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Composting cooked vegetables
My composter has arrived. It's the DEFRA subsidised one, that local
authorities have been plugging. The helpful leaflet that came with it, advises against composting cooked veg, but gives no reasons. I'm a bit surprised, any ideas on this one?TIA. Bertie .. |
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Composting cooked vegetables
Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message from "Bertie Doe" contains these words: My composter has arrived. It's the DEFRA subsidised one, that local authorities have been plugging. The helpful leaflet that came with it, advises against composting cooked veg, but gives no reasons. I'm a bit surprised, any ideas on this one?TIA. Ignore it; its based on a misguided notion that only cooked veg attract rats. Rats are just as fond of raw veg, a cosy compostheap, and the worms that will move into it later. You can also ignore the usual local council advice not to compost citrus peel, onion skin and eggshells because they don't decompose. It's nonsense. Janet We put all our fruit and veg waste into the compost bins. Most of the cooked veg leftovers get "recycled" by the dogs mixed in with their dinners. Egg shells vanish very quickly, possibly due to the compost accelerator used ;-) Orange peel can sometimes take a while to decompose, but does so anyway. The only things that I find problematic to compost are whole brassica stems, especially Brussels sprout. However, if these are coarsely chopped first using a small hand axe then they rot fairly quickly too. We also compost all cardboard waste such as cereal packets and paper based junk mail (except the glossy paper). A well mixed compost bin with accelerator (pee) and this warm Summer weather devours compost at a very fast rate. I can get away with using only one bin and it goes down faster than things are added to it. Unlike during Winter when I completely fill three bins and they compost much slower. -- David in Normandy. To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the subject line, or it will be automatically deleted by a filter and not reach my inbox. |
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"Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... My composter has arrived. It's the DEFRA subsidised one, that local authorities have been plugging. The helpful leaflet that came with it, advises against composting cooked veg, but gives no reasons. I'm a bit surprised, any ideas on this one?TIA. Bertie . I won't put cooked veg in if they have been cooked/dressed with animal based dressing, such as butter. Not that there are often any buttered, minted, new potatoes left over to even consider going into the compost bin. |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "Bertie Doe" contains these words: My composter has arrived. It's the DEFRA subsidised one, that local authorities have been plugging. The helpful leaflet that came with it, advises against composting cooked veg, but gives no reasons. I'm a bit surprised, any ideas on this one?TIA. Ignore it; its based on a misguided notion that only cooked veg attract rats. Rats are just as fond of raw veg, a cosy compostheap, and the worms that will move into it later. You can also ignore the usual local council advice not to compost citrus peel, onion skin and eggshells because they don't decompose. It's nonsense. Janet My bins are being relocated, and having discovered a family of mice in residence in one of my bins, at the new location there's going to be some weld mesh placed on the ground and the compost bins on top of that - to allow worms in but keep rodents out. |
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wafflycat wrote:
My bins are being relocated, and having discovered a family of mice in residence in one of my bins, at the new location there's going to be some weld mesh placed on the ground and the compost bins on top of that - to allow worms in but keep rodents out. I've only ever had a problem with rodents living in a compost bin once in the many years I've used them, and that was due to the compost being too dry. I think maybe you had the same problem? I always try to keep mine somewhere between moist and wet - I don't think they make a nice place for rodents to live. The compost seems to break down fastest when moist too. -- David in Normandy. To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the subject line, or it will be automatically deleted by a filter and not reach my inbox. |
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wafflycat wrote:
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "Bertie Doe" contains these words: My composter has arrived. It's the DEFRA subsidised one, that local authorities have been plugging. The helpful leaflet that came with it, advises against composting cooked veg, but gives no reasons. I'm a bit surprised, any ideas on this one?TIA. Ignore it; its based on a misguided notion that only cooked veg attract rats. Rats are just as fond of raw veg, a cosy compostheap, and the worms that will move into it later. You can also ignore the usual local council advice not to compost citrus peel, onion skin and eggshells because they don't decompose. It's nonsense. Janet My bins are being relocated, and having discovered a family of mice in residence in one of my bins, at the new location there's going to be some weld mesh placed on the ground and the compost bins on top of that - to allow worms in but keep rodents out. Be aware that mice and rats can squeeze through surprisingly small holes. -- Please reply to group,emails to designated address are never read. |
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:34:19 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:
Ignore it; its based on a misguided notion that only cooked veg attract rats. Rats are just as fond of raw veg, a cosy compostheap, and the worms that will move into it later. Agreed, but also consider adding a wormery to your armoury for cooked leftovers of all sorts. Less prone to rodents it can be kept much closer to the kitchen door. |
