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Marie Dodge 08-08-2008 11:09 PM

Garden Incinerator
 

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
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I already have a compost bin on my allotment but wonder if there is any
need for a garden incinerator as well? I'm referring to those small
galvanised metal bins with holes in them and a lid on top with a small
chimney.

What exactly are they used for? Apart from burning say, perennial weeds
such as bindweed, I cannot see why I don't chuck stuff straight onto the
compost heap and let it compost there.

Does anyone here use one?


We burn all diseased plant material. It doesn't go into our compost heap
but the ashes do.


Simon[_6_] 10-08-2008 08:43 PM

Garden Incinerator
 
Are ashes too basic for compost piles? I've heard they are since
people used them in the past to make the alkaline part of soaps. just
wondering.

thanks,
Simon


On Aug 8, 5:09 pm, "Marie Dodge" wrote:
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message

...



I already have a compost bin on my allotment but wonder if there is any
need for a garden incinerator as well? I'm referring to those small
galvanised metal bins with holes in them and a lid on top with a small
chimney.


What exactly are they used for? Apart from burning say, perennial weeds
such as bindweed, I cannot see why I don't chuck stuff straight onto the
compost heap and let it compost there.


Does anyone here use one?


We burn all diseased plant material. It doesn't go into our compost heap
but the ashes do.



dyogi 11-08-2008 01:46 AM

Garden Incinerator
 
On Aug 10, 3:43 pm, Simon wrote:
Are ashes too basic for compost piles? I've heard they are since
people used them in the past to make the alkaline part of soaps. just
wondering.

thanks,
Simon

On Aug 8, 5:09 pm, "Marie Dodge" wrote:

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message


...


I already have a compost bin on my allotment but wonder if there is any
need for a garden incinerator as well? I'm referring to those small
galvanised metal bins with holes in them and a lid on top with a small
chimney.


What exactly are they used for? Apart from burning say, perennial weeds
such as bindweed, I cannot see why I don't chuck stuff straight onto the
compost heap and let it compost there.


Does anyone here use one?


We burn all diseased plant material. It doesn't go into our compost heap
but the ashes do.


I've heard master gardeners discourage the use of ashes in composting
and gardening. At the same time, I ran a wood furnace for years, and
added all the ashes to my compost pile. When the proportion of ash to
grass clippings and leaves is very low, you shouldn't have a problem.
If ash comes up as a noticeable percentage of the composted material,
consider using it on icy sidewalks rather than in your compost.

Marie Dodge 11-08-2008 04:51 AM

Garden Incinerator
 

"Simon" wrote in message
...
Are ashes too basic for compost piles? I've heard they are since
people used them in the past to make the alkaline part of soaps. just
wondering.


I'm sure they add to the alkalinity but so far we haven't had any problems
with PH. We also use sulphur and Ironite in the spring before planting. And
a 10-10-10 for veggies plus whatever organic matter accumulated over the
winter. That gives all the plants rich green leaves and the tomatoes and
peppers set fruit like crazy.


thanks,
Simon


On Aug 8, 5:09 pm, "Marie Dodge" wrote:
"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message

...



I already have a compost bin on my allotment but wonder if there is any
need for a garden incinerator as well? I'm referring to those small
galvanised metal bins with holes in them and a lid on top with a small
chimney.


What exactly are they used for? Apart from burning say, perennial
weeds
such as bindweed, I cannot see why I don't chuck stuff straight onto
the
compost heap and let it compost there.


Does anyone here use one?


We burn all diseased plant material. It doesn't go into our compost heap
but the ashes do.




Marie Dodge 11-08-2008 04:53 AM

Garden Incinerator
 

"dyogi" wrote in message
...

I've heard master gardeners discourage the use of ashes in composting
and gardening. At the same time, I ran a wood furnace for years, and
added all the ashes to my compost pile. When the proportion of ash to
grass clippings and leaves is very low, you shouldn't have a problem.
If ash comes up as a noticeable percentage of the composted material,
consider using it on icy sidewalks rather than in your compost.


Or spread them over your lawn in a thin layer. Ash is minerals and too
valuable to send to the dump. We don't have tons of ash, just from our
fireplace and outdoor fire-bin when we burn anything that may be diseased.


FarmI 11-08-2008 09:59 AM

Garden Incinerator
 
"dyogi" wrote in message
On Aug 10, 3:43 pm, Simon wrote:
Are ashes too basic for compost piles? I've heard they are since
people used them in the past to make the alkaline part of soaps. just
wondering.


I've heard master gardeners discourage the use of ashes in composting
and gardening.


Hmmm. I don't think I'd respect anyone who said not to use ashes in the
garden. In compost then maybe, but as you pointed out, it's fine but not in
huge quantities.

Ash, soot and biochar are all good things to use in the garden.



