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New spiders in UK?
I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was
convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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New spiders in UK?
Well superficially, that article implies that the tube web spider
might be the one to worry about since it is allegedly quite aggressive. In reality it has been around in the south at least for a good century or so and seems to have integrated quite well. There are several in the dry stone walls around my garden and they haven't been a problem. The false widow does give a painful nip, which can become infected or cause an allergic reaction, but it is hardly dangerous unless you are particularly sensitive. I've been bitten by one a couple of times and in comparison to a bee sting it is less painful initially, but more irritating over a longer period. The bite leaves a pair of tiny scars that take a year or two to fade. False widows have been in S. Devon for a number of years and although by no means common, they do appear to be on the increase. Up to 10 years ago, they were quite rare and only occasionally found around. In recent years I'm a bit more wary about pushing foliage aside if I'm wearing short sleeves because there's usually one lurking and a concerted search can often reveal a few. |
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New spiders in UK?
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Sacha wrote: I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm The BBC's Web pages have been dumbing themselves down as fast as they can for some time. They didn't publish a comment of mine on the matter, when I pointed out some of the actual facts. Admittedly, I did say that the question "Have you got any other alien plants in your garden?" showed cluelessness :=) But, given the competence of this group, few will deny the accuracy of my statement. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:13:37 +0100, Sacha
wrote: I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm A friend of mine was bitten on his leg by a spider a few years ago. He finished up in hospital. The "experts" said it was a common immune reaction. Steve |
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"Sacha" wrote ... I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm Living, as I do, reasonably close to Heathrow I'm always a bit careful if I come across any spider I don't recognise, like the totally lime green one that proceeded to hang down in front of my eyes whilst driving the 90. Not been able to ID it yet. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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On 15/10/08 08:16, in article
, "Dave Poole" wrote: Well superficially, that article implies that the tube web spider might be the one to worry about since it is allegedly quite aggressive. In reality it has been around in the south at least for a good century or so and seems to have integrated quite well. There are several in the dry stone walls around my garden and they haven't been a problem. The false widow does give a painful nip, which can become infected or cause an allergic reaction, but it is hardly dangerous unless you are particularly sensitive. I've been bitten by one a couple of times and in comparison to a bee sting it is less painful initially, but more irritating over a longer period. The bite leaves a pair of tiny scars that take a year or two to fade. False widows have been in S. Devon for a number of years and although by no means common, they do appear to be on the increase. Up to 10 years ago, they were quite rare and only occasionally found around. In recent years I'm a bit more wary about pushing foliage aside if I'm wearing short sleeves because there's usually one lurking and a concerted search can often reveal a few. Oh great - something else to worry about! ;-) I do admit that there are certain areas of the glasshouses that I won't weed in case something leaps out at me! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:13:37 +0100, Sacha
wrote: I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm A friend who runs a shop nearby was mooching in the covered area at the back (loads of stuff stored there and a bit dark) - she was bitten by a spider and got some serious flu and cold sore type things on her lips even though at 70 she's never had them before. -- http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk |
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On Oct 15, 10:30 am, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Sacha" wrote ...I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm Living, as I do, reasonably close to Heathrow I'm always a bit careful if I come across any spider I don't recognise, like the totally lime green one that proceeded to hang down in front of my eyes whilst driving the 90. Not been able to ID it yet. -- Regards Bob Hobden Araneus cucurbitinus are common in trees and hedges and are bright green http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/photos/img2213.htm They are the size of a small garden (orb web spinning) spider and are likely to try to absail their way out of trouble if stuck. |
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"Des Higgins" wrote... after"Bob Hobden" wittered on after: "Sacha" wrote ... I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm Living, as I do, reasonably close to Heathrow I'm always a bit careful if I come across any spider I don't recognise, like the totally lime green one that proceeded to hang down in front of my eyes whilst driving the 90. Not been able to ID it yet. Araneus cucurbitinus are common in trees and hedges and are bright green http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/photos/img2213.htm They are the size of a small garden (orb web spinning) spider and are likely to try to absail their way out of trouble if stuck. I had seen that one but the one that hung down in front of my eyes was all the colour of that ones back, it was lime green all over, legs and all. Also seemed to be longer legged and less chunky. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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On Oct 15, 6:22*pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Des Higgins" *wrote... after"Bob Hobden" wittered on after: "Sacha" *wrote ... I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. * He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm Living, as I do, reasonably close to Heathrow I'm always a bit careful if I come across any spider I don't recognise, like the totally lime green one that proceeded to hang down in front of my eyes whilst driving the 90. Not been able to ID it yet. Araneus cucurbitinus are common in trees and hedges and are bright green http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/photos/img2213.htm They are the size of a small garden (orb web spinning) spider and are likely to try to absail their way out of trouble if stuck. I had seen that one but the one that hung down in front of my eyes was all the colour of that ones back, it was lime green all over, legs and all. Also seemed to be longer legged and less chunky. -- Regards Bob Hobden- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ok, how about this one? They are widespread in Britain. usually on low vegetation http://www.oeko-msc.de/Micrommata-virescens.JPG |
