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Jim S 26-01-2009 12:24 PM

Carrot fly
 
What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.
I used to use spring onion thinnings left around to mask the smell, but my
friend says that does not work for him.
I have suggested inter-cropping with onion and not sowing so close that
carrot thinning is unnecessary.
I have heard tales of low walls around (wood or fabric) as CF fly very low.
Howver he has bee told to use 12" raised beds for the same reason.
This seems excessive and doesn't the wind carry the flies?

--
Jim S

Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk

Mel[_11_] 26-01-2009 02:14 PM

Carrot fly
 
"Jim S" wrote
What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.
I used to use spring onion thinnings left around to mask the smell, but my
friend says that does not work for him.
I have suggested inter-cropping with onion and not sowing so close that
carrot thinning is unnecessary.
I have heard tales of low walls around (wood or fabric) as CF fly very
low.


Hi, Jim. I've tried the above methods with no success. Last year I bought a
cheap, plastic coldframe/greenhouse thing from Lidl, cost about £12-14 -
it's green plastic with a mesh "window" and is quite large. Not rigid
plastic. Worked a treat, so I've bought another one (from The Range) to use
on my parsnips.

I've also bought a sheet of that enviromesh stuff, but I'll probably use
that on brassicas.

Regards.




[email protected] 26-01-2009 02:46 PM

Carrot fly
 
On Jan 26, 12:24*pm, Jim S wrote:
What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.
I used to use spring onion thinnings left around to mask the smell, but my
friend says that does not work for him.
I have suggested inter-cropping with onion and not sowing so close that
carrot thinning is unnecessary.
I have heard tales of low walls around (wood or fabric) as CF fly very low.
Howver he has bee told to use 12" raised beds for the same reason.
This seems excessive and doesn't the wind carry the flies?

--
Jim S

* * * Tyneside UK
* *www.jimscott.co.uk


Enviromesh is now a widely used product for the control of carrot
fly.

http://horticulture.taylorschoice.co...p?s=enviromesh

Rusty_Hinge[_2_] 26-01-2009 02:54 PM

Carrot fly
 
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from Jim S contains these words:

What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.
I used to use spring onion thinnings left around to mask the smell, but my
friend says that does not work for him.
I have suggested inter-cropping with onion and not sowing so close that
carrot thinning is unnecessary.
I have heard tales of low walls around (wood or fabric) as CF fly very low.
Howver he has bee told to use 12" raised beds for the same reason.
This seems excessive and doesn't the wind carry the flies?


Grow them above knee height in containers. Carrot fly fly at RAF zero
altitude. /RAF

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Stewart Robert Hinsley 26-01-2009 06:27 PM

Carrot fly
 
In message ,
Rusty_Hinge writes
The message 0
from Jim S contains these words:

What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.
I used to use spring onion thinnings left around to mask the smell, but my
friend says that does not work for him.
I have suggested inter-cropping with onion and not sowing so close that
carrot thinning is unnecessary.
I have heard tales of low walls around (wood or fabric) as CF fly very low.
Howver he has bee told to use 12" raised beds for the same reason.
This seems excessive and doesn't the wind carry the flies?


Grow them above knee height in containers. Carrot fly fly at RAF zero
altitude. /RAF

So people say, but down on the allotment various people have tried
growing carrots in raised beds, or surrounded by low walls, to exclude
carrot flies, without success.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

p. pleater 26-01-2009 06:53 PM

Carrot fly
 

"Mel" wrote in message
...
"Jim S" wrote
What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.


I've also bought a sheet of that enviromesh stuff, but I'll probably
use that on brassicas.


I too have been thinking about investing in some Enviromesh for my
sprouts to keep Cabbage Moths and Small Cabbage Whites off.
Is it soft and "drape-able" like say curtain netting, or is it more
stiffish (if that's a word).

pp.



Andy 27-01-2009 02:03 AM

Carrot fly
 

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message , Rusty_Hinge
writes
The message 0
from Jim S contains these words:

What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.
I used to use spring onion thinnings left around to mask the smell, but
my
friend says that does not work for him.
I have suggested inter-cropping with onion and not sowing so close that
carrot thinning is unnecessary.
I have heard tales of low walls around (wood or fabric) as CF fly very
low.
Howver he has bee told to use 12" raised beds for the same reason.
This seems excessive and doesn't the wind carry the flies?


Grow them above knee height in containers. Carrot fly fly at RAF zero
altitude. /RAF

So people say, but down on the allotment various people have tried growing
carrots in raised beds, or surrounded by low walls, to exclude carrot
flies, without success.


