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R D S[_2_] 14-09-2008 07:36 PM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
I thought i'd post this, there are probably many leylandi haters reading,
might as well cheer a few of them up!

I have never let them get out of control, they have never been over about
8-9 feet, but earlier this summer I decided to get them back to 6ft and my
plan was to cut them down to about 5 ft high, and trim them right back.
Naively I thought I would see some fluffy new growth, LOL!

What an effing mess! My best bet I guess is to plant some new ones inbetween
or if anyone has any ideas for a quick growing hedge I am all ears.

Regards,
Rick




Charlie Pridham[_2_] 15-09-2008 09:46 AM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
In article , says...
I thought i'd post this, there are probably many leylandi haters reading,
might as well cheer a few of them up!

I have never let them get out of control, they have never been over about
8-9 feet, but earlier this summer I decided to get them back to 6ft and my
plan was to cut them down to about 5 ft high, and trim them right back.
Naively I thought I would see some fluffy new growth, LOL!

What an effing mess! My best bet I guess is to plant some new ones inbetween
or if anyone has any ideas for a quick growing hedge I am all ears.

Regards,
Rick




Take out the Leylandyi, the sooner done the less the unsightly mess will
be with you, improve the soil in the planting holes with some nice well
rotted manure and buy some yew hedging, get it from a good supplier who
can tell you whether the plants are seed or cutting raised (hedges are
always best if they are of identical clones as the growth rates will be
the same and it will always look even) it will take 3-5 years to form a
good hedge but will last several lifetimes and never be a nuisence and
need cutting only once a year.
Do not attempt to plant between the existing trees - ! tried that! new
plants failed due to the competition and lack of water
I have a leylandi hedge and very much wish I had chosen differently!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Nick Maclaren 15-09-2008 09:52 AM

Ruined my leylandi!
 

In article ,
Charlie Pridham writes:
|
| Take out the Leylandyi, the sooner done the less the unsightly mess will
| be with you, ....

Yes. Our next door neighbour has some, and I wish that he would do
that!

It doesn't have to be yew, of course, though yew is good.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha[_3_] 15-09-2008 10:34 AM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
On 15/9/08 09:46, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article ,
says...
I thought i'd post this, there are probably many leylandi haters reading,
might as well cheer a few of them up!

I have never let them get out of control, they have never been over about
8-9 feet, but earlier this summer I decided to get them back to 6ft and my
plan was to cut them down to about 5 ft high, and trim them right back.
Naively I thought I would see some fluffy new growth, LOL!

What an effing mess! My best bet I guess is to plant some new ones inbetween
or if anyone has any ideas for a quick growing hedge I am all ears.

Regards,
Rick




Take out the Leylandyi, the sooner done the less the unsightly mess will
be with you, improve the soil in the planting holes with some nice well
rotted manure and buy some yew hedging, get it from a good supplier who
can tell you whether the plants are seed or cutting raised (hedges are
always best if they are of identical clones as the growth rates will be
the same and it will always look even) it will take 3-5 years to form a
good hedge but will last several lifetimes and never be a nuisence and
need cutting only once a year.
Do not attempt to plant between the existing trees - ! tried that! new
plants failed due to the competition and lack of water
I have a leylandi hedge and very much wish I had chosen differently!


Totally agree. I took a lot out and was thrilled to be rid of them.
Depending on location, eucalyptus also make a good hedge and beech is
lovely, retaining its leaves if kept below 8' or 9'. The great thing about
yew of course, is that it is a lovely foil for other planting and is very
forgiving if cut into. It does grow back!


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Charlie Pridham[_2_] 15-09-2008 10:52 AM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
In article ,
says...
On 15/9/08 09:46, in article
,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article ,
says...
I thought i'd post this, there are probably many leylandi haters reading,
might as well cheer a few of them up!

I have never let them get out of control, they have never been over about
8-9 feet, but earlier this summer I decided to get them back to 6ft and my
plan was to cut them down to about 5 ft high, and trim them right back.
Naively I thought I would see some fluffy new growth, LOL!

What an effing mess! My best bet I guess is to plant some new ones inbetween
or if anyone has any ideas for a quick growing hedge I am all ears.

Regards,
Rick




Take out the Leylandyi, the sooner done the less the unsightly mess will
be with you, improve the soil in the planting holes with some nice well
rotted manure and buy some yew hedging, get it from a good supplier who
can tell you whether the plants are seed or cutting raised (hedges are
always best if they are of identical clones as the growth rates will be
the same and it will always look even) it will take 3-5 years to form a
good hedge but will last several lifetimes and never be a nuisence and
need cutting only once a year.
Do not attempt to plant between the existing trees - ! tried that! new
plants failed due to the competition and lack of water
I have a leylandi hedge and very much wish I had chosen differently!


Totally agree. I took a lot out and was thrilled to be rid of them.
Depending on location, eucalyptus also make a good hedge and beech is
lovely, retaining its leaves if kept below 8' or 9'. The great thing about
yew of course, is that it is a lovely foil for other planting and is very
forgiving if cut into. It does grow back!



