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Ba Humbug!
What a farce, pity they didn't get some veg growers to do the prog. the team are not veg growers as could be seen by their advice and how they were doing things. As for the "New" garden, I wish I could throw money at a site as they have done, How much better to show how to do the different jobs without spending a fortune, £200 for a raised bed, and they have 4. Why not show how you can dig out the path around the bed to use the top soil to make the raised bed, keep the beds no more than 5ft wide so you can work them without having to walk on the bed, I'm sure that others here could go on adding to the faults David Hill Abacus Nurseries |
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:47:08 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
wrote: Ba Humbug! What a farce, pity they didn't get some veg growers to do the prog. the team are not veg growers as could be seen by their advice and how they were doing things. As for the "New" garden, I wish I could throw money at a site as they have done, How much better to show how to do the different jobs without spending a fortune, £200 for a raised bed, and they have 4. Why not show how you can dig out the path around the bed to use the top soil to make the raised bed, keep the beds no more than 5ft wide so you can work them without having to walk on the bed, I'm sure that others here could go on adding to the faults David Hill Abacus Nurseries More Humbugs! I would love to know exactly how much money, time, manpower etc was spent to get the garden from the quagmire it was at the beginning of Feb to the lovely workable, weed-free soil they had at the end of March. All those diggers etc and now look at it! Toby suggested that our Councils might provide "free" compost. Just try asking my council about that! They charge "the earth!!!" How much did they spend on the building work? Those growbags planted with lettuce seed were done in a ridiculous place. Try moving a ready planted growbag off a paved area without disturbing it! The shed looks dreadful, the "sofa" area is a stupid idea. I've learned nothing yet! Pam in Bristol |
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Pam Moore wrote: On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:47:08 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill wrote: Ba Humbug! What a farce, pity they didn't get some veg growers to do the prog. the team are not veg growers as could be seen by their advice and how they were doing things. As for the "New" garden, I wish I could throw money at a site as they have done, How much better to show how to do the different jobs without spending a fortune, £200 for a raised bed, and they have 4. Why not show how you can dig out the path around the bed to use the top soil to make the raised bed, keep the beds no more than 5ft wide so you can work them without having to walk on the bed, I'm sure that others here could go on adding to the faults David Hill Abacus Nurseries More Humbugs! I would love to know exactly how much money, time, manpower etc was spent to get the garden from the quagmire it was at the beginning of Feb to the lovely workable, weed-free soil they had at the end of March. All those diggers etc and now look at it! Toby suggested that our Councils might provide "free" compost. Just try asking my council about that! They charge "the earth!!!" How much did they spend on the building work? Those growbags planted with lettuce seed were done in a ridiculous place. Try moving a ready planted growbag off a paved area without disturbing it! The shed looks dreadful, the "sofa" area is a stupid idea. I've learned nothing yet! Pam in Bristol Oh, well last week was not good. However, this week we got some informative stuff. Stop being a pedant..........learnt nothing?.......then don't bother watching......you obviously know it all! -- Pete C London UK |
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"Dave Hill" wrote ... Ba Humbug! What a farce, pity they didn't get some veg growers to do the prog. the team are not veg growers as could be seen by their advice and how they were doing things. As for the "New" garden, I wish I could throw money at a site as they have done, How much better to show how to do the different jobs without spending a fortune, £200 for a raised bed, and they have 4. Why not show how you can dig out the path around the bed to use the top soil to make the raised bed, keep the beds no more than 5ft wide so you can work them without having to walk on the bed, I'm sure that others here could go on adding to the faults What worries me is that a lot of novice veg growers watch the program and think it's the best, most modern way, to do it and all us old folks are doing it the outdated old fashioned way. Raised beds being an example. A number of the new gardeners on our site started off planting in small beds, raised or otherwise, before either giving up a couple of seasons down the line or reverting to the old way of growing without wasting half the plot with paths which have to be tended too. At about £95 per plot it's too expensive to waste land. Free manure/soil improver from your local Council.....yeh right! May I suggest any novice veg growers subscribe to "The Kitchen Garden" magazine which is well worth the money. -- Regards Bob Hobden just W. of London |
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Bob Hobden wrote:
What worries me is that a lot of novice veg growers watch the program and think it's the best, most modern way, to do it and all us old folks are doing it the outdated old fashioned way. Well I for one, am more interested in the experiences of people who do it, 'the old fashioned way'. Raised beds being an example. A number of the new gardeners on our site started off planting in small beds, raised or otherwise, before either giving up a couple of seasons down the line or reverting to the old way of growing without wasting half the plot with paths which have to be tended too. At about £95 per plot it's too expensive to waste land. That is interesting because that is the way I intend to go. Mainly, I must say, to be sure I can reach the plants as I get older. I know what it is to be unable to bend properly. I already have metal knees and I am looking to do the work in the easiest way possible. Free manure/soil improver from your local Council.....yeh right! May I suggest any novice veg growers subscribe to "The Kitchen Garden" magazine which is well worth the money. I shall do that very thing! Thanks Bob. |
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In message , Bob Hobden
