New Greenhouse
 

The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. It wasn't quite finished. We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Judith

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Judith in France wrote:
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. It wasn't quite finished. We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Judith

Planning permission for a greenhouse? Really? What is the difference
between a garden and "land opposite"? Our property is situated on just
over an acre of garden/land with no distinction between the two as far
as I'm aware. I plan to build a greenhouse or polytunnel at some point.
Will I need planning permission? I thought such things were much more
liberal here than in England for that sort of thing? I guess it would
likely be a problem if the "greenhouse" was really a "conservatory" and
positioned in front of the house as opposed to say 50 yards from the
house in the garden/land.
--
David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, David in Normandy wrote:

Judith in France wrote:
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. It wasn't quite finished. We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Judith

Planning permission for a greenhouse? Really? What is the difference
between a garden and "land opposite"? Our property is situated on just
over an acre of garden/land with no distinction between the two as far
as I'm aware. I plan to build a greenhouse or polytunnel at some point.
Will I need planning permission? I thought such things were much more
liberal here than in England for that sort of thing? I guess it would
likely be a problem if the "greenhouse" was really a "conservatory" and
positioned in front of the house as opposed to say 50 yards from the
house in the garden/land.

Making friends with the local maire is always a good idea.

David

--
David Rance
writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

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Martin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:55:25 +0200, David in Normandy
wrote:

David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's alight you laughing, that little FROG keeps my inbox clear of all
manner of rubbish from nigerian frauds to dodgy lottery wins. It doesn't
matter if the bots harvest my email address because spam never has the
password on the subject line, hence spam never reaches my inbox from
this email address. Very effective.

--
David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

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"Judith in France" wrote in message
...
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. It wasn't quite finished. We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Judith


So sorry to hear that, Judith. What a waste! You must feel really let
down. Years ago I had an aluminium/glass coldframe, and woke up one morning
after a storm to find it had been blown through the air and smashed on the
lawn. Not nearly as calamatous as your problem, but very tricky trying to
get the glass shards out of the lawn before mowing :~(.

I must say it seems unreasonable to require planning permission for a
greenhouse. You would think that, these days, you'd be encouraged to grow
your own.

Spider

New Greenhouse
 

Judith in France wrote:
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. It wasn't quite finished. We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Judith

Oh dear what rotten luck, twice in 5 days. What happened to the Eglu, I
think you mentioned that was on the same land?

Bobbie

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Judith in France wrote:
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. It wasn't quite finished. We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted.

We live in one of the windiest locations I know, 600' up in the Pentland
Hills near Edinburgh (Scotland)[1]. We have had no problems erecting the
green house or subsequently, however we did make up little aluminium
brackets and screwed the whole structure to the slabs that make up the base

Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ooops in that case there are six greenhouses that have to come down just
next to us as none of them have planning permission including mine .
Tommy Walsh was just on and it was something like "less than 300m^2 in
ground area and under 4 metres in height no planning permission was
needed" mind you if the structure is meant to be human habitable all
bets are off. Maybe France has entirely different rules/laws to
Scotland regarding garden buildings.

[1] http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.u...rno/index.html

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On Apr 15, 11:20*am, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France

wrote:
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. *It wasn't quite finished. *We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. *What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. *I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. *Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For as long as I can remember, there's been a commercial sized polytent in a
windswept local field surrounded on three sides by Leylandii.

I hope we aren't going to get the leftovers of your weather tomorrow.

100,000, mainly French and Germans, visited the Keukenhof on Saturday and
Sunday, *whilst 30 miles north west of Amsterdam, there are flowers to the
horizon and nobody shows any interest.
--

Martin

The gales is still blowing Martin, I see tiles off a neighbouring
barn. I loved the Keukenhof and bought some black tuplis there.

Judith

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On Apr 15, 11:55*am, David in Normandy
wrote:
Judith in France wrote:
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. *It wasn't quite finished. *We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. *What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. *I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. *Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Judith

Planning permission for a greenhouse? Really? What is the difference
between a garden and "land opposite"? Our property is situated on just
over an acre of garden/land with no distinction between the two as far
as I'm aware. I plan to build a greenhouse or polytunnel at some point.
Will I need planning permission? I thought such things were much more
liberal here than in England for that sort of thing? I guess it would
likely be a problem if the "greenhouse" was really a "conservatory" and
positioned in front of the house as opposed to say 50 yards from the
house in the garden/land.
--
David in Normandy. *
* *To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
* *subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
* *by a filter and not reach my inbox.

I don't know the difference David. Our garden attached to the house
requires planning permission, the land we own is opposite the house
and no permission was required! It's nothing like a conservatory,
it's just like the Halls we had in the UK. We should have been warned
when it was buckled, at the metal stage by blowing down. That was an
indicator, that, when it was glazed it would even be more at risk in
the position it was in. I'm going to 'phone our Mayor tonight as he
won't be at the Mairie until Monday and I need to get on with my
tomatoes.

