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hedge advice needed please
We're about to plant a hedge, preferable evergreen. we want something
reasonably easy to maintain but which will not take too long to look "hedge like". we are on quite heavy clay and this will be in a south facing garden with trees so not too sunny. So far I've come up with holly. Does this sound like a good choice? All our other hedges are hornbeam but they are a bit too see through in the winter and the hedge will divide teh driveway from teh garden so we want it to be (a) dense so that we cannot see the cars adn (b) reasonably child proof. How quickly will holly bush out into a hedge? (We can have a temporary fence to start with next to it.) Also I've seen plants advertised in teh back of GW. In particular Hopes Grove nurseries - has anyone used these? We don't know whether to go mail order or try to find a garden centre selling plants. We'd also appreciate any advice re size to buy. This lot sell 4-5 foot in pots. would that establish okay or would we be better off with smaller ones? Any advice appreciated :). thanks in advance, -- Hayley gardening on clay in Somerset |
hedge advice needed please
"catkin" wrote in message
... Any advice appreciated :). thanks in advance, you don't say how long a hedge you are looking for, i take it a goodly number? .. Better than a garden centre, find a local nursery or trade supplier who will be haapy to deal with you direct - far cheaper and bettter qaulaity than plans that hve been sitting in the GC with inadeqaute TLC. Retail mark up is 100% on the pre vat ex nursery price, os there is a big saving to be made if you take the time to seasch out the right supplier. Remember the "wholesale only" or "trade only" signs only mean "Don't come in for singles!" if your requirement is for wholesale qauntities they will happily deal. if they are exceptionally prissy about trade only, spek to a local gardener and do a "supply only" deal with him and split the mark up in an agreeable way. WRT plant size. 4-5ft stock in a deeply manured tench with a leaky pipe watering system ii waht you want. Small plants take too long to fill out. But do make sure you know how bushy the stock is you are buying - a 4-5ft single stem is verdifferent from a 4-5ft bushy plant! pk |
hedge advice needed please
"catkin" wrote We're about to plant a hedge, preferable evergreen. we want something reasonably easy to maintain but which will not take too long to look "hedge like". we are on quite heavy clay and this will be in a south facing garden with trees so not too sunny. So far I've come up with holly. Does this sound like a good choice? All our other hedges are hornbeam but they are a bit too see through in the winter and the hedge will divide teh driveway from teh garden so we want it to be (a) dense so that we cannot see the cars adn (b) reasonably child proof. How quickly will holly bush out into a hedge? (We can have a temporary fence to start with next to it.) Also I've seen plants advertised in teh back of GW. In particular Hopes Grove nurseries - has anyone used these? We don't know whether to go mail order or try to find a garden centre selling plants. We'd also appreciate any advice re size to buy. This lot sell 4-5 foot in pots. would that establish okay or would we be better off with smaller ones? Any advice appreciated :). thanks in advance, -- Hayley gardening on clay in Somerset Hi Hayley I planted a mixed shrub hedge bordering our front boundary. The location is yorkshire also onto clay. Added plenty of compost local to the planting site. Used the following stock: Photinia, Escallonia, Ceanothus, Catoneaster and Eleagnus. Gives a nice mixture of shades of green, flowers, berries and scents - all evergreen. The result seems to be appreciated by the more discerning neighbours. HTH Phil |
Why does everyone always want instant results??
