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In article a27054f0-f0cd-4e2c-9593-
, says... How long should you leave soot before spreading on the garden. Good question! all the books say "untill weathered" well I feel well weathered after about 30 mins!! I would say a winter would do the job but maybe someone actually knows. -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 9/1/09 16:24, in article , "Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article a27054f0-f0cd-4e2c-9593- , says... How long should you leave soot before spreading on the garden. Good question! all the books say "untill weathered" well I feel well weathered after about 30 mins!! I would say a winter would do the job but maybe someone actually knows. It's hardly scientific but my grandfather used to chuck it onto the garden straight from the chimney - coal fire, IIRC. -- There's a body of opinion that holds that soot doesn't do anything for the garden, and that chimney sweeps started, and perpetuate the myth to save themselves the disposal problem. "Shall I chuck the soot on yer garden missis, do it the world of good it will" Steve |
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On 9/1/09 22:32, in article , "shazzbat"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 9/1/09 16:24, in article , "Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article a27054f0-f0cd-4e2c-9593- , says... How long should you leave soot before spreading on the garden. Good question! all the books say "untill weathered" well I feel well weathered after about 30 mins!! I would say a winter would do the job but maybe someone actually knows. It's hardly scientific but my grandfather used to chuck it onto the garden straight from the chimney - coal fire, IIRC. -- There's a body of opinion that holds that soot doesn't do anything for the garden, and that chimney sweeps started, and perpetuate the myth to save themselves the disposal problem. "Shall I chuck the soot on yer garden missis, do it the world of good it will" Steve I *think* but am not sure at all, that Grandpa thought it kept slugs at bay. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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In message , shazzbat
writes There's a body of opinion that holds that soot doesn't do anything for the garden, and that chimney sweeps started, and perpetuate the myth to save themselves the disposal problem. "Shall I chuck the soot on yer garden missis, do it the world of good it will" Steve Our chimney sweep offered to sell it to us! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:32:21 +0000, shazzbat wrote:
There's a body of opinion that holds that soot doesn't do anything for the garden, and that chimney sweeps started, and perpetuate the myth to save themselves the disposal problem. What does, inarguably, do is make the soil darker in colour and therefore quicker to warm up in spring. |
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"Gordon H" wrote in message ... In message , shazzbat writes There's a body of opinion that holds that soot doesn't do anything for the garden, and that chimney sweeps started, and perpetuate the myth to save themselves the disposal problem. "Shall I chuck the soot on yer garden missis, do it the world of good it will" Steve Our chimney sweep offered to sell it to us! Did you buy it? I assume not. And what's the going rate for a bag of soot? Steve |
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On 11 Jan, 00:41, "shazzbat"
wrote: And what's the going rate for a bag of soot? Duno! Mine's free and come out the chimney :o) As with many things in gardening, over the years 'potions' get mixed up and we end up with various contradictions and misconceptions. Soot wasn't used by itself, but with other ingredients such as sawdust, prickly barley awns and ashes, making lines of it around fruit bushes and seedbeds to keep slimy molluscs at bay. Other concoction of soot, soap, dung, ammonia, lime and salt was used as pesticides. Another imported from the west indies and used for century and brought to england in the late 19th century consisted of washes made from infusions of bitter leaves, urine, alum root, vinegar and soot, used as pesticide too. The addition of soft soap would smother aphids and mealy bugs. Irritant powders were made from lime, soot, sulphur and tobacco dust to combat slugs and caterpillars. Disinfectant plasters based on cow dung, mud, ashes and lime were painted on tree wounds and grafts ... etc. These remedies worked, especially when based on soft soap, which spreads, lime combined with sulphur (the basis of lime sulphur) and tobacco (which containes nicotine) - but it was a matter of hit and miss until the real diagnosis of mildew or leaf curl were accurately diagnosed. Over the years ingredients have been missed from these concoctions - soot alone is toxic as it is! I have applied it on my path to compact it, when I have remembered to bring a bag of it - but in general I never use it. ps. I can't find your address Steve, to send you the seeds - I have emailed you but email bounced. Do email me with your address at helene at urbed dot coop when you have a moment. |
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In message , shazzbat