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On Apr 15, 12:04*pm, David Rance
wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, David in Normandy wrote:
Judith in France wrote:
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. *It wasn't quite finished. *We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. *What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. *I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. *Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Judith

Planning permission for a greenhouse? Really? What is the difference
between a garden and "land opposite"? Our property is situated on just
over an acre of garden/land with no distinction between the two as far
as I'm aware. I plan to build a greenhouse or polytunnel at some point.
Will I need planning permission? I thought such things were much more
liberal here than in England for that sort of thing? I guess it would
likely be a problem if the "greenhouse" was really a "conservatory" and
positioned in front of the house as opposed to say 50 yards from the
house in the garden/land.

Making friends with the local maire is always a good idea.

David

--
David Rance
writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

It certainly is David, we are moderately friendly with him and he has
visited our home a few times for a BBQ and supper. We also support all
municipal events including the annual ball in the square, where we all
sit on scrubbed pine tables, eat, drink and dance. I've even danced,
or tried to dance, with him but my Auvergne clog dance is not up to
scratch :-)

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On Apr 15, 2:01*pm, "Spider" wrote:
"Judith in France" wrote in ...

The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. *It wasn't quite finished. *We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. *What a waste of money, insurance won't cover
it. *I said originally that I wanted it in the garden and not on our
land opposite, because of the gales here. *Unfortunately to erect a
greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Judith

So sorry to hear that, Judith. *What a waste! *You must feel really let
down. *Years ago I had an aluminium/glass coldframe, and woke up one morning
after a storm to find it had been blown through the air and smashed on the
lawn. *Not nearly as calamatous as your problem, but very tricky trying to
get the glass shards out of the lawn before mowing :~(.

I must say it seems unreasonable to require planning permission for a
greenhouse. *You would think that, these days, you'd be encouraged to grow
your own.

Spider

Thanks Spider but I have to say I was always doubtful about the
position it was in, I should have gone with instinct, I will next
time.

Judith

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On Apr 15, 2:45*pm, soup wrote:
Judith in France wrote:
The new greenhouse has taken off in the gales this morning and is a
crumpled heap. *It wasn't quite finished. *We think it is beyond
repair as it is twisted. *

We live in one of the windiest locations I know, 600' up in the Pentland
Hills near Edinburgh (Scotland)[1]. We have had no problems erecting the
green house or subsequently, however we did make up little aluminium
brackets and screwed the whole structure to the slabs that make up the base

* Unfortunately to erect a

greenhouse in the garden, we need planning permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ooops in that case there are six greenhouses that have to come down just
next to us as none of them have planning permission including mine .
Tommy Walsh was just on and it was something like "less than 300m^2 in
ground area and under 4 metres in height no planning permission was
needed" mind you if the structure is meant to be human habitable all
bets are off. *Maybe France has entirely different rules/laws to
Scotland regarding garden buildings.

[1]http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/balerno/balerno/index.html

I've no idea about regulations elsewhere soup, we certainly didn't
need planning permission, or building regs when we lived in England, I
do think it is plain daft.

Judith

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Martin wrote:
My ISP isn't the best in the world, but it does keeps spam and viruses away
from my INBOX. It's technically possible. IMO they should be legally obliged to
block spam and viruses.

I don't trust anyone else to filter spam. Too many false positives. I've
lost software sales due to over-enthusiastic spam blocking by ISP's and
they still let some spam through anyway. NTL used to be the worst ISP in
the UK - at one time they blacklisted all emails from Wanadoo/Orange
France - and for over a year! This completely cut off my accountant
there and a couple of family members. I ended up sacking the accountant.
Pity I couldn't do the same with some family members ;-)

I abandoned the email address with my ISP Wanadoo/Orange here in France.
The account is saturated with spam. I think someone managed to hack and
grab their entire database of email names a couple of years ago. Either
that or they sold it to spammers! There was a lot of talk on forums at
the time about the explosion in spam to Wanadoo/Orange email addresses.
The address gets a thousand spams a week. I don't even look at it any more.
--
David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

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Martin wrote:
I am still using a successor of Orange. Spam has dropped dramatically in the
last ten days. From over a hundred a day to around twenty.

With the sort of filtering I do I get zero spams and no false positives.
I absolutely loathe spam. It is one thing guaranteed to raise my blood
pressure - unlike my garden, which generally lowers it - except when I'm
digging ;-)

--
David in Normandy.
To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the
subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.

New Greenhouse
 

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, Judith in France wrote:

On Apr 15, 12:04*pm, David Rance
wrote:

Making friends with the local maire is always a good idea.


It certainly is David, we are moderately friendly with him and he has
visited our home a few times for a BBQ and supper. We also support all
municipal events including the annual ball in the square, where we all
sit on scrubbed pine tables, eat, drink and dance. I've even danced,
or tried to dance, with him but my Auvergne clog dance is not up to
scratch :-)

Ah, you're doing all the right things. We found the value of that here
in Normandy.

David
--
David Rance
writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France