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Judith in France wrote:
On Apr 4, 6:42 pm, "Ophelia" wrote: K wrote: Ophelia writes Not just a question to you Bob, but are my questions terribly asinine? Would it be preferable to the group for me to go away and do some research first? Even experts have subjects in which they are complete beginners. And for every person who asks a question, there are probably 6 who would like to know the answer but for whatever reason have not got around to asking. Thank you Kay. You are very kind:) If you have any cacti, ask Kay. I went to her home in Leeds and she has a special greenhouse entirely devoted to them and insect eating plant things, she has a good garden. Scary:) I am more interested in growing food though. |
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On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:05:21 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 3/4/09 20:44, in article , "Ophelia" wrote: Derek Turner wrote: On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:12:29 +0200, David in Normandy wrote: Mine are already up! They are all around an inch or two above the surface of the soil. I'm just hoping there aren't any really hard frosts. Same here, but mine are covered by three or four inches of vraic so shouldn't suffer even if do get a late frost. Vraic? Bladder wrack seaweed. Old Norman French/Jersey term for that type of seaweed. It's a first class fertiliser/ground improver. And it's free! And you can collect it by the bin-load from the concrete at Petit Port after a spring tide, especially with a westerly. |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... Judith in France wrote: On Apr 4, 6:42 pm, "Ophelia" wrote: K wrote: Ophelia writes Not just a question to you Bob, but are my questions terribly asinine? Would it be preferable to the group for me to go away and do some research first? Even experts have subjects in which they are complete beginners. And for every person who asks a question, there are probably 6 who would like to know the answer but for whatever reason have not got around to asking. Thank you Kay. You are very kind:) If you have any cacti, ask Kay. I went to her home in Leeds and she has a special greenhouse entirely devoted to them and insect eating plant things, she has a good garden. Scary:) I am more interested in growing food though. Me too! |
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On 4/4/09 19:02, in article , "Derek
Turner" wrote: snip It is said that the taste of 'real' Jersey Royals was largely down to the salt and iodine in the vraic. snip I hope President Obama appreciated them. ;-) Certainly those grown with vraic taste infinitely better than any others. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:03:25 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 4/4/09 19:02, in article , "Derek Turner" wrote: snip It is said that the taste of 'real' Jersey Royals was largely down to the salt and iodine in the vraic. snip I hope President Obama appreciated them. ;-) Certainly those grown with vraic taste infinitely better than any others. Any idea why we IMPORT rather than EXPORT asparagus Sacha? ISTM that we have absolutely ideal conditions for growing it! Disease? takes too long? can't be arsed? |
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On 4/4/09 22:35, in article , "Derek
Turner" wrote: On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:03:25 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 4/4/09 19:02, in article , "Derek Turner" wrote: snip It is said that the taste of 'real' Jersey Royals was largely down to the salt and iodine in the vraic. snip I hope President Obama appreciated them. ;-) Certainly those grown with vraic taste infinitely better than any others. Any idea why we IMPORT rather than EXPORT asparagus Sacha? ISTM that we have absolutely ideal conditions for growing it! Disease? takes too long? can't be arsed? My guess is because it's such a short season and so many other countries do it now. The Jersey Royal is unique in its origins and has an appellation controlée sort of 'glamour' to it. In the days when there were more and bigger herds on Jersey, I never understood why we didn't make a lot more cheese and yoghurt. Now, whenever I visit I'm pushed to see a Jersey cow, it seems to me! My son has some land in Grouville which nobody's interested in renting for farming and my guess is that with the advent of the financial industry, young people would rather work in a warm office 9-5 for a good salary than out in the fields from 6 to 8, rain or shine for a comparative pittance! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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On 5/4/09 08:45, in article ,
"Martin" wrote: On 4 Apr 2009 21:35:46 GMT, Derek Turner wrote: On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:03:25 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 4/4/09 19:02, in article , "Derek Turner" wrote: snip It is said that the taste of 'real' Jersey Royals was largely down to the salt and iodine in the vraic. snip I hope President Obama appreciated them. ;-) Certainly those grown with vraic taste infinitely better than any others. Any idea why we IMPORT rather than EXPORT asparagus Sacha? ISTM that we have absolutely ideal conditions for growing it! Disease? takes too long? can't be arsed? I guess the same reason UK imports flower bulbs and so many things that can be produced in UK rather than exports them. Judging by the ever shrinking areas of Dutch bulb fields there must be a bigger area in UK, or have English bulb fields been turned into housing estates too. A lot of daff bulbs are grown in Cornwall for the trade. We know of one Jerseyman who owns land near Hayle and has been growing there for years. I think he's just got out of it now but AFAIK, it was quite a big enterprise, though probably not anything like as large as the Dutch growers. However, his business partner was the son of a Dutch family that came to Jersey several generations ago! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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On 5/4/09 09:15, in article ,