writes "Dave Hill" wrote ... Ba Humbug! What a farce, pity they didn't get some veg growers to do the prog. the team are not veg growers as could be seen by their advice and how they were doing things. As for the "New" garden, I wish I could throw money at a site as they have done, snip May I suggest any novice veg growers subscribe to "The Kitchen Garden" magazine which is well worth the money. Thanks for the prompt. I meant to post this point before but, along with my knees, my memory also seems to be on the way out! Any further opinions on "The Kitchen Garden" mag would be welcome before I invest my £36.00. TIA. -- Gopher .... I know my place! |
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Gopher wrote:
In message , Bob Hobden writes "Dave Hill" wrote ... Ba Humbug! What a farce, pity they didn't get some veg growers to do the prog. the team are not veg growers as could be seen by their advice and how they were doing things. As for the "New" garden, I wish I could throw money at a site as they have done, snip May I suggest any novice veg growers subscribe to "The Kitchen Garden" magazine which is well worth the money. Thanks for the prompt. I meant to post this point before but, along with my knees, my memory also seems to be on the way out! Any further opinions on "The Kitchen Garden" mag would be welcome before I invest my £36.00. I think I can pick them up from my local newsagent. Is it cheaper to have a subscription? |
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Martin wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:44:03 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote: Bob Hobden wrote: What worries me is that a lot of novice veg growers watch the program and think it's the best, most modern way, to do it and all us old folks are doing it the outdated old fashioned way. Well I for one, am more interested in the experiences of people who do it, 'the old fashioned way'. Raised beds being an example. A number of the new gardeners on our site started off planting in small beds, raised or otherwise, before either giving up a couple of seasons down the line or reverting to the old way of growing without wasting half the plot with paths which have to be tended too. At about £95 per plot it's too expensive to waste land. That is interesting because that is the way I intend to go. Mainly, I must say, to be sure I can reach the plants as I get older. I know what it is to be unable to bend properly. I already have metal knees and I am looking to do the work in the easiest way possible. Free manure/soil improver from your local Council.....yeh right! May I suggest any novice veg growers subscribe to "The Kitchen Garden" magazine which is well worth the money. I shall do that very thing! You can get an digital version cheap. 12 for £18.00 Cover Price : £30.00 Digital versions arrive much earlier than the paper versions. I received the May edition of a boat magazine at the beginning of April. Links to magazines 1) Organic Garden and Home (UK) Buy Now: http://links.zinio.com/rts/go.aspx?t...26&mg=44360287 2) Country Life International(UK) Buy now: http://links.zinio.com/rts/go.aspx?t...26&mg=44360287 3)Kitchen Garden(UK) Buy now: http://links.zinio.com/rts/go.aspx?t...26&mg=44360287 7)Vegetarian Times (US) http://links.zinio.com/rts/go.aspx?t...26&mg=44360287 On the negative side you need a laptop to peruse them at your own convenience. Thanks for that, Martin. I do indeed have a laptop:) I might still buy the Kitchen Garden magazine sometimes though, it's nice to curl up with:) |
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In message , Anne Welsh Jackson
writes "Pete C" wrote: Oh, well last week was not good. However, this week we got some informative stuff. Stop being a pedant..........learnt nothing?.......then don't bother watching......you obviously know it all! YOU may have "got some informative stuff", but then you're a beginner, aren't you? There's a lot I don't know about gardening, but "Gardeners World" isn't the place to enlighten me! This is a programme for novices!! Which is all very well - but it isn't Gardeners World!! You are being unfair, Anne. I learned that I can't afford a raised bed. And it was nice to see the kids playing happily with their grow bags. The programme didn't tell me how to deal with an animal of some kind which shifted a stone off the corrugated plastic which is protecting the sugar snaps bed until they germinate, dug a hole 1ft diameter and 9" deep. It then crapped and vomited in and around the hole. 8-( -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:19:56 +0100, "Pete C"
wrote: Oh, well last week was not good. However, this week we got some informative stuff. Stop being a pedant..........learnt nothing?.......then don't bother watching......you obviously know it all! A real gardener NEVER knows it all, but hopes for something new from each programme. Pam in Bristol |
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Pam Moore wrote: On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:19:56 +0100, "Pete C" wrote: Oh, well last week was not good. However, this week we got some informative stuff. Stop being a pedant..........learnt nothing?.......then don't bother watching......you obviously know it all! A real gardener NEVER knows it all, but hopes for something new from each programme. Pam in Bristol Oh, I 'do' so agree. -- Pete C London UK |
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In message , Anne Welsh Jackson
writes Gordon H wrote: You are being unfair, Anne. I learned that I can't afford a raised bed. And it was nice to see the kids playing happily with their grow bags. Our new community gardens are being officially "handed over" later this month. We're to be having loads of raised beds, which will be funded by some body or other. Perhaps if you applied to English Natural Heritage, or something... ;-) LOL! I was referring to the "kids" who were on the patio in front of the silly shed. The programme didn't tell me how to deal with an animal of some kind which shifted a stone off the corrugated plastic which is protecting the sugar snaps bed until they germinate, dug a hole 1ft diameter and 9" deep. It then crapped and vomited in and around the hole. 8-( Oh, yuk!! You had a good look at the crap, I presume? That might have told you which type of animal was the culprit... I have seen it before, and suspect a big Tomcat. It craps on my front lawn or next door's occasionally, after scratching at the grass. I haven't seen foxes in the garden for a year or more, but I don't check the security camera recordings every day. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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