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message from "Bertie Doe" contains these words: My composter has arrived. It's the DEFRA subsidised one, that local authorities have been plugging. The helpful leaflet that came with it, advises against composting cooked veg, but gives no reasons. I'm a bit surprised, any ideas on this one?TIA. Ignore it; its based on a misguided notion that only cooked veg attract rats. Rats are just as fond of raw veg, a cosy compostheap, and the worms that will move into it later. You can also ignore the usual local council advice not to compost citrus peel, onion skin and eggshells because they don't decompose. It's nonsense. Janet I totally agree with you about citrus peel, but eggshells just sit there. I've pulled them out from the bottom after being in the composter for a couple of years!. No cooked veg goes in as it's all scoffed. Well, maybe the odd pea or bean pod stalk... -- Jeff |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... Be aware that mice and rats can squeeze through surprisingly small holes. Which is why I'm getting surprisingly small holed weld-mesh |
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"wafflycat" wrote in message
... "Broadback" wrote in message ... Be aware that mice and rats can squeeze through surprisingly small holes. Which is why I'm getting surprisingly small holed weld-mesh Thanks all for your obs. Incidentally if anyone is interested in taking advantage of the DEFRA subsidised compost bins http://www.recyclenow.com/compost/ offer ends soon. Here are some thoughts. I opted for the Green Johanna (page 9 of 10 above) which comes in 4 sections. Green Johanna advantages : It has a permanent base, with ventilators which can be shut - therefore mice-free. Ditto close-able ventilator near top, to shed excess moisture. Disadvantage : Plastic looks wafer thin where the 4 sections are fixed together with self-tapping screws (supplied). In 3 or 4 years I can foresee the plastic cracking. Con 330 (page 2 of 10 above) advantages : It's a solid one-piece construction. It has no base, so will allow worms to enter. Perhaps not so well ventilated as the jolly green johanna, but if the contents need to be 'revitalised' after 3 months - you can let the contents dry out etc, then fork the contents back into the compostor. Anyone read the following, with reference to 'hot heap' and 'cool heap' composting. Any thoughts. TIA. http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/orga...compost_pf.php Bertie .. |
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Jeff Layman wrote: Janet Baraclough wrote: Ignore it; its based on a misguided notion that only cooked veg attract rats. Rats are just as fond of raw veg, a cosy compostheap, and the worms that will move into it later. You can also ignore the usual local council advice not to compost citrus peel, onion skin and eggshells because they don't decompose. It's nonsense. I agree. I totally agree with you about citrus peel, but eggshells just sit there. I've pulled them out from the bottom after being in the composter for a couple of years!. Yes, they will, but chuck them on anyway! Just crumble them when you use the compost. The things that I compost that do last for ever are (sea) shells, like mussel, oyster, scallop or winkle. But I chuck them on my traditional heap anyway. Avocado stones, peach/nectarine/plum stones, the harder nut shells etc. take some years, but they can be left to do that in the soil. I sieve them out for making potting compost, but not for spreading on the garden. The point is that all of the above turn into things that are no more harmful than small stones - and eggshells are more like limestone sand. If you have acid soil, they will be useful for that. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... "wafflycat" wrote in message ... "Broadback" wrote in message ... Be aware that mice and rats can squeeze through surprisingly small holes. Which is why I'm getting surprisingly small holed weld-mesh Thanks all for your obs. Incidentally if anyone is interested in taking advantage of the DEFRA subsidised compost bins http://www.recyclenow.com/compost/ offer ends soon. It's through that site I've acquired three compost bins. Whether there is a low-cost bin depends on your local authority area. Currently my LA doesn't operate a scheme, so I'm glad I made use of past schemes. |
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David in Normandy writes
The only things that I find problematic to compost are whole brassica stems, especially Brussels sprout. However, if these are coarsely chopped first using a small hand axe then they rot fairly quickly too. It doesn't really matter if the compost still has a few partially rotted things in it when you come to use it (as long as you're not filling pots with it) - so long as they're chopped to, say, 3 inches, so that they don't make the compost difficult to dig out from the heap. If you don't chop, you get long things all tangled up and stuck under a heavy lump that you haven't yet dug out. -- Kay |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... Before you drop them in the compost bucket, don't you crunch the shells in your hand to prevent witches sailing in them? Tsk. Janet. In this household eggshells are rinsed out, baked, crushed and then fed back to the hens. |
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In message , wafflycat
writes "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... Before you drop them in the compost bucket, don't you crunch the shells in your hand to prevent witches sailing in them? Tsk. Janet. In this household eggshells are rinsed out, baked, crushed and then fed back to the hens. Ours are washed out, baked, crushed and put round seedlings. -- June Hughes |
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