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Bob Hobden 17-06-2009 11:04 AM

Watering Lance
 
Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the job
and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they are
all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic push fit onto
chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to the job, constant
leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with heads that suddenly fly
off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head that can
be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray patterns but the
quality of construction was dreadful and it constantly needed mending/gluing
back together. Now if there was one similar but made with brass
connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic that would be ideal.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London






Muddymike 17-06-2009 11:39 AM

Watering Lance
 

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the job
and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they are
all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic push fit
onto chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to the job,
constant leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with heads that
suddenly fly off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head that can
be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray patterns but the
quality of construction was dreadful and it constantly needed
mending/gluing back together. Now if there was one similar but made with
brass connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic that would be ideal.


I got fed up with them as well, so made my own.
See
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike...uddymike.10613

Its made from old bits of pipe, a shower rose and an isolation valve removed
during renovations on the house, with the handle/connector from the last
shop bought one that fell apart glued onto the end with Araldite. I made it
two years ago and it works realy well.

Mike



Pete Stockdale 17-06-2009 11:54 AM

Watering Lance
 

"Muddymike" wrote in message
om...


I got fed up with them as well, so made my own.
See
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike...uddymike.10613

Its made from old bits of pipe, a shower rose and an isolation valve
removed during renovations on the house, with the handle/connector from
the last shop bought one that fell apart glued onto the end with Araldite.
I made it two years ago and it works realy well.


For those with more money than ingenuity try

http://www.lbsgardenwarehouse.co.uk/...Lance-PRDGL03/

These are the type we use.
All metal fittings and no structural plastic.

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com



Stan The Man 17-06-2009 05:30 PM

Watering Lance
 
On 2009-06-17 11:04:18 +0100, "Bob Hobden" said:

Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the job
and won't need constant mending.


Have you tried Hozelock's metal lance with swivelling head? I've been
using one for a year without any problems - and choice of spray
patterns is useful. They also now make a metal spray gun which I have
thrice run over with the Jag with no ill effects. Can't yet vouch for
the lance's ability to repel slow moving traffic...


Bob Hobden 17-06-2009 06:25 PM

Watering Lance
 

"Pete Stockdale" wrote

For those with more money than ingenuity try

http://www.lbsgardenwarehouse.co.uk/...Lance-PRDGL03/

These are the type we use.
All metal fittings and no structural plastic.

They look good and so does their ally lance because I could cobble up my own
head from the bits of the last bought one.
Thanks.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London




Bob Hobden 17-06-2009 06:30 PM

Watering Lance
 

"Muddymike" wrote after
"Bob Hobden" asked
Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the
job and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they are
all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic push fit
onto chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to the job,
constant leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with heads that
suddenly fly off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head that
can be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray patterns but
the quality of construction was dreadful and it constantly needed
mending/gluing back together. Now if there was one similar but made with
brass connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic that would be ideal.


I got fed up with them as well, so made my own.
See
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike...uddymike.10613

Its made from old bits of pipe, a shower rose and an isolation valve
removed during renovations on the house, with the handle/connector from
the last shop bought one that fell apart glued onto the end with Araldite.
I made it two years ago and it works realy well.

Food for thought, I'll see what can be salvaged from the Wyvales lance and
work out the possibilities.
Actually went into a Wyvales today, the one at Sunningdale, not for the GC
but the super Italian Cafe there, and the only lance they had on sale was
stripped of nearly all the parts that break. Not me I might add.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London




Bob Hobden 17-06-2009 06:34 PM

Watering Lance
 

"Stan The Man" wrote
"Bob Hobden" said:

Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the
job
and won't need constant mending.


Have you tried Hozelock's metal lance with swivelling head? I've been
using one for a year without any problems - and choice of spray patterns
is useful. They also now make a metal spray gun which I have thrice run
over with the Jag with no ill effects. Can't yet vouch for the lance's
ability to repel slow moving traffic...

I did have a Hoselock and the head was last seen flying over the top of our
greenhouse, it let go under water pressure as it was plastic and just a push
fit onto a chrome plated pipe, stupid design. Luckily that time it didn't
destroy my plants, only next doors.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London






Jonathon 17-06-2009 07:30 PM

Watering Lance
 
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:04:18 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the job
and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they are
all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic push fit onto
chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to the job, constant
leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with heads that suddenly fly
off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head that can
be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray patterns but the
quality of construction was dreadful and it constantly needed mending/gluing
back together. Now if there was one similar but made with brass
connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic that would be ideal.


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I tried to get information on Stirrup Pumps from two manufacturers
specically to be used in watering Hanging Baskets. but neither
answered my query about the hose which feeds water to the
lance from the water bucket. Neither answered! Perhaps I'd
have been better off trying a Japanes company?

