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Hi everyone, I too am a newbie to the Forum and also I have a question. I hope someone can help me with. I have always had a Lawn to look after that was moderate in size, however last year I moved house to a very large garden of an acre with a large lawn. The garden has been neglected for many years and I am in the process of reclaiming it back a little from mother nature, wrestling with Bind weed and Ground elder on a large scale as well as other weeds.
My question is ; In the large lawn is Ground elder, bind weed, in places, but I also have problems with Clover, purple and white on a large scale. Money is very tight and I try to garden without the use of pesticides as much as possible except Glyposate for the ground elder. The garden backs onto the Village meadow and is surrounded by wonderful full size trees. Can anyone give me advice on what I could do to Improve the Lawn and try to erradicate some of these problems? I suppose I am a little frightened of ploughing in, incase I ruin such a large area and can't afford to replace it. Help!! |
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I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you, is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing animals.) |
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echinosum writes
Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the bindweed. Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too. I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you, is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing animals.) We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of plant pests as well as of animal ones. -- echinosum -- Kay |
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"drtj1960" wrote in message ... Hi everyone, I too am a newbie to the Forum and also I have a question. I hope someone can help me with. I have always had a Lawn to look after that was moderate in size, however last year I moved house to a very large garden of an acre with a large lawn. The garden has been neglected for many years and I am in the process of reclaiming it back a little from mother nature, wrestling with Bind weed and Ground elder on a large scale as well as other weeds. My question is ; In the large lawn is Ground elder, bind weed, in places, but I also have problems with Clover, purple and white on a large scale. Money is very tight and I try to garden without the use of pesticides as much as possible except Glyposate for the ground elder. The garden backs onto the Village meadow and is surrounded by wonderful full size trees. Can anyone give me advice on what I could do to Improve the Lawn and try to erradicate some of these problems? I suppose I am a little frightened of ploughing in, incase I ruin such a large area and can't afford to replace it. Help!! My last home had over half an acre of lawn, or over half an acre of weeds when we bought it. Apart from a little levelling here and there and adding a little grass seed to the bare patches, all I did was mow regularly. Not too low, but sometimes twice a week. By the second year most of the weeds had gone. Persistent ones were then spot treated with some liquid lawn "feed and weed". Having a 42 inch ride on mower made the mowing quick and easy so I didn't mind the twice weekly periods. I also made a heavy roller to tow behind the mower (a simple shaft through two old gas cylinders filled with concrete with an "A" frame towbar knocked up from some second-hand dexion angle) which helped a lot in the first couple of years. Just don't expect instant results. Mike |
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"K" wrote in message ... echinosum writes Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the bindweed. Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too. I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you, is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing animals.) We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of plant pests as well as of animal ones. -- Kay I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and 'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that? Spider |
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:04:16 +0100, "Spider"
wrote: I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and 'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that? The term "gastropodicide" already exists so why try to improve it? Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com |
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:04:16 +0100, "Spider"
wrote: "K" wrote in message ... echinosum writes Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the bindweed. Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too. I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you, is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing animals.) We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of plant pests as well as of animal ones. -- Kay I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and 'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that? Thrush? |
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On 2009-07-08 13:04:16 +0100, "Spider" said:
"K" wrote in message ... echinosum writes Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the bindweed. Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too. I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you, is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing animals.) We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of plant pests as well as of animal ones. -- Kay I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and 'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that? Spider Boot. ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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In message , Spider
writes "K" wrote in message ... echinosum writes Ground elder in a lawn is adequately controlled by regular mowing. It's only a problem in flower beds, etc. Save the glyphosate for the bindweed. Regular (weekly) mowing should get rid of the bindweed too. I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. There are many other things that are far worse. After all it is delivering nitrogen for you, is a nice green colour, and with regular mowing it should be kept dwarfed and in control. If you really want a totally weed-free lawn you have to regularly apply lawn weedkillers. (Pesticides are for killing animals.) We had this argument a couple of years ago. Despite my belief, and all logic, I think the conclusion was that 'pesticides' include killers of plant pests as well as of animal ones. -- Kay I agree. 'Pesticide' is a cover-all term. 'Insecticide', 'herbicide' and 'fungicide' are the individuals terms that are covered. A snail, of course, isn't any of those, so I suppose one would have to have a gastropodicide. Sounds very clumsy. Can anyone improve on that? Molluscicide is the normal usage (200:1 over gastropodicide according to Google, but I'm not convinced that Google hit counts are reliable any more) Spider -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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In article , echinosum
writes I don't consider clover a problem in a lawn. Have to disagree here echinsoum as clover in my lawn makes it quite slippery when wet or damp. You can get rid of some of it by raking it so that it stands up just before you mow the grass. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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