"Martin" wrote: On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:03:23 +0100, Sacha wrote: snip A lot of daff bulbs are grown in Cornwall for the trade. We know of one Jerseyman who owns land near Hayle and has been growing there for years. and people have grown Scilly White's in the Scilly Isles for generations too. For some reason, my wife was surprised that Walkers actually grew bulbs. I think he's just got out of it now but AFAIK, it was quite a big enterprise, though probably not anything like as large as the Dutch growers. However, his business partner was the son of a Dutch family that came to Jersey several generations ago! Those pesky Dutch are everywhere :) Same with Jersey people - we get around us seafarers. ;-) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:01:34 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 4/4/09 22:35, in article , "Derek Turner" wrote: On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:03:25 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 4/4/09 19:02, in article , "Derek Turner" wrote: snip It is said that the taste of 'real' Jersey Royals was largely down to the salt and iodine in the vraic. snip I hope President Obama appreciated them. ;-) Certainly those grown with vraic taste infinitely better than any others. Any idea why we IMPORT rather than EXPORT asparagus Sacha? ISTM that we have absolutely ideal conditions for growing it! Disease? takes too long? can't be arsed? My guess is because it's such a short season and so many other countries do it now. The Jersey Royal is unique in its origins and has an appellation controlée sort of 'glamour' to it. Yebbutt Evesham asparagus flown in at £4 a bundle in Checkers... In the days when there were more and bigger herds on Jersey, I never understood why we didn't make a lot more cheese and yoghurt. Mode=namedropping I was at a dinner-party at Government house last year with the MD of the Jersey Dairies and asked him just that. To be fair, JD make both yoghurt and ice-cream to die for. But the cheese is 'cheddar' and very ordinary indeed. OTOH Classic Herd up at St. Peter have broken away from the JD cooperative and stated making the style of cheeses that the rest of Normandy makes - and winning prizes for it. Their yoghurt isn't a patch on JD's, though - thin and grainy. Anyhoo apparently the cheese is not considered to be important to their business and is made in the West Country, apparently (unless he was pulling my leg). It has (the cheese) improved over the last year Now, whenever I visit I'm pushed to see a Jersey cow, it seems to me! My son has some land in Grouville which nobody's interested in renting for farming and my guess is that with the advent of the financial industry, young people would rather work in a warm office 9-5 for a good salary than out in the fields from 6 to 8, rain or shine for a comparative pittance! But surely, that's what the Scots/Madeirans/Eastern-Europeans are for! And asparagus is not exactly high-maintenance, is it? Plant once, harvest for 15-20 years. |
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On 5/4/09 12:41, in article , "Derek
Turner" wrote: On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:01:34 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 4/4/09 22:35, in article , "Derek Turner" wrote: On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:03:25 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 4/4/09 19:02, in article , "Derek Turner" wrote: snip It is said that the taste of 'real' Jersey Royals was largely down to the salt and iodine in the vraic. snip I hope President Obama appreciated them. ;-) Certainly those grown with vraic taste infinitely better than any others. Any idea why we IMPORT rather than EXPORT asparagus Sacha? ISTM that we have absolutely ideal conditions for growing it! Disease? takes too long? can't be arsed? My guess is because it's such a short season and so many other countries do it now. The Jersey Royal is unique in its origins and has an appellation controlée sort of 'glamour' to it. Yebbutt Evesham asparagus flown in at £4 a bundle in Checkers... Flown in from Evesham?! Eh? In the days when there were more and bigger herds on Jersey, I never understood why we didn't make a lot more cheese and yoghurt. Mode=namedropping I was at a dinner-party at Government house last year with the MD of the Jersey Dairies and asked him just that. To be fair, JD make both yoghurt and ice-cream to die for. But the cheese is 'cheddar' and very ordinary indeed. OTOH Classic Herd up at St. Peter have broken away from the JD cooperative and stated making the style of cheeses that the rest of Normandy makes - and winning prizes for it. Their yoghurt isn't a patch on JD's, though - thin and grainy. Anyhoo apparently the cheese is not considered to be important to their business and is made in the West Country, apparently (unless he was pulling my leg). It has (the cheese) improved over the last year It wouldn't surprise me if it is made off-island from Jersey herds somewhere 'down here'. A lot of Jersey herd milk is used in the making of ice cream and someone makes a blue cheese on Exmoor, I believe. I recognised a few of those names in the Classic Herd set up, though that's new since I left the island. Nice to know they're still in farming. Now, whenever I visit I'm pushed to see a Jersey cow, it seems to me! My son has some land in Grouville which nobody's interested in renting for farming and my guess is that with the advent of the financial industry, young people would rather work in a warm office 9-5 for a good salary than out in the fields from 6 to 8, rain or shine for a comparative pittance! But surely, that's what the Scots/Madeirans/Eastern-Europeans are for! And asparagus is not exactly high-maintenance, is it? Plant once, harvest for 15-20 years. The imported Labour still has to have farms to work on which are owned by Jersey people with qualis to live on the island etc. And if the young are getting out of farming and not taking over from their parents, then farming is going to the wall. I wonder how many farms are now posh houses where the land is used for grazing ponies where once, even if the house had been gentrified, the land was let back to a farmer. Last time I drove past St Saviour's hospital I saw several fields that were rank grass - very sad. I just hope the Perchards are still going, otherwise I know the game's up! ;-)) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:38:59 +0100, Sacha wrote:
Yebbutt Evesham asparagus flown in at £4 a bundle in Checkers... Flown in from Evesham?! Eh? OK, perhaps ferried in. There's always a boat in the morning, eh? |
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On 5/4/09 20:53, in article , "Derek
Turner" wrote: On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:38:59 +0100, Sacha wrote: Yebbutt Evesham asparagus flown in at £4 a bundle in Checkers... Flown in from Evesham?! Eh? OK, perhaps ferried in. There's always a boat in the morning, eh? Oh dear yes - how many times have I heard that one! -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials online |
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