Holly will take several years. Beech grows quite quickly and, altho not evergreen, the brown leaves stay on throughout the winter until the new growth begins in spring. I had a very thick one on clay in a previous garden. What about a mixed native hedge? There is an offer somewhere in this month's GW for whips (barerooted) for less than 40 quid for 5 metres. Other possibles are berberis (but beware if you have little kids) and various rosas (again barerooted would be by far the cheapest) |
hedge advice needed please
PK wrote:
"catkin" wrote in message ... Any advice appreciated :). thanks in advance, you don't say how long a hedge you are looking for, i take it a goodly number? . Better than a garden centre, find a local nursery or trade supplier who will be haapy to deal with you direct - far cheaper and bettter qaulaity than plans that hve been sitting in the GC with inadeqaute TLC. Retail mark up is 100% on the pre vat ex nursery price, os there is a big saving to be made if you take the time to seasch out the right supplier. And wait a while for the bare root stock to come in, much cheaper than potted / container grown. |
hedge advice needed please
"Vipera berus" wrote in message
... PK wrote: "catkin" wrote in message ... Any advice appreciated :). thanks in advance, you don't say how long a hedge you are looking for, i take it a goodly number? . Better than a garden centre, find a local nursery or trade supplier who will be haapy to deal with you direct - far cheaper and bettter qaulaity than plans that hve been sitting in the GC with inadeqaute TLC. Retail mark up is 100% on the pre vat ex nursery price, os there is a big saving to be made if you take the time to seasch out the right supplier. And wait a while for the bare root stock to come in, much cheaper than potted / container grown. ISTBCB, bare root holly is not nomally availble pk |
hedge advice needed please
PK wrote:
. Better than a garden centre, find a local nursery or trade supplier who will be haapy to deal with you direct - far cheaper and bettter qaulaity than plans that hve been sitting in the GC with inadeqaute TLC. Retail mark up is 100% on the pre vat ex nursery price, os there is a big saving to be made if you take the time to seasch out the right supplier. And wait a while for the bare root stock to come in, much cheaper than potted / container grown. ISTBCB, bare root holly is not nomally availble pk http://shop.btcv.org.uk/shop/level3/79/stock/671 Vb |
hedge advice needed please
"Vipera berus" wrote in message
... PK wrote: . Better than a garden centre, find a local nursery or trade supplier who will be haapy to deal with you direct - far cheaper and bettter qaulaity than plans that hve been sitting in the GC with inadeqaute TLC. Retail mark up is 100% on the pre vat ex nursery price, os there is a big saving to be made if you take the time to seasch out the right supplier. And wait a while for the bare root stock to come in, much cheaper than potted / container grown. ISTBCB, bare root holly is not nomally availble pk http://shop.btcv.org.uk/shop/level3/79/stock/671 Vb Ah, very small. I doubt you will find anything much larger Holly in larger forms is best bought container grown - NOT containerized - and definitely not bare rooted. or from a good nursery who have treated the plant correctly in ground over several years to make rootballing possible these people are good: http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...yB1Qodmiu2z A pk |
hedge advice needed please
Janet Conroy wrote:
Why does everyone always want instant results?? Holly will take several years. Beech grows quite quickly and, altho not evergreen, the brown leaves stay on throughout the winter until the new growth begins in spring. I had a very thick one on clay in a previous garden. What about a mixed native hedge? There is an offer somewhere in this month's GW for whips (barerooted) for less than 40 quid for 5 metres. Other possibles are berberis (but beware if you have little kids) and various rosas (again barerooted would be by far the cheapest) Nice mixtures here... http://www.hedge-plants.co.uk/bareroot.html#bareroot |
hedge advice needed please
Why does everyone always want instant results??
I don't usually - its just that I want teh children to be able to play out teh front so need to enclose teh garden. I will fence it but want a hedge long term and ideally want somethign to at least disguise the ugly fence (and mak eit look less like fun to climb) as soon as poss. What about a mixed native hedge? we've got one out teh back - it is great but real hassle as we can't get teh brambles out etc. and the kids keep getting caught on them. also it is about 6 fot wide and I need somethign that i can keep reasonably think out the front. Other possible are berberis (but beware if you have little kids) and various rosas (again barerooted would be by far the cheapest) What do these look like in teh winter? I seen really great looking hedge in France down the centres of the payages - I know that you'd get goo dhips but do all teh leaves drop off? Do they need pruning? -- Hayley gardening on clay in Somerset |
hedge advice needed please
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says... Why does everyone always want instant results?? I don't usually - its just that I want teh children to be able to play out teh front so need to enclose teh garden. I will fence it but want a hedge long term and ideally want somethign to at least disguise the ugly fence (and mak eit look less like fun to climb) as soon as poss. What about a mixed native hedge? we've got one out teh back - it is great but real hassle as we can't get teh brambles out etc. and the kids keep getting caught on them. also it is about 6 fot wide and I need somethign that i can keep reasonably think out the front. Other possible are berberis (but beware if you have little kids) and various rosas (again barerooted would be by far the cheapest) What do these look like in teh winter? I seen really great looking hedge in France down the centres of the payages - I know that you'd get goo dhips but do all teh leaves drop off? Do they need pruning? Holly is a good choice, but I would go the extra mile and look for a non prickly sort unless securety is an issue as it is literally a pain to clear up the hedge cuttings otherwise! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
hedge advice needed please
"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
T... Holly is a good choice, but I would go the extra mile and look for a non prickly sort unless securety is an issue as it is literally a pain to clear up the hedge cuttings otherwise! JC van Tol is prickle free but possible not the best/bushiest for for hedging.. pk |
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hedge advice needed please
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Janet Conroy wrote: The hedges down the payages in France are mostly rosas, but they ARE prickly. Berberis is evergreen and gives small flowers in Summer and orange/red or yellow berries in winter, which birds love. But again, it is very spiky. Berberis species often have black fruit, and vary between the cuddly and fiendish. B. vulgaris has needles over 1" long, but some are actually thornless. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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