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"Des Higgins" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: Living, as I do, reasonably close to Heathrow I'm always a bit careful if I come across any spider I don't recognise, like the totally lime green one that proceeded to hang down in front of my eyes whilst driving the 90. Not been able to ID it yet. Araneus cucurbitinus are common in trees and hedges and are bright green http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/photos/img2213.htm They are the size of a small garden (orb web spinning) spider and are likely to try to absail their way out of trouble if stuck. I had seen that one but the one that hung down in front of my eyes was all the colour of that ones back, it was lime green all over, legs and all. Also seemed to be longer legged and less chunky. ok, how about this one? They are widespread in Britain. usually on low vegetation http://www.oeko-msc.de/Micrommata-virescens.JPG That looks much more like it, although still a bit chunky, but would it hang down on a thread? -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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On 15/10/08 11:44, in article ,
"mogga" wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:13:37 +0100, Sacha wrote: I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm A friend who runs a shop nearby was mooching in the covered area at the back (loads of stuff stored there and a bit dark) - she was bitten by a spider and got some serious flu and cold sore type things on her lips even though at 70 she's never had them before. Yes - this is the sort of thing that worried me re my husband. He had a large swelling which went totally numb - just as if he'd been to the dentist and had an injection. It was sort of white in the middle but after taking some Piriton he found that the swelling reduced considerably. He didn't feel ill, the bite didn't itch. But it shocked and surprised us all at the speed of his mouth's reaction and a mouth is worryingly close to an oesophagus, in my view. After the swelling reduced I looked at the inside of his lip and there is no question that there were two bites, two marks there, not one 'injection' from e.g. A mosquito. OTOH, one of my children was bitten on the lip by a mozzie a week or two ago and ended up with a troutpout you would not believe. I've seen the photo. The bottom lip was 5 times the normal size. Something strange is going on with this stuff. I and my children tend to react a lot to mosquito bites but this as beyond all experience. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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New spiders in UK?
On Oct 15, 11:06 pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Des Higgins" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: Living, as I do, reasonably close to Heathrow I'm always a bit careful if I come across any spider I don't recognise, like the totally lime green one that proceeded to hang down in front of my eyes whilst driving the 90. Not been able to ID it yet. Araneus cucurbitinus are common in trees and hedges and are bright green http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/photos/img2213.htm They are the size of a small garden (orb web spinning) spider and are likely to try to absail their way out of trouble if stuck. I had seen that one but the one that hung down in front of my eyes was all the colour of that ones back, it was lime green all over, legs and all. Also seemed to be longer legged and less chunky. ok, how about this one? They are widespread in Britain. usually on low vegetationhttp://www.oeko-msc.de/Micrommata-virescens.JPG That looks much more like it, although still a bit chunky, but would it hang down on a thread? very likely given where it lives (have to guess here but: the only ones that maybe will not hang by a thread are strictly ground dwelling ones like wolf spiders). Forgot top give the name Micrommata virescens there are tons and tons of pics and web pages -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:05:42 +0100, Sacha
wrote: On 15/10/08 11:44, in article , "mogga" wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:13:37 +0100, Sacha wrote: I told someone today about Ray being bitten on the lip and that I was convinced it was a spider what dunnit. He sent me the following which I find rather alarming! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7573530.stm A friend who runs a shop nearby was mooching in the covered area at the back (loads of stuff stored there and a bit dark) - she was bitten by a spider and got some serious flu and cold sore type things on her lips even though at 70 she's never had them before. Yes - this is the sort of thing that worried me re my husband. He had a large swelling which went totally numb - just as if he'd been to the dentist and had an injection. It was sort of white in the middle but after taking some Piriton he found that the swelling reduced considerably. He didn't feel ill, the bite didn't itch. But it shocked and surprised us all at the speed of his mouth's reaction and a mouth is worryingly close to an oesophagus, in my view. After the swelling reduced I looked at the inside of his lip and there is no question that there were two bites, two marks there, not one 'injection' from e.g. A mosquito. OTOH, one of my children was bitten on the lip by a mozzie a week or two ago and ended up with a troutpout you would not believe. I've seen the photo. The bottom lip was 5 times the normal size. Something strange is going on with this stuff. I and my children tend to react a lot to mosquito bites but this as beyond all experience. It is a bit scary - we do need a seriously cold winter I think just to wipe them out. -- http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk |
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