Val 11-08-2008 11:01 AM

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"Marie Dodge" wrote in message
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I'm sure they add to the alkalinity but so far we haven't had any problems
with PH. We also use sulphur and Ironite in the spring before planting.
And a 10-10-10 for veggies plus whatever organic matter accumulated over
the winter. That gives all the plants rich green leaves and the tomatoes
and peppers set fruit like crazy.


Is this the same garden with the withered and diseased squash and peppers
you've been whining about? The same garden you have haphazardly dumped all
that toxic shit to get rid of rampant insect infestation? You are sorely
lacking in credibility.

Val



Marie Dodge 12-08-2008 10:39 PM

Garden Incinerator
 

"Val" wrote in message
...

"Marie Dodge" wrote in message
...

I'm sure they add to the alkalinity but so far we haven't had any
problems with PH. We also use sulphur and Ironite in the spring before
planting. And a 10-10-10 for veggies plus whatever organic matter
accumulated over the winter. That gives all the plants rich green leaves
and the tomatoes and peppers set fruit like crazy.


Is this the same garden with the withered and diseased squash and peppers
you've been whining about?


Please explain how an abnormal insect pest infestation is related to adding
compost and fertilizer to a garden? Yes, these gardens have been extremely
productive for close to 20 years. Only one is suffering the whitefly and
mite infestation. That really eats your lunch for some reason. And why do
you whine constantly about what people add to their gardens?

The same garden you have haphazardly dumped all
that toxic shit to get rid of rampant insect infestation?


Which toxic shit was dumped in these gardens? Compost? Ashes? Those are
the only things "dumped" there. Was I supposed to spray them with sugar and
water to try and stop the invasion?

You are sorely
lacking in credibility.


And you're nothing but an ignorant, arrogant self centered troll who thinks
insect pests can be gotten rid of by scattering some compost under the
plants.




Val



Judith in France 12-08-2008 11:08 PM

Garden Incinerator
 
On Aug 11, 4:53*am, "Marie Dodge" wrote:
"dyogi" wrote in message

...



I've heard master gardeners discourage the use of ashes in composting
and gardening. *At the same time, I ran a wood furnace for years, and
added all the ashes to my compost pile. *When the proportion of ash to
grass clippings and leaves is very low, you shouldn't have a problem.
If ash comes up as a noticeable percentage of the composted material,
consider using it on icy sidewalks rather than in your compost.


Or spread them over your lawn in a thin layer. *Ash is minerals and too
valuable to send to the dump. We don't have tons of ash, just from our
fireplace and outdoor fire-bin when we burn anything that may be diseased..


We have a woodburner, all the ash goes on the garden. We have done
this for years and I don't see a problem.

Judith

Judith in France 12-08-2008 11:10 PM

Garden Incinerator
 
On Aug 12, 10:39*pm, "Marie Dodge" wrote:
"Val" wrote in message

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"Marie Dodge" wrote in message
...


I'm sure they add to the alkalinity but so far we haven't had any
problems with PH. We also use sulphur and Ironite in the spring before
planting. And a 10-10-10 for veggies plus whatever organic matter
accumulated over the winter. *That gives all the plants rich green leaves
and the tomatoes and peppers set fruit like crazy.


Is this the same garden with the withered and diseased squash and peppers
you've been whining about?


Please explain how an abnormal insect pest infestation is related to adding
compost and fertilizer to a garden? *Yes, these gardens have been extremely
productive for close to 20 years. *Only one is suffering the whitefly and
mite infestation. That really eats your lunch for some reason. And why do
you whine constantly about what people add to their gardens?

The same garden you have haphazardly dumped all

that toxic shit to get rid of rampant insect infestation?


Which toxic shit was dumped in these gardens? *Compost? *Ashes? *Those are
the only things "dumped" there. *Was I supposed to spray them with sugar and
water to try and stop the invasion?

You are sorely

lacking in credibility.


And you're nothing but an ignorant, arrogant self centered troll who thinks
insect pests can be gotten rid of by scattering some compost under the
plants.





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Marie, ignore it. Now did I tell you how I got rid of my
blackfly? :-)

Judith

Marie Dodge 17-08-2008 03:26 AM

Garden Incinerator
 

"Judith in France" wrote in message
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Marie, ignore it. Now did I tell you how I got rid of my

blackfly? :-)

No you didn't. What worked for you? :-))



Judith


Judith in France 18-08-2008 11:18 AM

Garden Incinerator
 
On Aug 17, 3:26*am, "Marie Dodge" wrote:
"Judith in France" wrote in ...

Marie, ignore it. *Now did I tell you how I got rid of my


blackfly? *:-)

No you didn't. What worked for you? *:-))

Judith


Soap and water, a squirt of washing up liquid in a spray. I used to
use a lot of chemicals but I am now trying, hard, to cut down.
However, if all else fails no doubt I will resort to them.

Judith


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