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Gardeners World should be pulled
On 2009-06-07 17:14:31 +0100, "Dave Liquorice"
said: On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:56:40 +0200, Martin wrote: The BBC are supposed to inform, educate and entertain. Agreed, that is what public service broadcasting should do and note the order of those things. It now appears to be entertain, inform and educate. Public non commercial broadcasting would be funded from the infrastructure budget as it is in for example the Netherlands. Heaven forbid that should ever happen here. The licence fee is not ideal but at least it keeps the government of the day at arms length. I really doubt that even the vesitages of impartiality that still exist within the BBC would survive long if the goverment had direct control of the purse strings. Agree 100%. -- -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:50:50 +0200, Martin wrote:
Maybe something to do with GW personalities also writing gardening articles for the press. The Times commented http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle6168285.ece Written By Rosie who is one of the most insane people to write for the british press at the moment. She's a serial house buyer who's virtually penniless and has frequently written about being it ad nauseum. -- http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:30:43 +0200, Martin wrote:
There is no sign of political interference in public broadcasting in the Netherlands. You trust our lot? There is already an awful lot of political media manipulation going on, it would be far worse if the government had a tighter grip on the money. The UK government already has direct control of the purse strings. It controls the cost of a TV licence. But only every 5(?) years, not as part of the the 6 monthly national budget. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
On 2009-06-09 09:22:47 +0100, Martin said:
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:21:13 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:30:43 +0200, Martin wrote: There is no sign of political interference in public broadcasting in the Netherlands. You trust our lot? There is already an awful lot of political media manipulation going on, it would be far worse if the government had a tighter grip on the money. Most of the UK media is right wing. What do you expect? Is it? The Times is owned by a republican, and supported Blair in the 2001 and 2005 elections; the Daily Mirror is left wing, The Sun once supported Mrs Thatcher but then came out in support of Labour and cost the Tories 500k votes according to one observer in 1997; the Grauniad and the Independent are left wing, though the Indy probably tries to do a better balancing act, the FT is largely regarded as being pretty neutral while the Daily Mail and the Telegraph are right wing, as is the Daily Express, though its readership has fallen off quite badly, AIUI and it supported Labour in 2001. The BBC seems to be worrying about not upsetting the government, especially since the David Kelly horror. The Sun and the Daily Mail have the highest circulation figures, I believe but am not swearing to that. The Morning Star is far left, the Observer is left wing, the Sunday Express and Mail on Sunday are right wing. The People is left wing, the News of the World is right wing but is hardly a serious newspaper. Overall, I wouldn't say UK media is strongly right wing. -- -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
In message , Bob Hobden
writes In the week of the 11th May GW was 6th in the ratings for BBC2 with 2.4 million viewers, so no chance of it being pulled. http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyT...ammesOverview? Looking at the most popular programmes gives one some idea of the average viewer, it says it all! Depressing, innit? I will confess to being part of the largest audience, watching BGT. That was first class entertainment, IMO, despite a couple of ridiculous acts. As for the rest, I am always with the minority. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
In message , Anne Welsh Jackson
writes No, it's not just you... My requirement of television programmes is that they either educate or entertain. I find that fewer and ever fewer programmes achieve this. Never mind, just a few short years and I won't have to pay for a licence. I wonder if there'll be any programmes left, which will be worth watching? Springwatch, Coast, South Pacific. They are well worth what I don't pay for my licence. :-) -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
In message , Martin
writes On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:05:33 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson wrote: Why Slough? Were you thinking of the Betjeman poem? It's where Nigella's kitchen is located - in a prefab building on an industrial estate. But, but... I've seen her getting out of a taxi and rushing into a town house in the city, kicking off her shoes, removing her earrings and, and... Sorry, I have to go. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
