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moghouse 26-01-2009 01:22 PM

Hedgehog predator?
 
This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 26-01-2009 02:39 PM

Hedgehog predator?
 
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says...
This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?

Badger,
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Rusty_Hinge[_2_] 26-01-2009 02:53 PM

Hedgehog predator?
 
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This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?


Fox.

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Hedgeman 26-01-2009 04:37 PM

[quote='Charlie Pridham[_2_];828313']In article 9d17783a-dd8d-4cee-872c-
,
says...
This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?

If the hedgehog was "turned inside out" it was definitely a badger. You should also be able to see the claw marks in the holes in the lawn as well.

moghouse 26-01-2009 05:07 PM

Hedgehog predator?
 
On Jan 26, 2:53*pm, Rusty_Hinge
wrote:
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This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?


Fox.


It looked like too clean a job for a fox to me. My cats usually keep
them away. What was the purpose of the scrape? Would that indicate
badger rather than fox or vice versa?

Christina Websell 26-01-2009 11:14 PM

Hedgehog predator?
 

"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
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This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?


Fox.


No, badger.





Sacha[_3_] 27-01-2009 12:21 AM

Hedgehog predator?
 
On 26/1/09 14:53, in article
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This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?


Fox.


Badger.
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Sacha
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Rusty_Hinge[_2_] 27-01-2009 12:38 AM

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This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?


Fox.


No, badger.


Scrape? Obviously a rabbit. Wererabbit?

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moghouse 27-01-2009 10:31 AM

Hedgehog predator?
 
On Jan 27, 12:38*am, Rusty_Hinge
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Fox.

No, badger.


Scrape? Obviously a rabbit. Wererabbit?


Yes, I suppose I should have asked Grommit in the first place!

Seriously though despite what some bigots say, thanks to my two cats I
do not suffer from rats, rabbits or moles despite the proximity of my
garden to a wide expanse of meadow/ marshland. But squirrels and wood
pigeons that is something else!

moghouse 27-01-2009 02:12 PM

Hedgehog predator?
 
On Jan 27, 12:09*pm, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:31:25 -0800 (PST), moghouse
wrote:

On Jan 27, 12:38*am, Rusty_Hinge
wrote:


Fox.
No, badger.


Scrape? Obviously a rabbit. Wererabbit?


Yes, I suppose I should have asked Grommit in the first place!


Seriously though despite what some bigots say, thanks to my two cats I
do not suffer from rats, rabbits or moles despite the proximity of my
garden to a wide expanse of meadow/ marshland. But squirrels and wood
pigeons that is something else!


There was a wood pigeon in our garden yesterday that was so big that it's body
had insufficient ground clearance. At first I thought it walked in an odd way
because it had a broken leg.


Don't tell us you tried to clog it to death!

robert 27-01-2009 02:17 PM

Hedgehog predator?
 
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moghouse writes
On Jan 26, 2:53*pm, Rusty_Hinge
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This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?


Fox.


It looked like too clean a job for a fox to me. My cats usually keep
them away. What was the purpose of the scrape? Would that indicate
badger rather than fox or vice versa?


Definitely a badger - very difficult for a fox to open up a curled up
hedgehog but no problem for a badger. The scrape at this time of year
is more than likely an indication of digging for earthworms which make
up the majority of a badgers diet. The only sightings of foxes with a
hedgehog carcass that I am aware of is where there is also known badger
activity and the foxes have been after the left overs.

--
Robert

Rusty_Hinge[_2_] 27-01-2009 03:33 PM

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This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?

Fox.


No, badger.


Scrape? Obviously a rabbit. Wererabbit?


Welsh rabbit?


As our Polish onetime au-pair used to call it - 'Cheese off toast' - and
my, was she right!

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Gordon H[_3_] 27-01-2009 04:33 PM

Hedgehog predator?
 
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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
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from moghouse contains these words:

This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?


Fox.


No, badger.

Those badgers can drive you crazy!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MMeLFEq58QU
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Rusty_Hinge[_2_] 27-01-2009 08:19 PM

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Welsh rabbit?


As our Polish onetime au-pair used to call it - 'Cheese off toast' - and
my, was she right!


LOL


She wouldn't be persuaded to put a baking tray under it, so you can
imagine the billows of smoke as she opened the door of the Aga's top
oven...

and a German friend's merging of Penguin Cookery Book's recipes "Toad in the
Shepherd's Hole"


I think I'll pass that one.

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Rusty
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Christina Websell 31-01-2009 03:55 PM

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This morning I found a hole dug in my lawn, about two inches deep and
obviously made by paws and claws. Next to the hole was the remains of
a hedgehog - prickles only the rest had gone (eaten?) Can anybody
suggest what the predator might have been?

Fox.


No, badger.


Scrape? Obviously a rabbit. Wererabbit?

The scrape is probably where the badger was digging for earthworms.
Lawn-digger-uppering ;-) is the main complaint from householders about
surburban badgers IIRC.

Badgers are easily able to unroll live hedgehogs but a fox is only likely to
have eaten it if was dead already i.e. unfurled so to speak.







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