writes "Gordon H" wrote in message ... In message , shazzbat "Shall I chuck the soot on yer garden missis, do it the world of good it will" Steve Our chimney sweep offered to sell it to us! Did you buy it? I assume not. You are correct! And what's the going rate for a bag of soot? Steve I don't think I even asked, it was many years ago, but I must get the chimney swept again, as I sometimes have an open fire with logs in winter. The last time it was swept was by a wood pigeon which dropped down the chimney and dislodged quiet a lot of soot. I managed to reach up and grab its legs, threw an old towel round it and dropped it outside on the lawn. I moved towards it to check it over, and it took off almost vertically. Then I went in and cleaned up the mess in the fireplace. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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In message , Derek Turner
writes On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:32:21 +0000, shazzbat wrote: There's a body of opinion that holds that soot doesn't do anything for the garden, and that chimney sweeps started, and perpetuate the myth to save themselves the disposal problem. What does, inarguably, do is make the soil darker in colour and therefore quicker to warm up in spring. I would expect it to improve the texture of the heavy, clay soil in this area. BICBW. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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"Gordon H" wrote in message ... The last time it was swept was by a wood pigeon which dropped down the chimney and dislodged quiet a lot of soot. I managed to reach up and grab its legs, threw an old towel round it and dropped it outside on the lawn. Been there, done that, accompanied by a *very* interested cat. I moved towards it to check it over, and it took off almost vertically. Don't they just! And the amount of feathers they shed in the process is amazing. My Dad used to dig soot into our garden in London back in the 50s/60s. Don't know why or if it did anything, but he got good crops and lots of flowers each year. -- Kathy It's pointless to try and discuss ethics with a spider. |
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wrote in message ... On 11 Jan, 00:41, "shazzbat" wrote: And what's the going rate for a bag of soot? Duno! Mine's free and come out the chimney :o) As with many things in gardening, over the years 'potions' get mixed up and we end up with various contradictions and misconceptions. Soot wasn't used by itself, but with other ingredients such as sawdust, prickly barley awns and ashes, making lines of it around fruit bushes and seedbeds to keep slimy molluscs at bay. Other concoction of soot, soap, dung, ammonia, lime and salt was used as pesticides. Another imported from the west indies and used for century and brought to england in the late 19th century consisted of washes made from infusions of bitter leaves, urine, alum root, vinegar and soot, used as pesticide too. The addition of soft soap would smother aphids and mealy bugs. Irritant powders were made from lime, soot, sulphur and tobacco dust to combat slugs and caterpillars. Disinfectant plasters based on cow dung, mud, ashes and lime were painted on tree wounds and grafts ... etc. These remedies worked, especially when based on soft soap, which spreads, lime combined with sulphur (the basis of lime sulphur) and tobacco (which containes nicotine) - but it was a matter of hit and miss until the real diagnosis of mildew or leaf curl were accurately diagnosed. Over the years ingredients have been missed from these concoctions - soot alone is toxic as it is! I have applied it on my path to compact it, when I have remembered to bring a bag of it - but in general I never use it. ps. I can't find your address Steve, to send you the seeds - I have emailed you but email bounced. Do email me with your address at helene at urbed dot coop when you have a moment. Ok, done that now. Steve |
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On 16 Jan, 15:12, "shazzbat"
wrote: Ok, done that now. Steve - got nothing. Can you try again, helene at urbed dot com (replace coop with com). Looks like I've got some gremlins in the system :o) |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:32:21 -0000, "shazzbat" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message . .. On 9/1/09 16:24, in article , "Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article a27054f0-f0cd-4e2c-9593- , says... How long should you leave soot before spreading on the garden. Good question! all the books say "untill weathered" well I feel well weathered after about 30 mins!! I would say a winter would do the job but maybe someone actually knows. It's hardly scientific but my grandfather used to chuck it onto the garden straight from the chimney - coal fire, IIRC. -- There's a body of opinion that holds that soot doesn't do anything for the garden, and that chimney sweeps started, and perpetuate the myth to save themselves the disposal problem. "Shall I chuck the soot on yer garden missis, do it the world of good it will" It's banned for organic vegetables. Why? |
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