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Can anyone help please?
I have masses of ivy that keeps encroaching on my garden. There used to be
some commercial products to kill ivy but I understand they are no longer
available. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can kill it- or at the
very best give it a severe headache to discourage it?

Many thanks

John


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Can anyone help please?
I have masses of ivy that keeps encroaching on my garden. There used
to be some commercial products to kill ivy but I understand they are
no longer available. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can kill
it- or at the very best give it a severe headache to discourage it?

Many thanks

John

Execution/castration!
A pair of shears used with enthusiasm to control, or cut it off at the base
for a permanent solution.
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JCYates wrote:
Can anyone help please?
I have masses of ivy that keeps encroaching on my garden. There used
to be some commercial products to kill ivy but I understand they are
no longer available. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can kill
it- or at the very best give it a severe headache to discourage it?

Many thanks

John

Execution/castration!
A pair of shears used with enthusiasm to control, or cut it off at the
base for a permanent solution.


I did that - cut off the base, leaving a couple of inches between the stump
and the stem. I also cut off all the leaves forom the stems but because they
were twisted and decorative i left them, in fact I sprayed them bronze.

Leaves began to appear on the stems a few weeks later. There's still a large
gap at the base of the stem - no Earthly root system - but it's covered with
green now.

Heigh ho ...

Mary


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Mary Fisher wrote:
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JCYates wrote:
Can anyone help please?
I have masses of ivy that keeps encroaching on my garden. There used
to be some commercial products to kill ivy but I understand they are no
longer available. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can
kill it- or at the very best give it a severe headache to
discourage it? Many thanks

John

Execution/castration!
A pair of shears used with enthusiasm to control, or cut it off at
the base for a permanent solution.


I did that - cut off the base, leaving a couple of inches between the
stump and the stem. I also cut off all the leaves forom the stems but
because they were twisted and decorative i left them, in fact I
sprayed them bronze.
Leaves began to appear on the stems a few weeks later. There's still
a large gap at the base of the stem - no Earthly root system - but
it's covered with green now.

Heigh ho ...

Mary

We've all seen plants growing from cracks in walls. I guess your ivy is
getting nutrients the same way. It was a couple of years before I finally
got the last of mine off the wall.
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Mary Fisher wrote:
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JCYates wrote:
Can anyone help please?
I have masses of ivy that keeps encroaching on my garden. There used
to be some commercial products to kill ivy but I understand they are no
longer available. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can
kill it- or at the very best give it a severe headache to
discourage it? Many thanks

John
Execution/castration!
A pair of shears used with enthusiasm to control, or cut it off at
the base for a permanent solution.


I did that - cut off the base, leaving a couple of inches between the
stump and the stem. I also cut off all the leaves forom the stems but
because they were twisted and decorative i left them, in fact I
sprayed them bronze.
Leaves began to appear on the stems a few weeks later. There's still
a large gap at the base of the stem - no Earthly root system - but
it's covered with green now.

Heigh ho ...

Mary

We've all seen plants growing from cracks in walls. I guess your ivy is
getting nutrients the same way. It was a couple of years before I finally
got the last of mine off the wall.


Of course. But my point was that simply cutting the stem off by its
bootlaces isn't necessarily the answer :-)

Mary




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Mary Fisher wrote:
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Mary Fisher wrote:
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JCYates wrote:
Can anyone help please?
I have masses of ivy that keeps encroaching on my garden. There
used to be some commercial products to kill ivy but I understand
they are no longer available. Does anyone have any suggestions
how I can kill it- or at the very best give it a severe headache to
discourage it? Many thanks

John
Execution/castration!
A pair of shears used with enthusiasm to control, or cut it off at
the base for a permanent solution.

I did that - cut off the base, leaving a couple of inches between
the stump and the stem. I also cut off all the leaves forom the
stems but because they were twisted and decorative i left them, in
fact I sprayed them bronze.
Leaves began to appear on the stems a few weeks later. There's still
a large gap at the base of the stem - no Earthly root system - but
it's covered with green now.

Heigh ho ...

Mary

We've all seen plants growing from cracks in walls. I guess your ivy
is getting nutrients the same way. It was a couple of years before I
finally got the last of mine off the wall.


Of course. But my point was that simply cutting the stem off by its
bootlaces isn't necessarily the answer :-)

Mary


No.........sorry, I didn't make myself clear. That's the castration bit,
then you need to execute..........tear down as much as poss.
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Can anyone help please?
I have masses of ivy that keeps encroaching on my garden. There used to be
some commercial products to kill ivy but I understand they are no longer
available. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can kill it- or at the
very best give it a severe headache to discourage it?

Many thanks

John
This year everything is growing so fast! If you can, cut it right back to the ground, and then cut round the stems so that you sever the roots.