But I prevaricate. The type which was the subject of your
query just aren't up to the job. I recently gave away a box full of
bits and pieces which I'd saved over the years & thrown into the back
of my shed . Hence my search for a stirrup pump.

Last time I'd used a stirrup pump was in 1942, but that's another
story.

Regards

Jon
.................................................. .............................

robert 17-06-2009 08:08 PM

Watering Lance
 
In message , Bob Hobden
writes
Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the job
and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they are
all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic push fit onto
chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to the job, constant
leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with heads that suddenly fly
off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head that can
be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray patterns but the
quality of construction was dreadful and it constantly needed mending/gluing
back together. Now if there was one similar but made with brass
connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic that would be ideal.


A length of 15mm copper tube cut to desired length with a simple lever
arm ball valve (15mm compression fittings) and connector to hose on the
end.

--
Robert

Bob Hobden 17-06-2009 11:13 PM

Watering Lance
 

"robert" wrote in answer to...
Bob Hobden
Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the job
and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they are
all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic push fit
onto
chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to the job, constant
leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with heads that suddenly fly
off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head that can
be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray patterns but the
quality of construction was dreadful and it constantly needed
mending/gluing
back together. Now if there was one similar but made with brass
connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic that would be ideal.


A length of 15mm copper tube cut to desired length with a simple lever arm
ball valve (15mm compression fittings) and connector to hose on the end.

So the thread on 15mm pipe fittings is the same as hose fittings.
In that case it should be easy to construct a robust metal lance as I too
have accumulated lots of pipe fittings and pipe over the years, even a pipe
bender.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London




Pete C[_2_] 18-06-2009 06:12 PM

Watering Lance
 


Bob Hobden wrote:
Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does
the job and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they
are all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic
push fit onto chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to
the job, constant leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with
heads that suddenly fly off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head
that can be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray
patterns but the quality of construction was dreadful and it
constantly needed mending/gluing back together. Now if there was one
similar but made with brass connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic
that would be ideal.


Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)
--
Pete C
London UK



Pete Stockdale 18-06-2009 08:51 PM

Watering Lance
 

"Pete C" wrote in message
...


Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)
--
Pete C
London UK



No !
Moving plastic parts are a nono.

Sorry
Regards
Pete
www.thecanashop.com



Bob Hobden 18-06-2009 11:01 PM

Watering Lance
 

"Pete C" wrote after Bob Hobden wrote:
Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does
the job and won't need constant mending.

I've use Hoselock, Gardenia and Wyvales own brand extendable and they
are all thrown together and come apart on a regular basis. Plastic
push fit onto chrome plated pipes, plastic nuts/connectors not up to
the job, constant leaks, etc. I've had too many plants damaged with
heads that suddenly fly off under pressure.
I liked the idea of the Wyvales own brand, extendable with a head
that can be adjusted through 180° and with any number of spray
patterns but the quality of construction was dreadful and it
constantly needed mending/gluing back together. Now if there was one
similar but made with brass connectors/nuts instead of thin plastic
that would be ideal.


Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)


Looks better in that the tube is fixed with metal nuts and presumably the
tube cannot pull out unlike the push fit of a shiny metal tube into plastic
I've had so much trouble with. If I can't get my homemade one working (when
I get some time!) I'll take a look and see.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London





Stan The Man 19-06-2009 12:36 PM

Watering Lance
 
On 2009-06-18 20:51:45 +0100, "Pete Stockdale"
said:


"Pete C" wrote in message
...


Any good?
http://www.tooled-up.com/ManProduct....78HOZ09(Wk 25)
--
Pete C
London UK



No !
Moving plastic parts are a nono.


Which parts are you referring to -- and how long ago was your
experience? I have one of these new Hozelock metal lances and the
moving parts are metal, apart from the shaft length adjustment collar.


Stan The Man 19-06-2009 12:38 PM

Watering Lance
 
On 2009-06-17 18:34:12 +0100, "Bob Hobden" said:


"Stan The Man" wrote
"Bob Hobden" said:

Anyone got a recommendation for a quality watering lance that does the
job
and won't need constant mending.


Have you tried Hozelock's metal lance with swivelling head? I've been
using one for a year without any problems - and choice of spray patterns
is useful. They also now make a metal spray gun which I have thrice run
over with the Jag with no ill effects. Can't yet vouch for the lance's
ability to repel slow moving traffic...

I did have a Hoselock and the head was last seen flying over the top of our
greenhouse, it let go under water pressure as it was plastic and just a push
fit onto a chrome plated pipe, stupid design. Luckily that time it didn't
destroy my plants, only next doors.


How long ago was this? (See my reply to Pete Stockdale).



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