Another thing I see from time to time is a "Fedge" 6' trellis panels with
one of the shiny leaved euonymous woven through (not stiff enough on its
own)this makes a marvelous very narrow evergreen hedge, I seen them only
6" wide
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Sacha[_3_] 15-09-2008 11:07 AM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
On 15/9/08 10:52, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:
snip
Another thing I see from time to time is a "Fedge" 6' trellis panels with
one of the shiny leaved euonymous woven through (not stiff enough on its
own)this makes a marvelous very narrow evergreen hedge, I seen them only
6" wide


Sounds pretty but I've never seen it. The other thing I did mean to say was
not to plant yew in a wet area. We've had to take out a struggling yew
hedge here because the water run off from the field was drowning it.
Matthew has put beech in and it looks a lot happier.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


echinosum 15-09-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Pridham[_2_] (Post 815799)
buy some yew hedging, get it from a good supplier who can tell you whether the plants are seed or cutting raised (hedges are always best if they are of identical clones as the growth rates will be the same and it will always look even) it will take 3-5 years to form a
good hedge but will last several lifetimes and never be a nuisence and
need cutting only once a year.

Yew is dioecious, so if you want the red berries you need females with the occasional male. I don't know how soon you can sex them. The berry (spit the seed out) is the only part of a yew which is edible.

I think Hornbeam looks smarter than beech.

The euc hedges I've seen were not as impermeable a visual screen as leylandii, beech, etc, but maybe density is possible with the right species. are a large number of Eucs you can grow in this country, so investigate them carefully to make sure you get a suitable species. These are the ones taht one specialist nursery, now sadly closed, recommended. http://www.blueram.net/eucalyptus/in...?planttype=hed Notice that he does not recommend gunnii. One way of growing a cheap Eucalyptus hedge is (once it is big enouhg) to peg the leader down so it grows along the ground, and what were branches now become several hedging plants. Probably wouldn't work with the ones mentioned above, I've seen one like this, I think it was done with something like fraxinoides which is a monstrously vigorous Euc. There Buy from a specialist nursery, and plant very small - they will reward you with a lot more vigour if you plant very small, they are really slowed down by planting out when they are of any size. This is a good time of year to get one that has been germinated this year. But could require a lot of pruning in the long run, they can be very, very vigorous.

Derek Turner 16-09-2008 12:16 PM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:36:23 +0100, R D S wrote:


What an effing mess! My best bet I guess is to plant some new ones
inbetween or if anyone has any ideas for a quick growing hedge I am all
ears.

Regards,
Rick


Be thankful for small mercies. Thuja plicata is pretty quick-growing,
smells nice and does survive being hacked into.

The Old OakTree 16-09-2008 02:12 PM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
or if anyone has any ideas for a quick growing hedge I am all
ears.


Why not leave the remains of the leylandii where they are and
grow clematis montana or some other climber through them?



Rusty Hinge 2 16-09-2008 04:02 PM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
The message
from Charlie Pridham contains these words:

Take out the Leylandyi, the sooner done the less the unsightly mess will
be with you, improve the soil in the planting holes with some nice well
rotted manure and buy some yew hedging, get it from a good supplier who
can tell you whether the plants are seed or cutting raised (hedges are
always best if they are of identical clones as the growth rates will be
the same and it will always look even) it will take 3-5 years to form a
good hedge but will last several lifetimes and never be a nuisence and
need cutting only once a year.


*SEVERAL* lifetimes? FVLVO 'several'!

It is believed that the oldest living thing on this planet is the Yew at
Fortingall - possibly five thousand years of age...

Do not attempt to plant between the existing trees - ! tried that! new
plants failed due to the competition and lack of water
I have a leylandi hedge and very much wish I had chosen differently!


Arbut, I read it that he cut it back past the green growth, so the roots
won't be doing any more work, ever.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
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Rusty Hinge 2 16-09-2008 04:05 PM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
The message
from Sacha contains these words:
On 15/9/08 10:52, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:
snip


Another thing I see from time to time is a "Fedge" 6' trellis panels with
one of the shiny leaved euonymous woven through (not stiff enough on its
own)this makes a marvelous very narrow evergreen hedge, I seen them only
6" wide


Sounds pretty but I've never seen it. The other thing I did mean to say was
not to plant yew in a wet area. We've had to take out a struggling yew
hedge here because the water run off from the field was drowning it.
Matthew has put beech in and it looks a lot happier.


Don't plant willow, then - unless you can go like the clappers with the
shears.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
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Rusty Hinge 2 16-09-2008 04:06 PM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
The message
from "The Old OakTree" contains these words:

or if anyone has any ideas for a quick growing hedge I am all
ears.


Why not leave the remains of the leylandii where they are and
grow clematis montana or some other climber through them?


Because they will soon rot off at the roots.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Sacha[_3_] 16-09-2008 05:09 PM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
On 16/9/08 16:05, in article ,
"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:
On 15/9/08 10:52, in article
,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:
snip


Another thing I see from time to time is a "Fedge" 6' trellis panels with
one of the shiny leaved euonymous woven through (not stiff enough on its
own)this makes a marvelous very narrow evergreen hedge, I seen them only
6" wide


Sounds pretty but I've never seen it. The other thing I did mean to say was
not to plant yew in a wet area. We've had to take out a struggling yew
hedge here because the water run off from the field was drowning it.
Matthew has put beech in and it looks a lot happier.


Don't plant willow, then - unless you can go like the clappers with the
shears.


Yes indeed! The 'low' fence of it we have on a wall above a pond has been
cut back three times this year. Lucky there's not more of it!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online)


Stephen Wolstenholme 16-09-2008 05:25 PM

Ruined my leylandi!
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:02:54 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:

It is believed that the oldest living thing on this planet is the Yew at
Fortingall - possibly five thousand years of age...


There's always something that comes along to break age records.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Oldest_living_thing has a few that make the
Yew at Fortingall look like a teenager.

Then there are bacteria and funguses that have been frozen for
thousands of years. They are still alive when thawed out.

Steve


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