, either a walnut or chestnut. Your grand children will enjoy these very much I'm sure. |
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On 2 Aug, 20:25, wrote:
Those two trees are acer campestre- field maples and they looked self seeded to me. If you want evergreen, so that you have privacy in winter too, you could either plant a holy or holm oak - it's not rapid growth, but how long do you have and how much can you afford? A friend in a similar situation as you planted an hazel contorta, its twisted branches are wonderful in winter and obscure the building across her garden quite well, it is also interesting in spring with its yellow catkins. After about 10 years it looks splendid. Finally, and if I was you, I'd plant a nut tree, either a walnut or chestnut. Your grand children will enjoy these very much I'm sure. Thanks Helene, having just done a bit of googling you're right about acer campestre. I'm interested in the nut tree idea, and having something productive in the garden, although the timescale involved is more than we'd like. Any ideas for fruit trees that would grow into the appropriate columnar/conical shape and reach the required height at maturity (say 10m)? |
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, " writes Thanks for all contributions so far. Here are some more pictures that may help with identifying the existing trees, sorry but I'm hampered by using a low quality phone camera and by the trees being the other side of a high wall. The leaves are about hand-sized, and have five "points", I think you can just about see from the photos. http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8081723hm0.jpg http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8081724oh2.jpg Not limes then. I'd guess at London Plane (Platanus hispanica) or Norway Maple (Acer platanoides) - the leaf apices are too acute for Sycamore (Acer pseudoplatanus). The plant in the foreground of the first picture is tulip-tree (Liriodendron tulipifera). Is the purple-leaved tree over to the left the same as the others, apart from leaf colour? That would be a point in favour of Norway Maple; purple leaved forms of that are quite commonly planted. Otherwise, London Plane has mottled bark, and fuzzy round seed heads (about 1 inch in diameter); Norway Maple has winged seeds in pairs, like a Sycamore, or other maples. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
Tree reccommendation?
On 2/8/08 22:57, in article lid, "Stewart Robert
Hinsley" wrote: In message , " writes Thanks for all contributions so far. Here are some more pictures that may help with identifying the existing trees, sorry but I'm hampered by using a low quality phone camera and by the trees being the other side of a high wall. The leaves are about hand-sized, and have five "points", I think you can just about see from the photos. http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8081723hm0.jpg http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8081724oh2.jpg Not limes then. I'd guess at London Plane (Platanus hispanica) or Norway Maple (Acer platanoides) - the leaf apices are too acute for Sycamore (Acer pseudoplatanus). The plant in the foreground of the first picture is tulip-tree (Liriodendron tulipifera). Is the purple-leaved tree over to the left the same as the others, apart from leaf colour? That would be a point in favour of Norway Maple; purple leaved forms of that are quite commonly planted. Otherwise, London Plane has mottled bark, and fuzzy round seed heads (about 1 inch in diameter); Norway Maple has winged seeds in pairs, like a Sycamore, or other maples. Is JD the same person as JayDee, I wonder? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon |
Tree reccommendation?
On 2 Aug, 22:57, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote: Not limes then. I'd guess at London Plane (Platanus hispanica) or Norway Maple (Acer platanoides) - the leaf apices are too acute for Sycamore (Acer pseudoplatanus). The plant in the foreground of the first picture is tulip-tree (Liriodendron tulipifera). Is the purple-leaved tree over to the left the same as the others, apart from leaf colour? That would be a point in favour of Norway Maple; purple leaved forms of that are quite commonly planted. Otherwise, London Plane has mottled bark, and fuzzy round seed heads (about 1 inch in diameter); Norway Maple has winged seeds in pairs, like a Sycamore, or other maples. Hi Stewart, The purple-leaved tree is something else. From the pictures I've found through Google I think Helene is right with acer campestre. Well- spotted with the liriodendron tulipifera - that's the young tree currently occupying the spot to be filled. However, as far as I can see that is likely to grow far too large when it's mature, so the plan is to remove it and replace with something more suitable. |
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Tree reccommendation?
"KThose two trees are acer campestre - field maples and they looked self seeded to me. If you want evergreen, so that you have privacy in winter too, you could either plant a holy or holm oak - it's not rapid growth, but how long do you have and how much can you afford? A friend in a similar situation as you planted an hazel contorta, its twisted branches are wonderful in winter and obscure the building across her garden quite well, it is also interesting in spring with its yellow catkins. After about 10 years it looks splendid. It's never going to grow tall, though. -- Kay How tall does it have to be, I have several hazel contorta and they are about 16ft tall + and fill out a lot if space but perhaps not tall enough kate |
Tree reccommendation?
Kate Morgan writes
"KThose two trees are acer campestre - field maples and they looked self seeded to me. If you want evergreen, so that you have privacy in winter too, you could either plant a holy or holm oak - it's not rapid growth, but how long do you have and how much can you afford? A friend in a similar situation as you planted an hazel contorta, its twisted branches are wonderful in winter and obscure the building across her garden quite well, it is also interesting in spring with its yellow catkins. After about 10 years it looks splendid. It's never going to grow tall, though. How tall does it have to be, I have several hazel contorta and they are about 16ft tall + and fill out a lot if space but perhaps not tall enough 9m in 10 years is what the OP asked for. -- Kay |
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