I spray any new tendrils with Rootout or any strong weedkiller.
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Can anyone help please?
I have masses of ivy that keeps encroaching on my garden. There used to be
some commercial products to kill ivy but I understand they are no longer
available. Does anyone have any suggestions how I can kill it- or at the
very best give it a severe headache to discourage it?


I too have an ivy problem and the only thing I've found that works is
blackberry/tree poison. From memory the active ingredient is TRICLOPYR but
anything tough enough to kill a tree would also kill ivy.

You have to plan the murder of ivy like a war though, a single battle isn't
enough. I've been trying to kill a humungeous plot of ivy for years and I
have it on the run but still have a huge lot to get rid of.


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The main thing when poisoning ivy is to get the weedkiller to 'stick'.

You need to beat it with something which will bruise the leaves - a
cat-'o-nine-tails springs to mind...

Then, EC="shhhh!" add some detergent to break down the surface tension
of the liquid weedkiller. /EC

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No.........sorry, I didn't make myself clear. That's the castration bit,
then you need to execute..........tear down as much as poss.


But I wanted the twisted stem!

I do understand that it's getting nutrients and water from somewhere and
don't mind it at all - after I planted it there in the first place.

I only discovered the tortuous truk by cutting off a bit of green here,
another there,oops gone a bit too far in that place, better even it ... a
bit like beard trimming when you end up being bare-faced :-) And decide that
you like it. Trouble is, to keep it (ivy or beard) like that takes
maintenance :-(

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John

Execution/castration!
A pair of shears used with enthusiasm to control, or cut it off at the base
for a permanent solution.



I also have the same thing, it comes in from the gardens at the back
where they dump their rubbish and now have dumped 3 foot higher than my
garden the common boundary (hawthorn trees) now has ivy growing up and
covering the trees but try as I might to cut all the vines that i can
see the *** things never wilt at the top of the trees! They are about 20
foot up so waving a 12 foot pruner becomes a somewhat hazardous process
atop a ladder, especially when the pruner goes through the branch and
the blades have nothing to hang onto

I've tried sbk, chopping hacking, digging away the soil on my side and
am now considering that path deweeder stuff. The ivy seems to laugh as
glysophate!

Before anyone says i ought to leave it blah blah, i do have a lot more
elsewhere but i need to see that the boundary wire is intact so that the
dogs can't get out or annoy the other households.

One of mine used to let herself through and pinch the gloves from a shed
at the back and bring them back before chewing them. i thought they were
mine for some time until i found mine pristine in the shed and then
watched her clambering through the broken wire gaps to trot into the
open shed door (they never closed it)
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I did that - cut off the base, leaving a couple of inches between the stump
and the stem.



I did that and yes the ivy is STILL growing here too

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I too have an ivy problem and the only thing I've found that works is
blackberry/tree poison. From memory the active ingredient is TRICLOPYR
but anything tough enough to kill a tree would also kill ivy.

You have to plan the murder of ivy like a war though, a single battle
isn't enough. I've been trying to kill a humungeous plot of ivy for years
and I have it on the run but still have a huge lot to get rid of.




Problem with ivy - it seems capable of thriving without any roots in the
ground.
Getting your nasty stuff to do its business is thus made more problematical.
The only way in seems to be through the leaves and even then the spread
seems very limited.

A lot of mine has escaped over head high and so far has survived my various
forms of attack.

Wondering where this Triclo stuff can be got and where and how it should
be applied ?

Regards
Pete
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
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I too have an ivy problem and the only thing I've found that works is
blackberry/tree poison. From memory the active ingredient is TRICLOPYR
but anything tough enough to kill a tree would also kill ivy.

You have to plan the murder of ivy like a war though, a single battle
isn't enough. I've been trying to kill a humungeous plot of ivy for
years and I have it on the run but still have a huge lot to get rid of.




Problem with ivy - it seems capable of thriving without any roots in the
ground.
Getting your nasty stuff to do its business is thus made more
problematical.
The only way in seems to be through the leaves and even then the spread
seems very limited.

A lot of mine has escaped over head high and so far has survived my
various forms of attack.

Wondering where this Triclo stuff can be got and where and how it should
be applied ?

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

Come to think of it, we had one which I planted at the corner of the house.
I took it down years later when it was working its way under the roof tiles
despite my giving it an annual haircut. Everything was pulled off the brick
walls and then Spouse dug down and pulled up as much root as he could then
concreted the hole. It hasn't shown any sign of returning yet and that must
be at least three years ago.

Am I tempting fate though ... ?


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Come to think of it, we had one which I planted at the corner of the house.
I took it down years later when it was working its way under the roof tiles
despite my giving it an annual haircut. Everything was pulled off the brick
walls and then Spouse dug down and pulled up as much root as he could then
concreted the hole. It hasn't shown any sign of returning yet and that must
be at least three years ago.


Am I tempting fate though ... ?


Have you checked the cavity?

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