Try earthing your carrots up as if they were spuds.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley




Steve Harris 27-01-2009 11:21 AM

Carrot fly
 
I don't grow carrots much but have had no problems. This could be because
my urban garden is almost completely surrounded by walls and fences.

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/

Broadback 27-01-2009 12:35 PM

Carrot fly
 
p. pleater wrote:
"Mel" wrote in message
...
"Jim S" wrote
What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.


I've also bought a sheet of that enviromesh stuff, but I'll probably
use that on brassicas.


I too have been thinking about investing in some Enviromesh for my
sprouts to keep Cabbage Moths and Small Cabbage Whites off.
Is it soft and "drape-able" like say curtain netting, or is it more
stiffish (if that's a word).

pp.


Mine is stiffish. I put water pipe and electric ducting made into a U
then place the mesh over that.

Gordon H[_3_] 27-01-2009 04:36 PM

Carrot fly
 
In message , Jim S
writes
What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.
I used to use spring onion thinnings left around to mask the smell, but my
friend says that does not work for him.
I have suggested inter-cropping with onion and not sowing so close that
carrot thinning is unnecessary.
I have heard tales of low walls around (wood or fabric) as CF fly very low.
Howver he has bee told to use 12" raised beds for the same reason.
This seems excessive and doesn't the wind carry the flies?

I chickened out and grew a late variety. Never saw any carrot fly
damage, but found out the hard way about using stone-free soil.
--
Gordon H
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Mel[_11_] 27-01-2009 05:15 PM

Carrot fly
 
"p. pleater" wrote

I too have been thinking about investing in some Enviromesh for my sprouts
to keep Cabbage Moths and Small Cabbage Whites off.
Is it soft and "drape-able" like say curtain netting, or is it more
stiffish (if that's a word).


Yes, it's drapeable. I've just looked at the pack and it's called Haxnicks
EcoGreen (they have a website). I bought it from a garden centre for about
£15. It's certainly not cheap, but apparently it lasts many years (unless
it blows away or gets nicked).




Rusty_Hinge[_2_] 27-01-2009 08:20 PM

Carrot fly
 
The message
from "Mel" contains these words:
"p. pleater" wrote

I too have been thinking about investing in some Enviromesh for my
sprouts
to keep Cabbage Moths and Small Cabbage Whites off.
Is it soft and "drape-able" like say curtain netting, or is it more
stiffish (if that's a word).


Yes, it's drapeable. I've just looked at the pack and it's called Haxnicks
EcoGreen (they have a website). I bought it from a garden centre for about
£15. It's certainly not cheap, but apparently it lasts many years (unless
it blows away or gets nicked).


By Hax, no doubt.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Gopher 27-01-2009 09:16 PM

Carrot fly
 
In message , Andy
writes

"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote in message
...
In message , Rusty_Hinge
writes
The message 0
from Jim S contains these words:

What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.
I used to use spring onion thinnings left around to mask the smell, but
my
friend says that does not work for him.
I have suggested inter-cropping with onion and not sowing so close that
carrot thinning is unnecessary.
I have heard tales of low walls around (wood or fabric) as CF fly very
low.
Howver he has bee told to use 12" raised beds for the same reason.
This seems excessive and doesn't the wind carry the flies?

Grow them above knee height in containers. Carrot fly fly at RAF zero
altitude. /RAF

So people say, but down on the allotment various people have tried growing
carrots in raised beds, or surrounded by low walls, to exclude carrot
flies, without success.


Try earthing your carrots up as if they were spuds.


Interesting. Have you experience of this proving successful?

--
Gopher .... I know my place!

Pam Moore[_2_] 28-01-2009 12:19 AM

Carrot fly
 
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:36:36 +0000, Gordon H
wrote:

In message , Jim S
writes
What's the current 'green' way of controlling carrot fly.


Grow them under a fleece cover and keep it on until you harvest.


Pam in Bristol

Pam Moore[_2_] 28-01-2009 12:21 AM

Carrot fly
 
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:16:30 +0000, Gopher wrote:

Try earthing your carrots up as if they were spuds.

Interesting. Have you experience of this proving successful?


This idea was featured on an allotment prog 2 or 3 years ago. The guy
had a wonderfully productive allotment with lots of unusual ideas. He
earthed them up when the leaves were 3 or 4 inches high, if my memory
is correct.


Pam in Bristol


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