Martin wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:06:24 +0100, Gordon H wrote: In message , Martin writes On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:05:33 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson wrote: Why Slough? Were you thinking of the Betjeman poem? It's where Nigella's kitchen is located - in a prefab building on an industrial estate. But, but... I've seen her getting out of a taxi and rushing into a town house in the city, kicking off her shoes, removing her earrings and, and... Sorry, I have to go. You've probably seen Lord Saccharine's board room in Canary Wharf many times in the Apprentice, despite his offices actually being located somewhere in a shed in North East London. Heh next you'll be tell us Eastenders is real too. Please, say no more, I have had enough illusions shattered for one day, and not a single mention of a hybrid or a hoe. Pssst! it surely isn't filmed in Fort William is it?. Bobbie |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
Martin wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:56:04 +0100, Bobbie wrote: Martin wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:06:24 +0100, Gordon H wrote: In message , Martin writes On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:05:33 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson wrote: Why Slough? Were you thinking of the Betjeman poem? It's where Nigella's kitchen is located - in a prefab building on an industrial estate. But, but... I've seen her getting out of a taxi and rushing into a town house in the city, kicking off her shoes, removing her earrings and, and... Sorry, I have to go. You've probably seen Lord Saccharine's board room in Canary Wharf many times in the Apprentice, despite his offices actually being located somewhere in a shed in North East London. Heh next you'll be tell us Eastenders is real too. Please, say no more, I have had enough illusions shattered for one day, and not a single mention of a hybrid or a hoe. Pssst! it surely isn't filmed in Fort William is it?. Only Fools and Horses was filmed in Bristol. The Rocket Man set around Newport Gwent was filmed in Northumberland. George Gently set in Northumberland is filmed in Dublin. The books are set in East Anglia. Really? Good gracious. At least I know that Doc Martin is filmed in Cornwall. Port Isaac to be exact. The home of my in-laws and a place I love to visit, whenever possible. They do grow the most delicious Pasties there. Bobbie;-) -- http://www.smudgespatch.co.uk/newhome2.html |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
On 2009-06-09 14:35:00 +0100, Martin said:
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:34:34 +0100, Sacha wrote: snip Most of the UK media is right wing. What do you expect? Is it? The Times is owned by a republican, and supported Blair in the 2001 and 2005 elections; the Daily Mirror is left wing, The Sun once supported Mrs Thatcher but then came out in support of Labour and cost the Tories 500k votes according to one observer in 1997; the Grauniad and the Independent are left wing, though the Indy probably tries to do a better balancing act, the FT is largely regarded as being pretty neutral while the Daily Mail and the Telegraph are right wing, as is the Daily Express, though its readership has fallen off quite badly, snip I think if you look at the newspapers you list, only the Guardian and the Mirror are consistent supporters of the Labour party. I don;t know about the Peep hole I had forgotten it existed. The Dirty Digger and his newspapers supports whichever newspapers he thinks will do him the most benefit. I don;t see any signs in the Observer of Labour support. The BBC seems to upset everybody. Some interviewers give Tories an easy ride others give Labour an easy ride. The BBC political editor is horribly biased. I'm amazed he has survived so long. I think there's a difference between clear support for a particular party and a slight or considerable bias towards conservatism or socialism (lower case!) -- -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
On 2009-06-09 17:00:51 +0100, Martin said:
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:50:22 +0100, Sacha wrote: I think there's a difference between clear support for a particular party and a slight or considerable bias towards conservatism or socialism (lower case!) Nick echoes the Tory Party line every time. He is unable to present an objective view. I genuinely hadn't noticed that but others' politics don't interest me a lot. ;-) -- -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
On Jun 9, 2:38*pm, Martin wrote:
...........Heh next you'll be tell us Eastenders is real too. Silly boy, that would be too fantastic. My daughter and I have frequently discussed the nature of reality and have come to the conclusion that Dr Who and Startrek are real and all the rest is illusion. |
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Gardeners World should be pulled
In article , Sacha
writes On 2009-06-06 17:25:44 +0100, "Bob Hobden" said: "michael" wrote... The content now is awful,and I am afraid to say that I think the series should be pulled. It's all about viewing figures. If they drop to a certain low level then it will be pulled just like "Richard and Judy". Maybe that's what they want? I'm afraid I lost interest in this new "rejuvenated" version about the second programme in the current series. Be interesting to hear what Alan T. thinks about it or to know what dear old Geoff would have said. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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